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In reply to the discussion: Many people may not know this about the AR15. [View all]yagotme
(4,129 posts)the AR is "just like a shotgun, right?" I stated it was capable of the same or worse damage. For instance:
AR: Hi cap magazine, fires 20-100 bullets depending on magazine, .224 inch diameter, one round at a time.
Shotgun: 12 gauge, 3" shell, #4 buck shot, roughly .24 inch diameter, 41 pellets per shell.
So, a shooter fires his AR as fast as he can (semi-auto now, 1 pull of trigger = 1 round), and MIGHT manage to empty a 100 round drum, if it doesn't jam, in 10 seconds.
Then another shooter, with a 3" 12 gauge pump hunting gun with cylinder choke, fires 3 rounds in well under 10 seconds. Well aimed, also, unlike the guy spraying rounds from the AR.
OK, math time: 3x41=123>100. At 15 yards or less, you are putting more projectiles on target with the shotgun than you are with the AR. And, I didn't forget shot dispersion. The shotgun load will spread, but so will the grouping of someone trying to get off 100 rds of .223 in 10 seconds, so I called that a wash. The shotgunner can actually aim carefully in 10 seconds.
Let's not forget velocity:
AR: 3000 +/- fps
3" 12: 1300-1450 fps +/-
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/remington-3-magnum-12-gauge-no-4-buckshot-41-pellets-5-rounds?a=1593371
https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2012/1/31/buckshot-basics/
(different shot size, but close)https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/winchester-12-gauge-3-oo-supreme-high-velocity-buckshot-5-rounds?a=1589554
And, there's a 3 1/2" magnum, too. Even more pellets. Same time frame.