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DirkGently

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84. Funny, I waded through a lot of these threads & didn't see that once.

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 03:21 AM

Jan 2012

I saw a lot of people patiently explaining Greenwald's point that a goofy fringe candidate like Paul can embarrass Democrats by claiming progressive positions on drug policy and foreign wars.

Didn't see anyone either supporting Ron Paul or suggesting anyone vote for him.

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Why is Glen Greenwald's name popping up all over the board tonight? [View all] bluestateguy Jan 2012 OP

He's running for President toddaa Jan 2012 #1

He criticised some of Obama's policies. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #2

yeah, that is the reason ...the ONLY reason Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #5

No, I distinctly remember him smearing progressives, while pumping Ron Paul. joshcryer Jan 2012 #6

How has he been "pumping" Ron Paul? baldguy Jan 2012 #22

Sure thing: joshcryer Jan 2012 #24

This is not pumping girl gone mad Jan 2012 #26

You are wrong. joshcryer Jan 2012 #28

Nope. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #30

b : to elicit by persistent questioning joshcryer Jan 2012 #34

What information is being elicited? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #43

Whether we can deny that Ron Pauls (fascist) views need to be heard. joshcryer Jan 2012 #45

That makes no sense. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #52

I added the fascist bit, otherwise the "persistant question" is... joshcryer Jan 2012 #56

That clearly doesn't meet the definition of "pumping". girl gone mad Jan 2012 #60

It absolutely does. You don't think that asking you to view 20 minutes of Ron Paul videos... joshcryer Jan 2012 #62

No, I do not.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #66

Oops, I thought you did, correcting... joshcryer Jan 2012 #69

+1 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #106

That's not the part that needs to be heard SixthSense Jan 2012 #89

"It�s perfectly legitimate to criticize Paul harshly..." baldguy Jan 2012 #33

So, that sentence completely destroys the entire rest of the article where he pumps Ron Paul? joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president," baldguy Jan 2012 #53

Never did that. joshcryer Jan 2012 #55

That's all you're doing. baldguy Jan 2012 #63

Nope. He's free to share his opinion. I'm free to share mine. joshcryer Jan 2012 #64

Not only is he not pumping Paul, you took that passage out of context. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #35

I posted the link so anyone can derive context. The passage is right after almost 20 minutes... joshcryer Jan 2012 #37

Pumping? Ummmmm.........no. Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #54

Um, yes. I explained it clearly and concisely. joshcryer Jan 2012 #57

Have Katrina Van Heuvel and Barney Frank, Dennis Kucinich among other Democrats, also been sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #95

Except none of them, to my knowledge, have called progressives simple minded. joshcryer Jan 2012 #102

Neither did Glenn Greenwald. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #105

He called out DUers. joshcryer Jan 2012 #108

I know what he did. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #109

Are you saying you don't think DUers are progressive? joshcryer Jan 2012 #110

Why are you asking me what I am saying when what I said sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #111

Well, you used a smiley face while acknowleding GG bashed DUers. joshcryer Jan 2012 #112

I hope you're not planning on ever becoming a lawyer. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #113

There are a lot of assumptions to be made from failure to object, too. joshcryer Jan 2012 #114

Failure to object to what? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #120

Certainly not all, some by there own self description and others who contend any action is progress. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #115

GG doesn't go as far as to say they're not progressive. joshcryer Jan 2012 #116

Didn't he refer specifically to someone calling him an "asshat?" Call that sophisticated, do you? DirkGently Jan 2012 #132

Search freshstart Jan 2012 #127

funny... most of us see something verrry different fascisthunter Jan 2012 #133

You omitted a TINY bit CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #59

Because attacking personalities is way easier than processing ideas. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #3

It's been on and off since GG smeared Progressives for dissing Ron Paul. joshcryer Jan 2012 #4

They 'dug' up nothing people who are familiar with GG did not know. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #97

The majority of Democrats knew he worked for the Cato Institute? joshcryer Jan 2012 #100

Yes, they did and they knew why. Do you? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #103

I don't belong to the Democratic Party. joshcryer Jan 2012 #107

The Obama apologists are in Purge mode. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #7

Maybe ProSense Jan 2012 #10

What are you in favor of? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #13

Citizen's United? War in Iraq and Afganistan? Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #21

And? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #25

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #31

What a bizarre comment. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #39

Do ProSense Jan 2012 #104

Why play dumb? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #119

You do know don't you, that there has been a disturbing effort to silence Greenwald. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #101

The quality of the response to your post brentspeak Jan 2012 #38

If you say so. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #41

I wouldn't care if Greenwald were called on logical inconsistencies. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #47

But that's where you got him wrong. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #71

Many people on the left lean Libertarian on certain positions. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #75

Do you understand what "criticism" is? And Greenwald has praised Obama, by the way. DirkGently Jan 2012 #130

Well ProSense Jan 2012 #27

I guess you aren't in favor of answering direct questions. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #32

Lol, that was a good one. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #99

Name them. You've been pushing this meme, back up your claims. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #12

He got a similar post hidden by the jury, probably just a bit of drama. Hope the next jury... joshcryer Jan 2012 #18

you'd love them to be banned, so there's your desire to purge fascisthunter Jan 2012 #134

It seems that the Greenwald apologists Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #66

He claimed to be Elvis' long lost son. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #8

I hear he ate a kitten. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2012 #9

But, that kitten was a cage free, free range kitten, humanely put down. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #78

Greenwald and Paul must both be utterly destroyed.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #11

I noticed that as well....criticism of Obama from the left will not be tolerated Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #48

Ron Paul is from the left?! Really?! Fuck this shit. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #126

"Utterly destroyed"??? By posters on a message board? CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #61

Certainly not for lack of trying.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #68

Well, that's been the pattern of DU...the hot button of the moment CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #80

A woman breastfeeding her circumcised infant in the Olive Garden.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #90

Ron Paul is "from the left"? boppers Jan 2012 #74

In his criticism of the drug war and war in general he could be take that way, yes.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #76

Two things make him worthwhile? vaberella Jan 2012 #125

I, for one, resent the assertion that Ron Paul's ideology comes "from the left". MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #81

The anti-drug war portion certainly doesn't come from the Republicans or the conservatives.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #91

Who on that chart is to the right of Ron Paul? boppers Jan 2012 #93

The two on the chart who agree with the anti-drug war portion are Kucinich and Nader.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #94

Paul? As in Ron Paul? vaberella Jan 2012 #124

He's a surrogate punching bag, like all other progressives who stray from the Big Tent. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #14

Um... I guess you would have just re-populated the "pop" with this thread, then? MrMickeysMom Jan 2012 #15

RW spin 101 baldguy Jan 2012 #16

He won American Idol cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #17

Because he's promoting Ron Paul geek tragedy Jan 2012 #19

How? baldguy Jan 2012 #23

But he isn't being criticized specifically for "promoting Ron Paul".. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #50

In their misguided defense of Obama, they go out of their way to kill the messenger. baldguy Jan 2012 #79

Sneaky of him to say, "I am not �endorsing� or expressing support for anyone�s candidacy" DirkGently Jan 2012 #82

He demonizes Obama as a hideous monster but heaps geek tragedy Jan 2012 #96

Wow. Project much? This is the partisan mindset Greenwald warned about. DirkGently Jan 2012 #131

This is why I miss GD and GD:P from DU2. neverforget Jan 2012 #20

I dunno about that... CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #65

Exactly the opposite.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #70

+1 girl gone mad Jan 2012 #121

It's almost as though it was a coordinated attack on an outspoken progressive... ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #29

It's called blowback. joshcryer Jan 2012 #40

"hateful Ron Paul pumping screeds" girl gone mad Jan 2012 #51

The Greenwald fan club already views Obama as some kind of evil rapist geek tragedy Jan 2012 #98

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this is an old story that just won`t die madrchsod Jan 2012 #44

I've seen way worse. It's the Ron Paul defense force that brought it back. joshcryer Jan 2012 #46

Because people have been posting from his writings incessantly frazzled Jan 2012 #49

Yes, at first I didn't realize but it's become clear he's a Libertarian in sheeps clothing. joshcryer Jan 2012 #58

He's been re-convicted of criticizing the President. AND invoking the name of Ron Paul. DirkGently Jan 2012 #73

It's the 2012 DU version of 2004/2008 Ralph Nader campaigns Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #77

Precisely. I am personally outraged by the Ron Paul apologia I'm witnessing here. joshcryer Jan 2012 #83

Funny, I waded through a lot of these threads & didn't see that once. DirkGently Jan 2012 #84

He said Ron Paul's "views desperately need to be heard." joshcryer Jan 2012 #86

The views he referred to were "anti-war, pro-due-process, pro-transparency, anti-Fed, anti- DirkGently Jan 2012 #88

None of those views are supported by Ron Paul's *IDEOLOGY*, just barely his *RHETORIC*. joshcryer Jan 2012 #92

Lip service is a lot further than most will go and deregulation is worse than what we have now how? TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #117

How are his fake positions better than anyone elses? Merit more discussion than anyone elses? joshcryer Jan 2012 #118

Because his fakest positions all need to be real Democratic positions and they desrve to be hounded TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #128

Rhetoric would be a start. Again, one can separate ideas from people. DirkGently Jan 2012 #129

because vitriolic demagogues are controversial? nt killbotfactory Jan 2012 #85

I guess people like repeating the same damn thing DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #87

smearing and pumping seem to be Greenwald's crimes. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #122

He questioned executive branch powers mmonk Jan 2012 #123