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Jim Lane

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116. I gave you multiple links to sources refuting that lie.

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 04:44 PM

Feb 2018

You want to just keep on lying (without any evidence) because it supports your agenda of maligning Bernie.

You claim that you somehow saw with your own eyes that he did only four events. You were personally present at all the many locations around the country where professional journalists saw and reported that Bernie was doing events, and thus you know that all those reports were lies? My, you must have racked up a lot of frequent-flyer miles last fall. And with all this concern about Russian bots, why has no one except you noticed that there was a vast conspiracy to lie to the American public about Bernie's campaign activities? And why has no one come forward to refute the reports of these multiple phantom rallies that never actually occurred?

Sorry, but I'm going to go with the obvious explanation. The reports of Bernie doing many more than four rallies are truthful. Your assertion to the contrary is false.

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Feb 20: Bernie Sanders says his 2016 team saw effects of Russian anti-Clinton campaign [View all] ehrnst Feb 2018 OP

He was a false leader..... FarPoint Feb 2018 #1

After bashing her incessantly, he gave her almost no support in the General. Blue_true Feb 2018 #13

He stumped for her all over the country in the fall. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #18

He did FOUR events, spread out over two months. Blue_true Feb 2018 #20

Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #23

not really hfojvt Feb 2018 #87

You compare Hillary's 2008 concession and candidate support with Bernie's 2016? KitSileya Feb 2018 #103

Hindsight says attacking Democrats & The Democratic Party TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #98

In 2016 that might have been hindsight. At this stage it should be bonafide 'foresight'. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #167

What is the purpose of hindsight if it doesn't educate you to succeed in the future? TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #179

You're preaching to the choir Dog. There is nothing Russia can do to change who I'm voting for. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #183

Yet how many on the Left still think Hillary is corrupt & unlikable? TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #185

2016 was an unusual year that's for certain. While people here may have very strong opinions, it is politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #187

You're closing your eyes to the criticism of Clinton from the left. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #190

So, you think she was worse than Trump? TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #192

What an absurd non sequitur. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #194

Do you have a link for that charge of "FOUR events"? Jim Lane Feb 2018 #73

Someone posted last year. Blue_true Feb 2018 #86

This mysterious "Someone" was totally wrong and your subject line in #20 is false Jim Lane Feb 2018 #90

He did one joint event and three singles. Blue_true Feb 2018 #113

I gave you multiple links to sources refuting that lie. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #116

I saw what happened with my own eyes. I don't need your filtered "facts". nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #117

ROTFLMAO. A classic, a true classic. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #124

I won't spend anymore time on you. It is a waste for me. nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #125

Here is a complete list of Sanders' appearances lapucelle Feb 2018 #160

That list doesn't prove that those events were in support of Clinton. politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #173

The 2016 Democratic National Convention closed on July 28. His first appearance... George II Feb 2018 #161

I wonder what he was waiting for. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #165

hmmmm. Perhaps to change his party affiliation back to independent, and disassociate himself with still_one Feb 2018 #199

A week before the Convention, maybe even earlier, he'd already registered his re-election.... George II Feb 2018 #200

no surprise still_one Feb 2018 #213

He couldn't change his affiliation "back" because he never changed it. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #216

From a story datelined Sept. 30 from one of your links: lapucelle Feb 2018 #157

From The Hill three days later... lapucelle Feb 2018 #158

You can see a complete list of what was planned lapucelle Feb 2018 #159

"All over the country"? He never made it further west than Minnesota. George II Feb 2018 #162

Press release, October 31, 2016 lapucelle Feb 2018 #166

Never made it to Nebraska, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, or California. George II Feb 2018 #169

Looks like he did make it to NC to rally with Clinton a few days before the election. That's it. George II Feb 2018 #171

Yes he did. lapucelle Feb 2018 #181

Wow.. so What, sanders only did 9 events? Cha Feb 2018 #201

In the 100 days after the Democratic convention, lapucelle Feb 2018 #204

Whoa.. could he spare the time? Cha Feb 2018 #206

Seven of the events were in Iowa and New Hampshire. lapucelle Feb 2018 #207

Hmmm Cha Feb 2018 #210

There you go writing the truth again!!!!! Omaha Steve Feb 2018 #175

"more than a dozen appearances just in the final week." That's what he said, not what he did.... George II Feb 2018 #177

Do you agree with the assertion that he did only four events? Jim Lane Feb 2018 #189

I didn't say that, but we all know that he didn't do more than a dozen in the final week either..... George II Feb 2018 #196

True, you didn't say it. You also didn't call out a lie that served your agenda. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #205

I'm not the DU cop around here, but I DID "call out" the comment you made about him.... George II Feb 2018 #208

Let's look at the context here Jim Lane Feb 2018 #215

The reality is that he did a grand total of 18 events lapucelle Feb 2018 #212

Thank you very much for posting this information. betsuni Feb 2018 #214

I know his first reaction after the convention was to take weeks off working on his book. bettyellen Feb 2018 #176

I saw something different. ehrnst Feb 2018 #21

Whatever channel you were watching, you were always looking for some reason Ken Burch Feb 2018 #25

Seriously?? Quit making this another victimhood manifesto. R B Garr Feb 2018 #36

Hillary was screwed over by numerous factors Ken Burch Feb 2018 #53

The Russians helped two campaigns. One of them was R B Garr Feb 2018 #58

If it's not refighting to keep saying he shold have left earlier, Ken Burch Feb 2018 #72

That is an excuse and not what his wife admitted to. R B Garr Feb 2018 #74

Is your avatar Linda Sarsour? nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #65

I dont know, but it WAS used as a Russian troll pic, and it is from Berlin, not in the USA Exotica Feb 2018 #84

That's very interesting. Thanks very much for the info. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #120

Now that I see the larger picture, that's not the way Muslim women arrange their scarves Hekate Feb 2018 #141

Buying straw men by the case now, are you? ehrnst Feb 2018 #91

We're going to need a bigger haystack. betsuni Feb 2018 #92

I guess several of us are all really the just one big meanie from Ken's perspective. ehrnst Feb 2018 #93

Indeed! betsuni Feb 2018 #94

I don't resent you...I just wish people here would stop treating me as the enemy Ken Burch Feb 2018 #108

And the straw man body count increases.... ehrnst Feb 2018 #109

OK...why don't you put me on ignore, then? Ken Burch Feb 2018 #111

You asked: "And what would it take to get you to stop?" ehrnst Feb 2018 #112

But you don't actually say what you disagree about, mostly. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #114

More straw men.... you just keep on coming back with more ehrnst Feb 2018 #115

I don't require people to agree with me at all. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #118

If you left the straw men at home, your stated intent would be way more apparent. ehrnst Feb 2018 #123

He took July off after the convention, and the entire month of August, and almost all of September. pnwmom Feb 2018 #37

that is simply not true. EVERYONE remembers how he held out on his endorsement BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #43

What matters is he endorsed her before the convention. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Exotica Feb 2018 #85

He clearly preferred her to T___p Ken Burch Feb 2018 #88

I just hope we all stop refighting 2016 and concentrate on 2018 Exotica Feb 2018 #96

That's what I've been saying since over and over. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #107

Wait, the problem is 2018 and 2020 will be HEAVILY influenced by the man you are all Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #128

I have confidence that the best Democrats will win the primaries, regardless Exotica Feb 2018 #133

WTF?! How do you explain KPN Feb 2018 #129

I see no inconsistency Exotica Feb 2018 #134

Hilarious. KPN Feb 2018 #137

I was not the one who started the-refight the-primaries posting Exotica Feb 2018 #139

Baloney. Post 85 says it all. KPN Feb 2018 #147

you have your opinion, I have mine Exotica Feb 2018 #149

Oh brother! Nonsense! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #121

+1000. nt R B Garr Feb 2018 #135

Bullshit. KitSileya Feb 2018 #105

Thanks for your post. I predict that poster won't reply to you... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #122

Ken, what matters is he did NOT call out the Russians, trolls, bots, etc once he KNEW ... Hekate Feb 2018 #142

I wonder if he takes seriously the fact that if he runs against Trump for president betsuni Feb 2018 #145

Learning moment. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #68

That was AFTER he spear-headed a revolt at HER nominating conventions.... Kahuna7 Feb 2018 #104

See Posts #160 and #162. George II Feb 2018 #163

That's the actual definition of true progressive ehrnst Feb 2018 #19

+1 pandr32 Feb 2018 #178

Oh! Is that what he meant by 'why didn't she do anything?' leftstreet Feb 2018 #2

You might want to listen to the interview with VPR. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #5

She would not go negative on Sanders. ehrnst Feb 2018 #6

Exactly Me. Feb 2018 #3

Yeah, because it couldn't POSSIBLY be RandomAccess Feb 2018 #24

NO...And Especially As He Has The Advantage Of HIndsight Me. Feb 2018 #30

HIS people didn't steal her data either RandomAccess Feb 2018 #40

THey Broke Into Her Files Without Permission Me. Feb 2018 #44

Nope, they did not USE or even STORE her data RandomAccess Feb 2018 #46

So They Fired Their Tech For Doing NOthing? Me. Feb 2018 #48

Of course we're not going to agree on this RandomAccess Feb 2018 #50

Now That's An Unbelievable Stretch Me. Feb 2018 #51

Not to someone (like me) who was very closely following RandomAccess Feb 2018 #52

Now See...I Didn't Make My Comments To You Personal Me. Feb 2018 #54

Well, whatever RandomAccess Feb 2018 #56

Thank You Me. Feb 2018 #61

That is lulz. Uretsky got fired because it was Clinton trying R B Garr Feb 2018 #66

What the ever loving Hekate Feb 2018 #143

They created other user names for no reason. And just like R B Garr Feb 2018 #57

Bogus lawsuit? You've GOT to be kidding. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #59

Lawsuit was tossed out. Of course your database access will be restricted R B Garr Feb 2018 #63

I don't remember it being tossed out -- but I do remember that RandomAccess Feb 2018 #77

Some of the most revisionist history I have read on DU. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #70

Which time frames are those? ehrnst Feb 2018 #33

Well, it's like this RandomAccess Feb 2018 #42

I'm just going on what Bernie said in interviews yesterday and today. ehrnst Feb 2018 #49

I don't have a problem with him not knowing all at the time... dawg day Feb 2018 #62

Nixon v. Muskie comes to mind dawg day Feb 2018 #64

You're absolutely right RandomAccess Feb 2018 #76

Actually, no. ehrnst Feb 2018 #95

That doesn't change anything RandomAccess Feb 2018 #99

Weaver is denying Mueller's assertion that Russian Bots backed Bernie at all: ehrnst Feb 2018 #100

Not at all. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #101

I updated the post. But if you aren't interested in the information, I understand. ehrnst Feb 2018 #102

Good RandomAccess Feb 2018 #119

The hits keep on comin'.nt LexVegas Feb 2018 #4

That sanctions vote, tho. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #7

Cleary not hits against Sander or his campaign. They brought the matter to the CentralMass Feb 2018 #8

But Sanders said today that he "did not know that Russian Bots were promoting his campaign" ehrnst Feb 2018 #14

As the article I posted states after he lost the primary, ohn Mattes, who the used Sanders FB acct. CentralMass Feb 2018 #26

I did read the full article. ehrnst Feb 2018 #28

That doesn't explain why Bernie made the comment about Hillary. She HAD been speaking up pnwmom Feb 2018 #39

Clearly just talking about something, and not actually accomplishing anything ehrnst Feb 2018 #55

Yeah, 'cause it's not as if that isn't a pretty good summary of his career. NT KitSileya Feb 2018 #106

This sounds like it is one man who told the Clinton campaign.... dawg day Feb 2018 #67

Sep 2016... SidDithers Feb 2018 #9

Bernie is a patriot, unlike Trump. He is not going to pretend something did not happen MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #10

And he is going to make sure he blames the right people...like Hillary!! LexVegas Feb 2018 #12

LOL!! peggysue2 Feb 2018 #35

However, he denies knowing that it was going on. ehrnst Feb 2018 #15

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #11

The russians were helping trump and BS Cha Feb 2018 #16

Here in 2018 he's saying he knew what was going on in 2016, yet did nothing about it in 2016? George II Feb 2018 #17

Yes, it's quite confusing. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #22

They reported it to the Clinton campaign and Obama administration in September of 2016. CentralMass Feb 2018 #29

Who is "they?" ehrnst Feb 2018 #31

"They" didn't. Mattes did. But why didn't Bernie GO PUBLIC and tell his supporters pnwmom Feb 2018 #41

Bernie didn't want to acknowledge that the Russians were promoting his campaign. comradebillyboy Feb 2018 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Feb 2018 #80

Why not? yardwork Feb 2018 #83

Actually, the article says Mattes (the local guy) dawg day Feb 2018 #69

Ok. This article paints a different picture. I'll wait until the dust settles CentralMass Feb 2018 #75

Mueller hasn't issued a report ONLY indictments underthematrix Feb 2018 #27

Bernie is deflecting, as always. nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #127

K&R betsuni Feb 2018 #32

And he did next to nothing to stop it. :/ NT Adrahil Feb 2018 #34

Inconvenient truths peggysue2 Feb 2018 #38

+ 1000 Me. Feb 2018 #45

+1, starting to think this too ... especially sense we've not seen Sanders long form tax uponit7771 Feb 2018 #82

Ironic, no? peggysue2 Feb 2018 #89

Just 2014. And just the summary. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #110

Bernie never owned up to issues in his campaign in 2016. Blue_true Feb 2018 #126

We are all susceptible to having our... yallerdawg Feb 2018 #47

Here is the key quickesst Feb 2018 #78

He saw Russian interference in September... yet he said nothing. tinrobot Feb 2018 #79

I never heard anything either. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #97

Absolute silence from the man with the stentorian voice. Crickets. HIS "Revolution" or nothing. Hekate Feb 2018 #146

This is a terrible thing that happened to our democracy. yardwork Feb 2018 #81

+1000! KPN Feb 2018 #130

The fool's gambit is pretty clear here. ehrnst Feb 2018 #144

Let's make enemies. KPN Feb 2018 #131

With who? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #132

How about by who. KPN Feb 2018 #136

?? ehrnst Feb 2018 #138

Do be specific, KPN Hekate Feb 2018 #140

This thread as one of endless examples KPN Feb 2018 #148

Trust? Team building? So if people criticize Bernie, which he seems to be deserving lately Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #152

Not me, perhaps -- or more like, probably -- others. KPN Feb 2018 #153

So you think those others won't learn from Hortensis Feb 2018 #155

I don't know the answer to that. I do know that a vast number of potentially KPN Feb 2018 #168

You need to understand the liberal progressive ideals Hortensis Feb 2018 #193

How many threads discussed the revelations last month about the 2008 campaign? ehrnst Feb 2018 #164

I vaguely recall those, but didn't pay much attention. KPN Feb 2018 #170

You mean threads that share quotes from Bernie ehrnst Feb 2018 #180

You make assumptions that I don't agree with regarding Bern. So there's probably no reason KPN Feb 2018 #184

If one is very upset about such examples ehrnst Feb 2018 #156

Correction: some other people don't see it as divisive. KPN Feb 2018 #172

You mean "by whom"? George II Feb 2018 #150

OK. KPN Feb 2018 #154

Well, yes, he thought he could win because of it. liberal N proud Feb 2018 #151

One of the main attacks on Hillary from Russia was her emails. Sanders wanted nothing to do with Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #174

Trump has the same defense. Billions in ads and tweets didnt matter? bettyellen Feb 2018 #182

Editing after seeing the following line in the OP Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #188

People organizing FB groups had proof and tried to share it- but screwed up. bettyellen Feb 2018 #195

According to the OP she already had the nomination before his campaign discovered Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #197

Thats the thing-the BOBers were worse after he was eliminated and horrible during the DNC itself. bettyellen Feb 2018 #198

Well said, bettyellen.. Thank you! Cha Feb 2018 #202

Youre welcome- as always, Cha! 👊 bettyellen Feb 2018 #209

P.S. Hillary Worked Hard for Obama Cha Feb 2018 #203

The effects that his campaign saw first hand was on Facebook, not the emails. George II Feb 2018 #186

That's why Sanders aid warned Hillary as to what was going on there as noted in the OP Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #191

The man who warned the PAC (not Hillarys campaign) was NOT a staffer at all... which is why bettyellen Feb 2018 #211