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89. Well, I dont see why the sex of the teacher would matter. TRAINING would.

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:03 PM

Feb 2018

I know several women who can outshoot most any man, because they've been well trained.
We have thousands of well trained women in the military.
One of the 2 officers who stopped the Congress ball team shooting was a woman. And she was also up against an AR I believe.
if it was a test of strength it may be a different story.

But if this came to pass, no teacher should be armed unless they WANT to be.
I'd rather see regular security. Obviously this guy screwed up. he's not typical

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Breaking: Stoneman Douglas School resource officer "never went in" once the shooting started [View all] NightWatcher Feb 2018 OP

"taking up a position and never going in" is a polite way to say he was hiding. unblock Feb 2018 #1

This deputy was more frank in this interview lunasun Feb 2018 #21

Pretty much proves the lie of a common trope here. appal_jack Feb 2018 #97

whatever. unblock Feb 2018 #101

I have a crazy idea, very crazy Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #2

Doesn't Switzerland do something like this? fierywoman Feb 2018 #17

The regulated militia part? Red Mountain Feb 2018 #72

Yes, yes, and yes! fierywoman Feb 2018 #96

Talking about an "ah-ha" moment. This should be spread far and wide. K&R brush Feb 2018 #98

CNN is all over this. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #3

I watched the press conference on Florida Local 10 malaise Feb 2018 #15

Parkland was the SAFEST city in FL DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #32

Precisely - and I have no doubt that he is as destroyed mentally as everyone who experienced malaise Feb 2018 #38

Labeling People "Cowards"? busterbrown Feb 2018 #62

We Need More Guys Like This To Keep Our Schools Safe nt SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #4

The cop was chicken shit, so the math teacher should've gone in blazing NightWatcher Feb 2018 #5

Teachers Are Trained & Educated To Defend Their Students With Guns SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #7

Um, no, cops are trained & educated to defend the public. n/t. whathehell Feb 2018 #68

Horrible events madaboutharry Feb 2018 #6

Why should any of them have to sacrifice themselves and deprive their own families malaise Feb 2018 #18

Exactly Malaise...! busterbrown Feb 2018 #70

Precisely malaise Feb 2018 #71

Of course it's madness, and it's spiraling even more out of control with gun nuts calling... brush Feb 2018 #100

I hope so malaise Feb 2018 #103

Yes, the shooter drills held regularly at the school made foresight impossible . . . hatrack Feb 2018 #87

And some very brave students UpInArms Feb 2018 #24

Some people are born with bravery. madaboutharry Feb 2018 #25

Great kid- bravery, initiative, a leader. It's unusual and exemplary. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #78

And a very young JrRotc took 5 bullets holding door for others. OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #108

Wouldn't he have been out-armed and probably killed? milestogo Feb 2018 #8

Yes. Thats what he signed up for. nolabear Feb 2018 #11

It seems that high school security should involve swat teams on site. milestogo Feb 2018 #50

Nope just a group of uncoordinated and untrained teachers exboyfil Feb 2018 #64

Unbelievable, isn't it? yardwork Feb 2018 #67

Precisely malaise Feb 2018 #19

Yes janterry Feb 2018 #40

He could have called for backup maybe? whathehell Feb 2018 #69

IIRC, he was the one that called 911 FarCenter Feb 2018 #88

If he saw the shooter and the weapon, describing that to the swat team milestogo Feb 2018 #99

He had enough time in to resign and retire. They were going to suspend him . He retired lunasun Feb 2018 #9

how many of us would go into the building lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #10

But he was employed to keep everyone safe. It was his job. The guilt he livetohike Feb 2018 #12

Yes, it was his job... what he signed up for lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #27

But it was his job. He was there for that reason. nolabear Feb 2018 #14

He might have thought being an SRO was a sweet gig, especially if he was close to retiring. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #28

This is my point. lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #39

That's actually a good example though. Also the Tyler Texas courthouse shooting. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #54

every time??? lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #63

I meant in all three cases I cited. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #65

Yep. Takes the initative away from the shooter. Initative is everything in a fight. Nailzberg Feb 2018 #80

But of course, my first preference would be not having readily available guns everywhere. Nailzberg Feb 2018 #83

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #73

I think a lot of people would have Mosby Feb 2018 #33

They are usually trained to not go "John Wayne" and wait for backup. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #44

Video said they were going to suspend him without pay but he retired. Does lunasun Feb 2018 #57

Given the situation, I doubt they would stand by him even if it was policy. nt NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #59

Actually, I think most people WOULD have gone into the building. PdxSean Feb 2018 #34

No one knows how brave they are until they are in a situation that requires bravery. Blue_true Feb 2018 #49

I would tazkcmo Feb 2018 #104

takes a certain type of guts to walk into a firefight BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #13

This is what I posted on another thread: tblue37 Feb 2018 #23

very true....and apparently not a "once in a million" consideration BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #26

. . . and a certain amount of cowardice to swear to protect someone then hide when the need arises. PdxSean Feb 2018 #36

These school security guards are not much more than mall cops BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #42

He was a deputy sheriff. PdxSean Feb 2018 #58

A Deputy Sheriff assigned to a school...says much of what his superiors thought of his abilities. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #61

Oh god! Cha Feb 2018 #16

Oh really? What a coward, lock him up!!! SummerSnow Feb 2018 #20

Don't think he would have stopped the shooter just because that was his job. world wide wally Feb 2018 #77

I doubt the officer was equipped to walk in on something Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #22

How Many Times Are Officers Downed By A Single Gunman. Taking Someone Out Is Hard. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2018 #29

Especially when you have a pistol and you can hear Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #84

Seriously, and this story just plays into the hands JenniferJuniper Feb 2018 #31

Exactly Jennifer. Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #85

So much for that armed guards idea RandySF Feb 2018 #30

I don't know enough about what happened, but I'm not sure his running in guns blazing would have Hoyt Feb 2018 #35

Weren't there officers in the Vegas crowd, including the Chief? Blue_true Feb 2018 #51

I think those who want to sell more guns and protect access to guns, say that, whether they believe Hoyt Feb 2018 #60

I cant blame the cop. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #37

A certain responsibility comes when you strap a gun to your hip. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #41

I have family serving as law enforcement officers too. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #43

I thought of this too. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #56

Nope, you are wrong obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #92

Deputy Sheriff rpannier Feb 2018 #76

Agreed obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #91

I cant say I blame him. He didnt sign up to get himself killed. Police Officers boston bean Feb 2018 #45

Agreed -- why are people equating cops with military?! obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #93

Most people won't know what they'll do until it happens... Baconator Feb 2018 #46

No amount of armed security guards exist to cilla4progress Feb 2018 #47

This event is taking apart the gunner's talking points one by one NightWatcher Feb 2018 #48

People should not be put in a position.... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #52

I doubt he had a gun that could outshoot the AR15 Motley13 Feb 2018 #53

He was armed with a 9mm and two extra mags obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #94

It's my understanding that active shooter protocol allows a single officer mnhtnbb Feb 2018 #55

My first thought was he could have opened a door and started screaming I'm coming in and shooting. OregonBlue Feb 2018 #66

That would have worked REAL well... jmowreader Feb 2018 #86

THis isn't the movies obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #95

I didn't mean he should actually go inside. I just thought he should yell and fire his gun OregonBlue Feb 2018 #116

Hang gun vs assault rifle ? I'm not 100 % blaming him off the top of my head uponit7771 Feb 2018 #74

So much for putting armed guards at schools Thrill Feb 2018 #75

Most teachers are women. Delmette2.0 Feb 2018 #79

No point in going in Proud liberal 80 Feb 2018 #81

We Should Arm The Teacher DallasNE Feb 2018 #82

Well, I dont see why the sex of the teacher would matter. TRAINING would. 7962 Feb 2018 #89

Why It Matters DallasNE Feb 2018 #109

I dont see anyone from any group wanting to FORCE any teacher to be armed. 7962 Feb 2018 #110

I am far from being a fan of cops, but they don't sign up to be killed obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #90

He took the job knowing he might have to put his life on the line HopeAgain Feb 2018 #102

Coward police Devil Child Feb 2018 #105

Scared Guy With A Gun PubliusEnigma Feb 2018 #106

What a damn coward Calculating Feb 2018 #107

The easiest thing to ever do is calling someone else a coward. Oneironaut Feb 2018 #111

Why was he under investigation? Why'd he resign? NightWatcher Feb 2018 #112

I would agree that he failed at his duty. All Im saying is, his reaction is very understandable. Oneironaut Feb 2018 #114

Hes a trained police officer Devil Child Feb 2018 #113

I agree, but see my response above. He no doubt failed in his duty, Oneironaut Feb 2018 #115