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In reply to the discussion: ABC news staged an active shooting scenario with random individuals and it went as expected: [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)51. Here's the link at the National Academies Press, with "use of gun" defined:
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1
Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence
Pages 15 and 16:
Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence
Pages 15 and 16:
Defensive Use of Guns
Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.
A different issue is whether defensive uses of guns, however numerous or rare they may be, are effective in preventing injury to the gun-wielding crime victim. Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual
defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was used by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies (Kleck, 1988; Kleck and DeLone, 1993; Southwick, 2000; Tark and Kleck, 2004). Effectiveness of defensive tactics, however, is likely to vary across types of victims, types of offenders, and circumstances of the crime, so further research is needed both to explore these contingencies and to confirm or discount earlier findings.
Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.
A different issue is whether defensive uses of guns, however numerous or rare they may be, are effective in preventing injury to the gun-wielding crime victim. Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual
defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was used by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies (Kleck, 1988; Kleck and DeLone, 1993; Southwick, 2000; Tark and Kleck, 2004). Effectiveness of defensive tactics, however, is likely to vary across types of victims, types of offenders, and circumstances of the crime, so further research is needed both to explore these contingencies and to confirm or discount earlier findings.
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ABC news staged an active shooting scenario with random individuals and it went as expected: [View all]
joshcryer
Feb 2018
OP
I wish I could make every person I know with a gun (or who I suspect has guns), watch this.
hlthe2b
Feb 2018
#1
Given the revealing video of the "safety officer" who shot himself in the foot just re-holstering...
hlthe2b
Feb 2018
#12
I remembered seeing that years ago, but couldn't recall which network. Glad you found the video.
highplainsdem
Feb 2018
#7
Well, it is down to half a million from millions. "Use" of gun is not defined, and no link to report
Fred Sanders
Feb 2018
#48
Here's the link at the National Academies Press, with "use of gun" defined:
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#51
No more and no less than the creative fiction of movies and heroes that is referenced
LanternWaste
Feb 2018
#17
Old video, and staged for failure from start to finish. They got the result they wanted.
7962
Feb 2018
#27
I saw this when it first aired. I wish I could rec this more than once Josh.
Turn CO Blue
Feb 2018
#54
You hear more stories of concealed carry people "being on the scene but not firing..."
joshcryer
Feb 2018
#61