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98. Hindsight says attacking Democrats & The Democratic Party

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Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:23 AM

Feb 2018

Doesn't help enact a liberal/progressive agenda.

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Feb 20: Bernie Sanders says his 2016 team saw effects of Russian anti-Clinton campaign [View all] ehrnst Feb 2018 OP

He was a false leader..... FarPoint Feb 2018 #1

After bashing her incessantly, he gave her almost no support in the General. Blue_true Feb 2018 #13

He stumped for her all over the country in the fall. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #18

He did FOUR events, spread out over two months. Blue_true Feb 2018 #20

Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #23

not really hfojvt Feb 2018 #87

You compare Hillary's 2008 concession and candidate support with Bernie's 2016? KitSileya Feb 2018 #103

Hindsight says attacking Democrats & The Democratic Party TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #98

In 2016 that might have been hindsight. At this stage it should be bonafide 'foresight'. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #167

What is the purpose of hindsight if it doesn't educate you to succeed in the future? TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #179

You're preaching to the choir Dog. There is nothing Russia can do to change who I'm voting for. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #183

Yet how many on the Left still think Hillary is corrupt & unlikable? TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #185

2016 was an unusual year that's for certain. While people here may have very strong opinions, it is politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #187

You're closing your eyes to the criticism of Clinton from the left. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #190

So, you think she was worse than Trump? TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #192

What an absurd non sequitur. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #194

Do you have a link for that charge of "FOUR events"? Jim Lane Feb 2018 #73

Someone posted last year. Blue_true Feb 2018 #86

This mysterious "Someone" was totally wrong and your subject line in #20 is false Jim Lane Feb 2018 #90

He did one joint event and three singles. Blue_true Feb 2018 #113

I gave you multiple links to sources refuting that lie. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #116

I saw what happened with my own eyes. I don't need your filtered "facts". nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #117

ROTFLMAO. A classic, a true classic. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #124

I won't spend anymore time on you. It is a waste for me. nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #125

Here is a complete list of Sanders' appearances lapucelle Feb 2018 #160

That list doesn't prove that those events were in support of Clinton. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #173

The 2016 Democratic National Convention closed on July 28. His first appearance... George II Feb 2018 #161

I wonder what he was waiting for. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #165

hmmmm. Perhaps to change his party affiliation back to independent, and disassociate himself with still_one Feb 2018 #199

A week before the Convention, maybe even earlier, he'd already registered his re-election.... George II Feb 2018 #200

no surprise still_one Feb 2018 #213

He couldn't change his affiliation "back" because he never changed it. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #216

From a story datelined Sept. 30 from one of your links: lapucelle Feb 2018 #157

From The Hill three days later... lapucelle Feb 2018 #158

You can see a complete list of what was planned lapucelle Feb 2018 #159

"All over the country"? He never made it further west than Minnesota. George II Feb 2018 #162

Press release, October 31, 2016 lapucelle Feb 2018 #166

Never made it to Nebraska, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, or California. George II Feb 2018 #169

Looks like he did make it to NC to rally with Clinton a few days before the election. That's it. George II Feb 2018 #171

Yes he did. lapucelle Feb 2018 #181

Wow.. so What, sanders only did 9 events? Cha Feb 2018 #201

In the 100 days after the Democratic convention, lapucelle Feb 2018 #204

Whoa.. could he spare the time? Cha Feb 2018 #206

Seven of the events were in Iowa and New Hampshire. lapucelle Feb 2018 #207

Hmmm Cha Feb 2018 #210

There you go writing the truth again!!!!! Omaha Steve Feb 2018 #175

"more than a dozen appearances just in the final week." That's what he said, not what he did.... George II Feb 2018 #177

Do you agree with the assertion that he did only four events? Jim Lane Feb 2018 #189

I didn't say that, but we all know that he didn't do more than a dozen in the final week either..... George II Feb 2018 #196

True, you didn't say it. You also didn't call out a lie that served your agenda. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #205

I'm not the DU cop around here, but I DID "call out" the comment you made about him.... George II Feb 2018 #208

Let's look at the context here Jim Lane Feb 2018 #215

The reality is that he did a grand total of 18 events lapucelle Feb 2018 #212

Thank you very much for posting this information. betsuni Feb 2018 #214

I know his first reaction after the convention was to take weeks off working on his book. bettyellen Feb 2018 #176

I saw something different. ehrnst Feb 2018 #21

Whatever channel you were watching, you were always looking for some reason Ken Burch Feb 2018 #25

Seriously?? Quit making this another victimhood manifesto. R B Garr Feb 2018 #36

Hillary was screwed over by numerous factors Ken Burch Feb 2018 #53

The Russians helped two campaigns. One of them was R B Garr Feb 2018 #58

If it's not refighting to keep saying he shold have left earlier, Ken Burch Feb 2018 #72

That is an excuse and not what his wife admitted to. R B Garr Feb 2018 #74

Is your avatar Linda Sarsour? nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #65

I dont know, but it WAS used as a Russian troll pic, and it is from Berlin, not in the USA Exotica Feb 2018 #84

That's very interesting. Thanks very much for the info. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #120

Now that I see the larger picture, that's not the way Muslim women arrange their scarves Hekate Feb 2018 #141

Buying straw men by the case now, are you? ehrnst Feb 2018 #91

We're going to need a bigger haystack. betsuni Feb 2018 #92

I guess several of us are all really the just one big meanie from Ken's perspective. ehrnst Feb 2018 #93

Indeed! betsuni Feb 2018 #94

I don't resent you...I just wish people here would stop treating me as the enemy Ken Burch Feb 2018 #108

And the straw man body count increases.... ehrnst Feb 2018 #109

OK...why don't you put me on ignore, then? Ken Burch Feb 2018 #111

You asked: "And what would it take to get you to stop?" ehrnst Feb 2018 #112

But you don't actually say what you disagree about, mostly. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #114

More straw men.... you just keep on coming back with more ehrnst Feb 2018 #115

I don't require people to agree with me at all. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #118

If you left the straw men at home, your stated intent would be way more apparent. ehrnst Feb 2018 #123

He took July off after the convention, and the entire month of August, and almost all of September. pnwmom Feb 2018 #37

that is simply not true. EVERYONE remembers how he held out on his endorsement BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #43

What matters is he endorsed her before the convention. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Exotica Feb 2018 #85

He clearly preferred her to T___p Ken Burch Feb 2018 #88

I just hope we all stop refighting 2016 and concentrate on 2018 Exotica Feb 2018 #96

That's what I've been saying since over and over. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #107

Wait, the problem is 2018 and 2020 will be HEAVILY influenced by the man you are all Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #128

I have confidence that the best Democrats will win the primaries, regardless Exotica Feb 2018 #133

WTF?! How do you explain KPN Feb 2018 #129

I see no inconsistency Exotica Feb 2018 #134

Hilarious. KPN Feb 2018 #137

I was not the one who started the-refight the-primaries posting Exotica Feb 2018 #139

Baloney. Post 85 says it all. KPN Feb 2018 #147

you have your opinion, I have mine Exotica Feb 2018 #149

Oh brother! Nonsense! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #121

+1000. nt R B Garr Feb 2018 #135

Bullshit. KitSileya Feb 2018 #105

Thanks for your post. I predict that poster won't reply to you... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #122

Ken, what matters is he did NOT call out the Russians, trolls, bots, etc once he KNEW ... Hekate Feb 2018 #142

I wonder if he takes seriously the fact that if he runs against Trump for president betsuni Feb 2018 #145

Learning moment. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #68

That was AFTER he spear-headed a revolt at HER nominating conventions.... Kahuna7 Feb 2018 #104

See Posts #160 and #162. George II Feb 2018 #163

That's the actual definition of true progressive ehrnst Feb 2018 #19

+1 pandr32 Feb 2018 #178

Oh! Is that what he meant by 'why didn't she do anything?' leftstreet Feb 2018 #2

You might want to listen to the interview with VPR. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #5

She would not go negative on Sanders. ehrnst Feb 2018 #6

Exactly Me. Feb 2018 #3

Yeah, because it couldn't POSSIBLY be RandomAccess Feb 2018 #24

NO...And Especially As He Has The Advantage Of HIndsight Me. Feb 2018 #30

HIS people didn't steal her data either RandomAccess Feb 2018 #40

THey Broke Into Her Files Without Permission Me. Feb 2018 #44

Nope, they did not USE or even STORE her data RandomAccess Feb 2018 #46

So They Fired Their Tech For Doing NOthing? Me. Feb 2018 #48

Of course we're not going to agree on this RandomAccess Feb 2018 #50

Now That's An Unbelievable Stretch Me. Feb 2018 #51

Not to someone (like me) who was very closely following RandomAccess Feb 2018 #52

Now See...I Didn't Make My Comments To You Personal Me. Feb 2018 #54

Well, whatever RandomAccess Feb 2018 #56

Thank You Me. Feb 2018 #61

That is lulz. Uretsky got fired because it was Clinton trying R B Garr Feb 2018 #66

What the ever loving Hekate Feb 2018 #143

They created other user names for no reason. And just like R B Garr Feb 2018 #57

Bogus lawsuit? You've GOT to be kidding. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #59

Lawsuit was tossed out. Of course your database access will be restricted R B Garr Feb 2018 #63

I don't remember it being tossed out -- but I do remember that RandomAccess Feb 2018 #77

Some of the most revisionist history I have read on DU. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #70

Which time frames are those? ehrnst Feb 2018 #33

Well, it's like this RandomAccess Feb 2018 #42

I'm just going on what Bernie said in interviews yesterday and today. ehrnst Feb 2018 #49

I don't have a problem with him not knowing all at the time... dawg day Feb 2018 #62

Nixon v. Muskie comes to mind dawg day Feb 2018 #64

You're absolutely right RandomAccess Feb 2018 #76

Actually, no. ehrnst Feb 2018 #95

That doesn't change anything RandomAccess Feb 2018 #99

Weaver is denying Mueller's assertion that Russian Bots backed Bernie at all: ehrnst Feb 2018 #100

Not at all. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #101

I updated the post. But if you aren't interested in the information, I understand. ehrnst Feb 2018 #102

Good RandomAccess Feb 2018 #119

The hits keep on comin'.nt LexVegas Feb 2018 #4

That sanctions vote, tho. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #7

Cleary not hits against Sander or his campaign. They brought the matter to the CentralMass Feb 2018 #8

But Sanders said today that he "did not know that Russian Bots were promoting his campaign" ehrnst Feb 2018 #14

As the article I posted states after he lost the primary, ohn Mattes, who the used Sanders FB acct. CentralMass Feb 2018 #26

I did read the full article. ehrnst Feb 2018 #28

That doesn't explain why Bernie made the comment about Hillary. She HAD been speaking up pnwmom Feb 2018 #39

Clearly just talking about something, and not actually accomplishing anything ehrnst Feb 2018 #55

Yeah, 'cause it's not as if that isn't a pretty good summary of his career. NT KitSileya Feb 2018 #106

This sounds like it is one man who told the Clinton campaign.... dawg day Feb 2018 #67

Sep 2016... SidDithers Feb 2018 #9

Bernie is a patriot, unlike Trump. He is not going to pretend something did not happen MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #10

And he is going to make sure he blames the right people...like Hillary!! LexVegas Feb 2018 #12

LOL!! peggysue2 Feb 2018 #35

However, he denies knowing that it was going on. ehrnst Feb 2018 #15

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #11

The russians were helping trump and BS Cha Feb 2018 #16

Here in 2018 he's saying he knew what was going on in 2016, yet did nothing about it in 2016? George II Feb 2018 #17

Yes, it's quite confusing. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #22

They reported it to the Clinton campaign and Obama administration in September of 2016. CentralMass Feb 2018 #29

Who is "they?" ehrnst Feb 2018 #31

"They" didn't. Mattes did. But why didn't Bernie GO PUBLIC and tell his supporters pnwmom Feb 2018 #41

Bernie didn't want to acknowledge that the Russians were promoting his campaign. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Feb 2018 #80

Why not? yardwork Feb 2018 #83

Actually, the article says Mattes (the local guy) dawg day Feb 2018 #69

Ok. This article paints a different picture. I'll wait until the dust settles CentralMass Feb 2018 #75

Mueller hasn't issued a report ONLY indictments underthematrix Feb 2018 #27

Bernie is deflecting, as always. nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #127

K&R betsuni Feb 2018 #32

And he did next to nothing to stop it. :/ NT Adrahil Feb 2018 #34

Inconvenient truths peggysue2 Feb 2018 #38

+ 1000 Me. Feb 2018 #45

+1, starting to think this too ... especially sense we've not seen Sanders long form tax uponit7771 Feb 2018 #82

Ironic, no? peggysue2 Feb 2018 #89

Just 2014. And just the summary. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #110

Bernie never owned up to issues in his campaign in 2016. Blue_true Feb 2018 #126

We are all susceptible to having our... yallerdawg Feb 2018 #47

Here is the key quickesst Feb 2018 #78

He saw Russian interference in September... yet he said nothing. tinrobot Feb 2018 #79

I never heard anything either. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #97

Absolute silence from the man with the stentorian voice. Crickets. HIS "Revolution" or nothing. Hekate Feb 2018 #146

This is a terrible thing that happened to our democracy. yardwork Feb 2018 #81

+1000! KPN Feb 2018 #130

The fool's gambit is pretty clear here. ehrnst Feb 2018 #144

Let's make enemies. KPN Feb 2018 #131

With who? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #132

How about by who. KPN Feb 2018 #136

?? ehrnst Feb 2018 #138

Do be specific, KPN Hekate Feb 2018 #140

This thread as one of endless examples KPN Feb 2018 #148

Trust? Team building? So if people criticize Bernie, which he seems to be deserving lately Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #152

Not me, perhaps -- or more like, probably -- others. KPN Feb 2018 #153

So you think those others won't learn from Hortensis Feb 2018 #155

I don't know the answer to that. I do know that a vast number of potentially KPN Feb 2018 #168

You need to understand the liberal progressive ideals Hortensis Feb 2018 #193

How many threads discussed the revelations last month about the 2008 campaign? ehrnst Feb 2018 #164

I vaguely recall those, but didn't pay much attention. KPN Feb 2018 #170

You mean threads that share quotes from Bernie ehrnst Feb 2018 #180

You make assumptions that I don't agree with regarding Bern. So there's probably no reason KPN Feb 2018 #184

If one is very upset about such examples ehrnst Feb 2018 #156

Correction: some other people don't see it as divisive. KPN Feb 2018 #172

You mean "by whom"? George II Feb 2018 #150

OK. KPN Feb 2018 #154

Well, yes, he thought he could win because of it. liberal N proud Feb 2018 #151

One of the main attacks on Hillary from Russia was her emails. Sanders wanted nothing to do with Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #174

Trump has the same defense. Billions in ads and tweets didnt matter? bettyellen Feb 2018 #182

Editing after seeing the following line in the OP Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #188

People organizing FB groups had proof and tried to share it- but screwed up. bettyellen Feb 2018 #195

According to the OP she already had the nomination before his campaign discovered Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #197

Thats the thing-the BOBers were worse after he was eliminated and horrible during the DNC itself. bettyellen Feb 2018 #198

Well said, bettyellen.. Thank you! Cha Feb 2018 #202

Youre welcome- as always, Cha! 👊 bettyellen Feb 2018 #209

P.S. Hillary Worked Hard for Obama Cha Feb 2018 #203

The effects that his campaign saw first hand was on Facebook, not the emails. George II Feb 2018 #186

That's why Sanders aid warned Hillary as to what was going on there as noted in the OP Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #191

The man who warned the PAC (not Hillarys campaign) was NOT a staffer at all... which is why bettyellen Feb 2018 #211