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Hassin Bin Sober

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84. You keep making factually incorrect statements.

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:16 PM

Feb 2018

The wiki piece you posted said people were free to walk down but they paid for parking and amenities. The previous owner did not restrict access, they just provided parking and amenities.

And where easements are concerned, tradition does in fact count

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How dumb can people be to allow human beings to own DIRT Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1

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oh. ok. Anon-C Feb 2018 #67

So you agree with the above poster who is against private property? EX500rider Feb 2018 #69

Not when MFM008 Feb 2018 #71

The poster I responded to is against ALL private property judging by the post EX500rider Feb 2018 #72

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I was solely responding to a "no personal property" post if you didn't notice. EX500rider Feb 2018 #79

The rich consider themselves superior to us common folk dhol82 Feb 2018 #2

I think I agree with him in theory sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #3

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The Indians??? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #12

Theres an easement. Codeine Feb 2018 #14

It could be done away with. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #17

We handle public beach access differently in California. Codeine Feb 2018 #18

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Why would opening the road rusty fender Feb 2018 #52

The past owner had charged people for that sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #63

So it isnt a requirement of CA law rusty fender Feb 2018 #70

I'm not. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #74

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They were parking on his property, not just driving through it sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #78

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I looked up a couple of articles on it. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #80

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Then it's simple treestar Feb 2018 #87

Do like Oregon. Make ALL beaches public. It is disgusting they try to keep people out of beaches. blake2012 Feb 2018 #8

This JDC Feb 2018 #10

You can always get there sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #13

My wholehearted hope is he loses in court blake2012 Feb 2018 #34

Well not one, but two courts in CA have ruled otherwise kcr Feb 2018 #86

In California all beaches ARE public MurrayDelph Feb 2018 #43

The state merely wants him to apply for a permit to restrict public access Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #9

This is what he should have done from the statt. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #15

The guy bought the property knowing the public had access. Mariana Feb 2018 #20

Sorry, I disagree sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #23

No. Property rights do not always trump tradition. MineralMan Feb 2018 #39

Who said I was a "progressive"? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #51

My error. Whatever you say...you're not a progressive, then. MineralMan Feb 2018 #53

Not at all sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #59

You don't know all the laws there. MineralMan Feb 2018 #64

That is what I just said, I don't know all their laws sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #68

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Who said you were a progressive? Probably nobody CreekDog Feb 2018 #98

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True. Here today; gone tomorrow... MineralMan Feb 2018 #97

You keep making factually incorrect statements. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #84

But he needs a permit for that Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #40

I looked at other stories sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #48

I have news for you - the people own the beach. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #45

The people may own the beach sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #58

You seemed to be in agreement that an easement is valid if the Easement grantee owns the property Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #85

Then he can move. It's not like he doesn't have the means to do it JI7 Feb 2018 #11

Or people could go to another beach sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #19

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It is the only access to the beach. DLevine Feb 2018 #81

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Wish the state of Washington had all beaches public, here you can own the beach down to Canoe52 Feb 2018 #54

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Thanks for the insight CreekDog. n/t seaglass Feb 2018 #30

great post! Brings out some VERY INTERESTING FACTS TY! bluestarone Feb 2018 #33

+ JI7 Feb 2018 #42

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yes, cjeekdgg! CreekDog Feb 2018 #47

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Oh dear... Tatiana Feb 2018 #93

I'm glad he keeps losing. The coastline doesn't belong to him and if he doesn't like then he should tenderfoot Feb 2018 #56

He won the first time sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #61

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Read the previous post sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #24

Absurd. It is all about right of way access to the ocean beach front. democratisphere Feb 2018 #27

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Thank you Atman! democratisphere Feb 2018 #38

There is a fence in the pics sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #65

The past owner had been charging for parking and use of the "facilities' sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #62

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I've just read more on this sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #26

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