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sarisataka

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40. It is very possible

Fri Feb 23, 2018, 03:32 PM

Feb 2018

Or they could freeze and do nothing or they could hit a bystander or...

But I never claimed any of those things wouldn't happen.

The only thing I am claiming is the situation is set up so the person with the gun in the room is guaranteed to fail to stop the instructor from being shot and will be the second person shot.

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ABC news staged an active shooting scenario with random individuals and it went as expected: [View all] joshcryer Feb 2018 OP

I wish I could make every person I know with a gun (or who I suspect has guns), watch this. hlthe2b Feb 2018 #1

I've seen it many times. Straw Man Feb 2018 #4

Your screen name seems... hlthe2b Feb 2018 #8

Really? Straw Man Feb 2018 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Roland99 Feb 2018 #22

I think the baggy shirts are OK. joshcryer Feb 2018 #11

Given the revealing video of the "safety officer" who shot himself in the foot just re-holstering... hlthe2b Feb 2018 #12

Yeah, I don't see the need to nitpick. joshcryer Feb 2018 #15

That is the situation they were in treestar Feb 2018 #26

Not to mention the fact that the "shooter" is a trained officer. 7962 Feb 2018 #29

Which is why so many of them LoveMyCali Feb 2018 #34

+1. meadowlander Feb 2018 #55

Very informative. femmocrat Feb 2018 #2

+1000 Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #3

Thank you for posting this. most timely, indeed. n/t dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #5

This is well-done. k&r, nt. appal_jack Feb 2018 #6

I remembered seeing that years ago, but couldn't recall which network. Glad you found the video. highplainsdem Feb 2018 #7

As said above, a totally ridiculously set up scenario Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #9

yep - I agree azureblue Feb 2018 #16

Just like in real life .... VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #30

Nope Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #31

You got lucky VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #32

No I was prepared Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #33

Millions of cases a year? NoMoreRepugs Feb 2018 #35

Provide some evidence for your claim of "millions of cases a year" please. nt. Mariana Feb 2018 #36

Here is an article discussing a CDC report Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #39

I'd like to read the actual report, rather than a summary Mariana Feb 2018 #44

Here you go: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #47

Thanks! nt. Mariana Feb 2018 #49

Well, it is down to half a million from millions. "Use" of gun is not defined, and no link to report Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #48

Here's the link at the National Academies Press, with "use of gun" defined: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #51

Link? Not NRA...millions..lol. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #42

"Not NRA" The Centers for Disease Control, actually: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #46

And for each person who "gets lucky" meadowlander Feb 2018 #57

Based on the stats posted earlier a lot less Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #60

Unfortunately, gun humpers will watch this and say ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #10

and the gun humpers are out in full force azureblue Feb 2018 #18

Kindly point out these purported 'gun humpers' to us friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #37

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #13

Staged sarisataka Feb 2018 #14

No more and no less than the creative fiction of movies and heroes that is referenced LanternWaste Feb 2018 #17

I don't really understand sarisataka Feb 2018 #19

It is actually possible treestar Feb 2018 #25

It is very possible sarisataka Feb 2018 #40

How set up? treestar Feb 2018 #41

As others have pointed out sarisataka Feb 2018 #43

She was going to have died in the scenario treestar Feb 2018 #52

Only a moron sarisataka Feb 2018 #53

Why would they tell them that in the scenario? treestar Feb 2018 #58

. sarisataka Feb 2018 #59

For those saying this was rigged to fail, why don't you get sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #20

Surprise is the biggest factor in ANY situation. 7962 Feb 2018 #28

How many lectures have audience members wearing work gloves? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #50

Gunhumpers. The imagery is LOL. nt Blue_true Feb 2018 #23

It is real life and not like the movies treestar Feb 2018 #24

Old video, and staged for failure from start to finish. They got the result they wanted. 7962 Feb 2018 #27

I agree PatentlyDemocratic Feb 2018 #38

53,000 down votes? LOL folks are mad... Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #45

I saw this when it first aired. I wish I could rec this more than once Josh. Turn CO Blue Feb 2018 #54

The odds of such an occurrence happening as depicted are about zilch Kaleva Feb 2018 #56

You hear more stories of concealed carry people "being on the scene but not firing..." joshcryer Feb 2018 #61