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Straw Man

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93. So you want death for negligence ...

Reply to randr (Reply #88)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 03:14 AM

Feb 2018

... but not for deliberate murder? Pretty big cognitive dissonance there.

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Here's my ideas on gun control [View all] SHRED Feb 2018 OP

Caught with an unregistered firearm Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #1

👍 SHRED Feb 2018 #2

Changed it SHRED Feb 2018 #3

Like the brain storming here...but could I suggest a longer sentence mentalslavery Feb 2018 #30

A "lives matter" tax C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #4

Good idea SHRED Feb 2018 #5

Gun violence is expensive... mentalslavery Feb 2018 #36

K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #6

Excellent. I would have been delighted to face these requirements when I bought my gun. Mister Ed Feb 2018 #7

They also encourage me (not a gun owner) to support gun owners mentalslavery Feb 2018 #31

I can only speak for myself. Mister Ed Feb 2018 #45

Never thought to buy a gun while I was living in rough neighborhoods. hunter Feb 2018 #85

I offer you neither explanation nor apology. Mister Ed Feb 2018 #89

What's with this obsession around here with insurance in the context of gun control? WillowTree Feb 2018 #8

Call it what you want SHRED Feb 2018 #9

No form of insurance covers illegal acts of the insured. WillowTree Feb 2018 #10

You sound pretty cut and dried on this SHRED Feb 2018 #12

Not 'passionate' really. I just understand how insurance works. WillowTree Feb 2018 #17

Thank you...back at ya SHRED Feb 2018 #20

if you own a deadly weapon Skittles Feb 2018 #16

Insurance is available for accidents. Not for "on purpose". If on purpose, you're on your own. WillowTree Feb 2018 #18

so you accidentally kill another wannbe hero Skittles Feb 2018 #21

The issues is insurance in case someone is harmed by a gun...no different than the medical mentalslavery Feb 2018 #32

If you mow down pedestrians on purpose, your insurance will not pay. X_Digger Feb 2018 #46

Exactly. Like auto insurance. WillowTree Feb 2018 #47

How about requiring 2 references vouching that you're safe with a gun, like in Canada? SunSeeker Feb 2018 #11

It's amazing how so many nations do so many things better than the U.S.A. hunter Feb 2018 #14

US gun manufacturers want to keep selling 1.5M assault weapons each year. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #15

They're selling most of these to people who already have a shit load of guns. hunter Feb 2018 #26

Good point. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #56

Yes I would SHRED Feb 2018 #19

And that those vouching agree to penalties if said person mentalslavery Feb 2018 #35

Michael Moore mentioned this on Bill Maher several months ago BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #41

I love Canada! Thank you for bringing Cha Feb 2018 #43

Canada. Straw Man Feb 2018 #60

NC used to do that as a Jim Crow law in some counties Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #48

Your point? This is not Jim Crow. Gun control is not slavery. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #55

Who vouches that the references are adequate? hack89 Feb 2018 #59

The trained staff reviewing these applications. It works well in Canada. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #61

Which would be law enforcement? Political appointees? hack89 Feb 2018 #62

These would be civil servants, like in Canada, following set standards. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #69

Those same "civil servants" that in many states routinely suppress minority voters? hack89 Feb 2018 #72

If you cared about minority rights, you would support gun control. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #77

That's pure idiocy..."If you cared about minority rights, you would support gun control." AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #81

So a persons ability to exercise a right comes down to some unaccountable peoples arbitrary choice? Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #66

It is not an "arbitrary" choice. This process has rules and standards. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #68

So now you're concerned that 2 references are not enough? SunSeeker Feb 2018 #70

No. I am worried that system would be biased hack89 Feb 2018 #71

A system of clear standards is not biased. We have anti-discrimination laws. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #79

Is that why voter suppression never happens in America? Nt hack89 Feb 2018 #82

No. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #87

Doubling the sentence of any crime committed hydrolastic Feb 2018 #13

Good idea.. at least. Cha Feb 2018 #44

Thats an idea you will get even gun people behind- and its proven to work to reduce gun crime. Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #49

Give all assault weapons back to the military thecrow Feb 2018 #22

Brilliant idea SHRED Feb 2018 #23

No military in the world uses these weapons. SeattleVet Feb 2018 #24

I'm sure the military could find a use for them, nonetheless thecrow Feb 2018 #28

thats not true...and the modifications (think bump stock) forward grips...etc. mentalslavery Feb 2018 #33

I highly doubt bump stocks sammythecat Feb 2018 #73

Military doesn't use these rifles AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #76

Gun Owners should be licensed Wolf Frankula Feb 2018 #25

Ok...should voters be? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #78

Aren't voters already? Wolf Frankula Feb 2018 #83

Where? AncientGeezer Feb 2018 #84

Here's mine: Everyone gets a chance NCDem777 Feb 2018 #27

No...we already have the whole "lets assume everyone is all good" situation mentalslavery Feb 2018 #34

Because facts and statistics say otherwise Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #50

nope...this is not about statistics...it is about emotion mentalslavery Feb 2018 #57

You are almost there Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #65

I'll add another point syringis Feb 2018 #29

Mine. Glamrock Feb 2018 #37

👍 SHRED Feb 2018 #38

Not bad for half in the bag... Glamrock Feb 2018 #40

All good suggestions thecrow Feb 2018 #91

Thanks! Glamrock Feb 2018 #92

When the war this would cause was over... k2qb3 Feb 2018 #39

We need a "d.m.v." for everything gun related askyagerz Feb 2018 #42

You wont be able to charge gun owners for this so how do you fund it? Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #51

Bullet taxes. License fees. askyagerz Feb 2018 #58

My rule of thumb is that if civilian police can have it then civilians can have it. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #52

I also think anyone who purchases large amounts of amo should be reported to authorities. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #53

What is a large amount? hack89 Feb 2018 #90

all good... handmade34 Feb 2018 #54

The Evan video makes my heart hurt. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #63

yes... handmade34 Feb 2018 #67

Ammunition purchase license, registration, background checks, and ID. moriah Feb 2018 #64

Why not make a real difference? The only way to drastically reduce the numbers of gun violence jmg257 Feb 2018 #74

So my 1866 Henry (15round tubuler magazine) and 1892 Winchester (13rd Tube mag) oneshooter Feb 2018 #75

If a child finds a weapon in a house and kills themselves or others randr Feb 2018 #80

Wow. Straw Man Feb 2018 #86

I have opposed the death penalty my whole life randr Feb 2018 #88

So you want death for negligence ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #93