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86. Well not one, but two courts in CA have ruled otherwise

Reply to sarah FAILIN (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:38 PM

Feb 2018

Seems you're wrong.

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Tech billionaire, ordered to reopen public beach, appeals to supreme court [View all] turbinetree Feb 2018 OP

How dumb can people be to allow human beings to own DIRT Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1

Sure, who wouldn't want to spend their live farming but have strangers tromp over their crops, EX500rider Feb 2018 #49

oh. ok. Anon-C Feb 2018 #67

So you agree with the above poster who is against private property? EX500rider Feb 2018 #69

Not when MFM008 Feb 2018 #71

The poster I responded to is against ALL private property judging by the post EX500rider Feb 2018 #72

I wholely agree with private property rights. No right is absolute and it's silly to equate... Anon-C Feb 2018 #73

I was solely responding to a "no personal property" post if you didn't notice. EX500rider Feb 2018 #79

The rich consider themselves superior to us common folk dhol82 Feb 2018 #2

I think I agree with him in theory sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #3

It wasn't always his property. The property was stolen from the original owners. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2018 #5

The Indians??? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #12

Theres an easement. Codeine Feb 2018 #14

It could be done away with. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #17

We handle public beach access differently in California. Codeine Feb 2018 #18

Which I guess is why he didn't ask the state to vacate the road sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #21

Why would opening the road rusty fender Feb 2018 #52

The past owner had charged people for that sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #63

So it isnt a requirement of CA law rusty fender Feb 2018 #70

I'm not. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #74

Theres an existing easement for the road rusty fender Feb 2018 #76

They were parking on his property, not just driving through it sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #78

Excuse me, but not one poster on this thread can match the number of unsubstatiated... Anon-C Feb 2018 #77

I looked up a couple of articles on it. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #80

i read that last night when this thread started, yes, this is not about parking and toilets... Anon-C Feb 2018 #82

Depends on the terms treestar Feb 2018 #88

Then it's simple treestar Feb 2018 #87

Do like Oregon. Make ALL beaches public. It is disgusting they try to keep people out of beaches. blake2012 Feb 2018 #8

This JDC Feb 2018 #10

You can always get there sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #13

My wholehearted hope is he loses in court blake2012 Feb 2018 #34

Well not one, but two courts in CA have ruled otherwise kcr Feb 2018 #86

In California all beaches ARE public MurrayDelph Feb 2018 #43

The state merely wants him to apply for a permit to restrict public access Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #9

This is what he should have done from the statt. sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #15

The guy bought the property knowing the public had access. Mariana Feb 2018 #20

Sorry, I disagree sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #23

No. Property rights do not always trump tradition. MineralMan Feb 2018 #39

Who said I was a "progressive"? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #51

My error. Whatever you say...you're not a progressive, then. MineralMan Feb 2018 #53

Not at all sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #59

You don't know all the laws there. MineralMan Feb 2018 #64

That is what I just said, I don't know all their laws sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #68

you admit you dont know the laws but keep insisting that the result has to conform to what you think CreekDog Feb 2018 #95

Who said you were a progressive? Probably nobody CreekDog Feb 2018 #98

You can't own the SAND. Cha Feb 2018 #96

True. Here today; gone tomorrow... MineralMan Feb 2018 #97

You keep making factually incorrect statements. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #84

But he needs a permit for that Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #40

I looked at other stories sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #48

I have news for you - the people own the beach. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #45

The people may own the beach sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #58

You seemed to be in agreement that an easement is valid if the Easement grantee owns the property Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #85

Then he can move. It's not like he doesn't have the means to do it JI7 Feb 2018 #11

Or people could go to another beach sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #19

You clearly know nothing about surfing. Atman Feb 2018 #31

Why can't they get there? sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #75

It is the only access to the beach. DLevine Feb 2018 #81

It's Not his beach. Most beaches in the US are NOT owned Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #41

Wish the state of Washington had all beaches public, here you can own the beach down to Canoe52 Feb 2018 #54

of course you agree with him CreekDog Feb 2018 #28

Thanks for the insight CreekDog. n/t seaglass Feb 2018 #30

great post! Brings out some VERY INTERESTING FACTS TY! bluestarone Feb 2018 #33

+ JI7 Feb 2018 #42

I figured as much. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #46

yes, cjeekdgg! CreekDog Feb 2018 #47

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #60

Oh dear... Tatiana Feb 2018 #93

I'm glad he keeps losing. The coastline doesn't belong to him and if he doesn't like then he should tenderfoot Feb 2018 #56

He won the first time sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #61

the Pittsburgh Steelers also won the first game of the playoffs CreekDog Feb 2018 #91

Sorry American Oligarchs. You f'ers need to learn to share. democratisphere Feb 2018 #4

They feel superior and above the law. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #6

Recently it looks like many of the American and Russian Oligarchs democratisphere Feb 2018 #7

Can I come to your house sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #16

if the documents I signed say you can pitch a tent Mariana Feb 2018 #22

Read the previous post sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #24

Absurd. It is all about right of way access to the ocean beach front. democratisphere Feb 2018 #27

He could put up No Trespassing signs, or even... Atman Feb 2018 #32

Thank you Atman! democratisphere Feb 2018 #38

There is a fence in the pics sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #65

The past owner had been charging for parking and use of the "facilities' sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #62

No Trespassing Signs eliminate the liability. democratisphere Feb 2018 #94

This sounds shady to me. Captain Stern Feb 2018 #25

I've just read more on this sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #26

thanks for posting the conservative opinion on the applicability of environmental laws CreekDog Feb 2018 #29

Way to hold people accountable to truths blake2012 Feb 2018 #36

Thank you for all the refreshing insight in this thread ChubbyStar Feb 2018 #37

The current ruling isn't in favor of the property owner...that's the whole reason he's appealing. Captain Stern Feb 2018 #89

Waterfront access disputes are not new Johnny2X2X Feb 2018 #35

You guys HAVE heard of the Public Trust Doctrine, right? Dread Pirate Roberts Feb 2018 #44

Has the supreme court agreed to hear the case? nt LAS14 Feb 2018 #50

No. And they most likely won't. nt Captain Stern Feb 2018 #90

lordy lord--at first glance I thought it was Obama.......... riversedge Feb 2018 #55

sorry, but pic willl not transfer for me. riversedge Feb 2018 #57

Vinod is a jerk. Owl Feb 2018 #66

He is scum California_Republic Feb 2018 #83

Deplorable. Baitball Blogger Feb 2018 #92