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randr

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88. I have opposed the death penalty my whole life

Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:13 PM

Feb 2018

The carnage I have witnessed the last few decades has me wanting to level the field.
I think gun owners should be buried with their arsenals when they die so that, just like their hero Charlton Heston stated, the can keep their cold dead hands wrapped around their guns. So long losers, so long guns.
I just need to rant.

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Here's my ideas on gun control [View all] SHRED Feb 2018 OP

Caught with an unregistered firearm Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #1

👍 SHRED Feb 2018 #2

Changed it SHRED Feb 2018 #3

Like the brain storming here...but could I suggest a longer sentence mentalslavery Feb 2018 #30

A "lives matter" tax C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #4

Good idea SHRED Feb 2018 #5

Gun violence is expensive... mentalslavery Feb 2018 #36

K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #6

Excellent. I would have been delighted to face these requirements when I bought my gun. Mister Ed Feb 2018 #7

They also encourage me (not a gun owner) to support gun owners mentalslavery Feb 2018 #31

I can only speak for myself. Mister Ed Feb 2018 #45

Never thought to buy a gun while I was living in rough neighborhoods. hunter Feb 2018 #85

I offer you neither explanation nor apology. Mister Ed Feb 2018 #89

What's with this obsession around here with insurance in the context of gun control? WillowTree Feb 2018 #8

Call it what you want SHRED Feb 2018 #9

No form of insurance covers illegal acts of the insured. WillowTree Feb 2018 #10

You sound pretty cut and dried on this SHRED Feb 2018 #12

Not 'passionate' really. I just understand how insurance works. WillowTree Feb 2018 #17

Thank you...back at ya SHRED Feb 2018 #20

if you own a deadly weapon Skittles Feb 2018 #16

Insurance is available for accidents. Not for "on purpose". If on purpose, you're on your own. WillowTree Feb 2018 #18

so you accidentally kill another wannbe hero Skittles Feb 2018 #21

The issues is insurance in case someone is harmed by a gun...no different than the medical mentalslavery Feb 2018 #32

If you mow down pedestrians on purpose, your insurance will not pay. X_Digger Feb 2018 #46

Exactly. Like auto insurance. WillowTree Feb 2018 #47

How about requiring 2 references vouching that you're safe with a gun, like in Canada? SunSeeker Feb 2018 #11

It's amazing how so many nations do so many things better than the U.S.A. hunter Feb 2018 #14

US gun manufacturers want to keep selling 1.5M assault weapons each year. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #15

They're selling most of these to people who already have a shit load of guns. hunter Feb 2018 #26

Good point. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #56

Yes I would SHRED Feb 2018 #19

And that those vouching agree to penalties if said person mentalslavery Feb 2018 #35

Michael Moore mentioned this on Bill Maher several months ago BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #41

I love Canada! Thank you for bringing Cha Feb 2018 #43

Canada. Straw Man Feb 2018 #60

NC used to do that as a Jim Crow law in some counties Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #48

Your point? This is not Jim Crow. Gun control is not slavery. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #55

Who vouches that the references are adequate? hack89 Feb 2018 #59

The trained staff reviewing these applications. It works well in Canada. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #61

Which would be law enforcement? Political appointees? hack89 Feb 2018 #62

These would be civil servants, like in Canada, following set standards. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #69

Those same "civil servants" that in many states routinely suppress minority voters? hack89 Feb 2018 #72

If you cared about minority rights, you would support gun control. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #77

That's pure idiocy..."If you cared about minority rights, you would support gun control." AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #81

So a persons ability to exercise a right comes down to some unaccountable peoples arbitrary choice? Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #66

It is not an "arbitrary" choice. This process has rules and standards. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #68

So now you're concerned that 2 references are not enough? SunSeeker Feb 2018 #70

No. I am worried that system would be biased hack89 Feb 2018 #71

A system of clear standards is not biased. We have anti-discrimination laws. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #79

Is that why voter suppression never happens in America? Nt hack89 Feb 2018 #82

No. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #87

Doubling the sentence of any crime committed hydrolastic Feb 2018 #13

Good idea.. at least. Cha Feb 2018 #44

Thats an idea you will get even gun people behind- and its proven to work to reduce gun crime. Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #49

Give all assault weapons back to the military thecrow Feb 2018 #22

Brilliant idea SHRED Feb 2018 #23

No military in the world uses these weapons. SeattleVet Feb 2018 #24

I'm sure the military could find a use for them, nonetheless thecrow Feb 2018 #28

thats not true...and the modifications (think bump stock) forward grips...etc. mentalslavery Feb 2018 #33

I highly doubt bump stocks sammythecat Feb 2018 #73

Military doesn't use these rifles AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #76

Gun Owners should be licensed Wolf Frankula Feb 2018 #25

Ok...should voters be? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #78

Aren't voters already? Wolf Frankula Feb 2018 #83

Where? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #84

Here's mine: Everyone gets a chance NCDem777 Feb 2018 #27

No...we already have the whole "lets assume everyone is all good" situation mentalslavery Feb 2018 #34

Because facts and statistics say otherwise Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #50

nope...this is not about statistics...it is about emotion mentalslavery Feb 2018 #57

You are almost there Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #65

I'll add another point syringis Feb 2018 #29

Mine. Glamrock Feb 2018 #37

👍 SHRED Feb 2018 #38

Not bad for half in the bag... Glamrock Feb 2018 #40

All good suggestions thecrow Feb 2018 #91

Thanks! Glamrock Feb 2018 #92

When the war this would cause was over... k2qb3 Feb 2018 #39

We need a "d.m.v." for everything gun related askyagerz Feb 2018 #42

You wont be able to charge gun owners for this so how do you fund it? Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #51

Bullet taxes. License fees. askyagerz Feb 2018 #58

My rule of thumb is that if civilian police can have it then civilians can have it. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #52

I also think anyone who purchases large amounts of amo should be reported to authorities. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #53

What is a large amount? hack89 Feb 2018 #90

all good... handmade34 Feb 2018 #54

The Evan video makes my heart hurt. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #63

yes... handmade34 Feb 2018 #67

Ammunition purchase license, registration, background checks, and ID. moriah Feb 2018 #64

Why not make a real difference? The only way to drastically reduce the numbers of gun violence jmg257 Feb 2018 #74

So my 1866 Henry (15round tubuler magazine) and 1892 Winchester (13rd Tube mag) oneshooter Feb 2018 #75

If a child finds a weapon in a house and kills themselves or others randr Feb 2018 #80

Wow. Straw Man Feb 2018 #86

I have opposed the death penalty my whole life randr Feb 2018 #88

So you want death for negligence ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #93