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Oneironaut

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111. The easiest thing to ever do is calling someone else a coward.

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

Feb 2018

It's easy to say what someone else "should have done," not being in that situation. It wasn't your life on the line - there's no personal investment.

It's different when it's you and when it's actually happening. The truth is, given the same situation, nobody knows how they would actually act.

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Breaking: Stoneman Douglas School resource officer "never went in" once the shooting started [View all] NightWatcher Feb 2018 OP

"taking up a position and never going in" is a polite way to say he was hiding. unblock Feb 2018 #1

This deputy was more frank in this interview lunasun Feb 2018 #21

Pretty much proves the lie of a common trope here. appal_jack Feb 2018 #97

whatever. unblock Feb 2018 #101

I have a crazy idea, very crazy Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #2

Doesn't Switzerland do something like this? fierywoman Feb 2018 #17

The regulated militia part? Red Mountain Feb 2018 #72

Yes, yes, and yes! fierywoman Feb 2018 #96

Talking about an "ah-ha" moment. This should be spread far and wide. K&R brush Feb 2018 #98

CNN is all over this. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #3

I watched the press conference on Florida Local 10 malaise Feb 2018 #15

Parkland was the SAFEST city in FL DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #32

Precisely - and I have no doubt that he is as destroyed mentally as everyone who experienced malaise Feb 2018 #38

Labeling People "Cowards"? busterbrown Feb 2018 #62

We Need More Guys Like This To Keep Our Schools Safe nt SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #4

The cop was chicken shit, so the math teacher should've gone in blazing NightWatcher Feb 2018 #5

Teachers Are Trained & Educated To Defend Their Students With Guns SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #7

Um, no, cops are trained & educated to defend the public. n/t. whathehell Feb 2018 #68

Horrible events madaboutharry Feb 2018 #6

Why should any of them have to sacrifice themselves and deprive their own families malaise Feb 2018 #18

Exactly Malaise...! busterbrown Feb 2018 #70

Precisely malaise Feb 2018 #71

Of course it's madness, and it's spiraling even more out of control with gun nuts calling... brush Feb 2018 #100

I hope so malaise Feb 2018 #103

Yes, the shooter drills held regularly at the school made foresight impossible . . . hatrack Feb 2018 #87

And some very brave students UpInArms Feb 2018 #24

Some people are born with bravery. madaboutharry Feb 2018 #25

Great kid- bravery, initiative, a leader. It's unusual and exemplary. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #78

And a very young JrRotc took 5 bullets holding door for others. OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #108

Wouldn't he have been out-armed and probably killed? milestogo Feb 2018 #8

Yes. Thats what he signed up for. nolabear Feb 2018 #11

It seems that high school security should involve swat teams on site. milestogo Feb 2018 #50

Nope just a group of uncoordinated and untrained teachers exboyfil Feb 2018 #64

Unbelievable, isn't it? yardwork Feb 2018 #67

Precisely malaise Feb 2018 #19

Yes janterry Feb 2018 #40

He could have called for backup maybe? whathehell Feb 2018 #69

IIRC, he was the one that called 911 FarCenter Feb 2018 #88

If he saw the shooter and the weapon, describing that to the swat team milestogo Feb 2018 #99

He had enough time in to resign and retire. They were going to suspend him . He retired lunasun Feb 2018 #9

how many of us would go into the building lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #10

But he was employed to keep everyone safe. It was his job. The guilt he livetohike Feb 2018 #12

Yes, it was his job... what he signed up for lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #27

But it was his job. He was there for that reason. nolabear Feb 2018 #14

He might have thought being an SRO was a sweet gig, especially if he was close to retiring. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #28

This is my point. lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #39

That's actually a good example though. Also the Tyler Texas courthouse shooting. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #54

every time??? lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #63

I meant in all three cases I cited. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #65

Yep. Takes the initative away from the shooter. Initative is everything in a fight. Nailzberg Feb 2018 #80

But of course, my first preference would be not having readily available guns everywhere. Nailzberg Feb 2018 #83

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #73

I think a lot of people would have Mosby Feb 2018 #33

They are usually trained to not go "John Wayne" and wait for backup. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #44

Video said they were going to suspend him without pay but he retired. Does lunasun Feb 2018 #57

Given the situation, I doubt they would stand by him even if it was policy. nt NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #59

Actually, I think most people WOULD have gone into the building. PdxSean Feb 2018 #34

No one knows how brave they are until they are in a situation that requires bravery. Blue_true Feb 2018 #49

I would tazkcmo Feb 2018 #104

takes a certain type of guts to walk into a firefight BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #13

This is what I posted on another thread: tblue37 Feb 2018 #23

very true....and apparently not a "once in a million" consideration BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #26

. . . and a certain amount of cowardice to swear to protect someone then hide when the need arises. PdxSean Feb 2018 #36

These school security guards are not much more than mall cops BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #42

He was a deputy sheriff. PdxSean Feb 2018 #58

A Deputy Sheriff assigned to a school...says much of what his superiors thought of his abilities. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #61

Oh god! Cha Feb 2018 #16

Oh really? What a coward, lock him up!!! SummerSnow Feb 2018 #20

Don't think he would have stopped the shooter just because that was his job. world wide wally Feb 2018 #77

I doubt the officer was equipped to walk in on something Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #22

How Many Times Are Officers Downed By A Single Gunman. Taking Someone Out Is Hard. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2018 #29

Especially when you have a pistol and you can hear Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #84

Seriously, and this story just plays into the hands JenniferJuniper Feb 2018 #31

Exactly Jennifer. Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #85

So much for that armed guards idea RandySF Feb 2018 #30

I don't know enough about what happened, but I'm not sure his running in guns blazing would have Hoyt Feb 2018 #35

Weren't there officers in the Vegas crowd, including the Chief? Blue_true Feb 2018 #51

I think those who want to sell more guns and protect access to guns, say that, whether they believe Hoyt Feb 2018 #60

I cant blame the cop. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #37

A certain responsibility comes when you strap a gun to your hip. NightWatcher Feb 2018 #41

I have family serving as law enforcement officers too. NutmegYankee Feb 2018 #43

I thought of this too. Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #56

Nope, you are wrong obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #92

Deputy Sheriff rpannier Feb 2018 #76

Agreed obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #91

I cant say I blame him. He didnt sign up to get himself killed. Police Officers boston bean Feb 2018 #45

Agreed -- why are people equating cops with military?! obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #93

Most people won't know what they'll do until it happens... Baconator Feb 2018 #46

No amount of armed security guards exist to cilla4progress Feb 2018 #47

This event is taking apart the gunner's talking points one by one NightWatcher Feb 2018 #48

People should not be put in a position.... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #52

I doubt he had a gun that could outshoot the AR15 Motley13 Feb 2018 #53

He was armed with a 9mm and two extra mags obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #94

It's my understanding that active shooter protocol allows a single officer mnhtnbb Feb 2018 #55

My first thought was he could have opened a door and started screaming I'm coming in and shooting. OregonBlue Feb 2018 #66

That would have worked REAL well... jmowreader Feb 2018 #86

THis isn't the movies obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #95

I didn't mean he should actually go inside. I just thought he should yell and fire his gun OregonBlue Feb 2018 #116

Hang gun vs assault rifle ? I'm not 100 % blaming him off the top of my head uponit7771 Feb 2018 #74

So much for putting armed guards at schools Thrill Feb 2018 #75

Most teachers are women. Delmette2.0 Feb 2018 #79

No point in going in Proud liberal 80 Feb 2018 #81

We Should Arm The Teacher DallasNE Feb 2018 #82

Well, I dont see why the sex of the teacher would matter. TRAINING would. 7962 Feb 2018 #89

Why It Matters DallasNE Feb 2018 #109

I dont see anyone from any group wanting to FORCE any teacher to be armed. 7962 Feb 2018 #110

I am far from being a fan of cops, but they don't sign up to be killed obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #90

He took the job knowing he might have to put his life on the line HopeAgain Feb 2018 #102

Coward police Devil Child Feb 2018 #105

Scared Guy With A Gun PubliusEnigma Feb 2018 #106

What a damn coward Calculating Feb 2018 #107

The easiest thing to ever do is calling someone else a coward. Oneironaut Feb 2018 #111

Why was he under investigation? Why'd he resign? NightWatcher Feb 2018 #112

I would agree that he failed at his duty. All Im saying is, his reaction is very understandable. Oneironaut Feb 2018 #114

Hes a trained police officer Devil Child Feb 2018 #113

I agree, but see my response above. He no doubt failed in his duty, Oneironaut Feb 2018 #115