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summer_in_TX

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62. "I wonder why these kids are heard when BLM has been saying essentially the same thing"
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:35 PM
Feb 2018

I'm troubled that BLM didn’t get lots of support. However, other school shootings, the Sutherland Springs one and the Las Vegas shootings didn't trigger this effect either.

I think there are factors that made this take off in a way that BLM couldn't. The sheer number of kids who experienced the attack at once, because of the fire alarm getting them out of their classrooms and then it being a semi-automatic weapon.This group of students being minors but at the young adult stage of life in their ability to speak and organize. The clear case for them being innocent. The video and texts during the attack were one critical factor, because seeing it made it viscerally connect as we could imagine it being our kids, teachers, friends, us.

Somehow they knew that if they could just channel their fear and righteous anger to bring something good out of all the horror and tragedy, that it would help them and all the others dealing with shock, grief, and PTSD or other symptoms of trauma.

The kids’ response has been exceptional. Stoneman Douglas clearly has a large number of kids who have speech and especially debate experience, have had to frame issues for maximum acceptance. They've done a lot to keep the message focused on saving other kids' lives, which evokes a protective response in everyone who has been a mom, dad, or grandparent. They've mostly refrained from attacking those in a position of power like Trump.

It's a delight to watch the entrenched evil power of the NRA start to cave in the face of such a clear emotionally and morally righteous argument. It has caught the hearts and imagination of most of the country, galvanizing a fresh look at a previously intractable situation.

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He is so articulate and informed Neurotica Feb 2018 #1
We, the passive, jaded and defeated, look to youth to save us. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #12
Yes its time to move aside for a younger, more hopeful and sensible generation. Pepsidog Feb 2018 #23
Perhaps it's location... lambchopp59 Feb 2018 #52
Very well said. I agree Pepsidog Feb 2018 #57
Gen Xers love him here loyalsister Feb 2018 #65
I think "our generation" protests accomplished a lot. Some successes maybe didn't FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #25
We did accomplish a lot...civil rights, social programs, anti-war...half of the generation. brush Feb 2018 #40
Agreed. Let's do what we can! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #66
When we were young the existential threat to us was the draft; The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #32
Yes, way mature beyond his years onetexan Feb 2018 #70
Watching... he is an impressive young man. demmiblue Feb 2018 #2
Ha - I imagine they'll give up when they're dead. Maybe that's all that matters. jmg257 Feb 2018 #3
He's fantastic greymattermom Feb 2018 #4
The best part of his argument is the fact that he was on the wrong end of an AR15 hydrolastic Feb 2018 #22
Ryan, you are doing a wonderful job. Just breathe. demmiblue Feb 2018 #5
(...and stay off of small planes.........) lastlib Feb 2018 #48
Marjory Stoneman Douglas would be proud that her name is on this school and the students from there Pachamama Feb 2018 #6
I agree. I wonder how much they learn about her. TNNurse Feb 2018 #15
We could learn so much from this articulate young man. democrank Feb 2018 #7
Sounds like a good answer to Charlton Heston's gun rant mucifer Feb 2018 #8
He has 210K followers on Twitter greymattermom Feb 2018 #9
Most kids today lead fearless lives. yallerdawg Feb 2018 #10
The NRA crowd is afraid of him. That is why they are trying to discredit him. lkinwi Feb 2018 #11
He should change that to: "We will live long enough to take the guns Aristus Feb 2018 #13
We need to have their backs pandr32 Feb 2018 #14
I know I'm getting old but I'm so glad to see young people like this coming along blueinredohio Feb 2018 #16
I just hope that nothing happens to him vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #17
Great kid! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #18
Is it just me? SCVDem Feb 2018 #19
Hope for sure. Freedomofspeech Feb 2018 #20
Did you hear the two young men directly take on FedEx DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #21
I did not hear it but have read that @FexEx is resisting riversedge Feb 2018 #28
I called ebay and told them they need to drop them as a shipping option UpInArms Feb 2018 #58
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2018 #30
He's runs the TV media section at SD malaise Feb 2018 #24
The NRA Just Became The Enemy of a Generation of Younger Americans riversedge Feb 2018 #26
THIS !!!! I pray it continues, the NRA has been poison to US culture and they take Russian ... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #31
The NRA reminds me of the cigarette lobby ... who basically said that ... SWBTATTReg Feb 2018 #35
And now is the time. past time I know but the mojo has landed! riversedge Feb 2018 #38
Thanks rivers! Cha Feb 2018 #53
What I would say to media - get some constitutional scholars on to discuss 2nd amendment, stop it Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #27
Well its true... Historic NY Feb 2018 #29
Hes painted a target on his back. Aviation Pro Feb 2018 #33
Yes, I hope he wears a bullet-proof vest MountCleaners Feb 2018 #56
They ALL have gumption. The NRA is poking at the wrong hornets' nest. George II Feb 2018 #34
More Universities and Colleges need to hold NoMoreRepugs Feb 2018 #36
Wow wryter2000 Feb 2018 #37
Is he really going after the 2nd Amendment or was that your shorthand? aikoaiko Feb 2018 #39
He's going after 2nd Amendment SUPPORTERS TheDebbieDee Feb 2018 #43
I'll have to catch the video. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #41
That was one heck of an interview and it's already on YouTube eleny Feb 2018 #42
I'm now officially calling him Boss Hogg. ;-) CaptainTruth Feb 2018 #45
False dichotomy- you can be a 2nd amendment suppporter and still support stringent controls - there Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #47
it needs to be updated so ASSHOLES can understand Skittles Feb 2018 #49
Well, yeah, theres that - in the meantime nra does not get any cred as Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #50
YES! 2left4u Feb 2018 #61
What an amazing young man NastyRiffraff Feb 2018 #51
I am so impressed by this kid! dhol82 Feb 2018 #54
He said that about people who are claiming the students are being paid by Soros. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #55
You fd up...Give the new generation a chance. oxbow Feb 2018 #59
can we replace wolfie w/him NOW?!? pansypoo53219 Feb 2018 #60
"I wonder why these kids are heard when BLM has been saying essentially the same thing" summer_in_TX Feb 2018 #62
smart young man krakfiend Feb 2018 #63
Let's help them. Lifelong Protester Feb 2018 #64
Does everyone on this thread fully endorse his position? Straw Man Feb 2018 #67
No. They should be banned. They are battlefield weapons. n/t rainin Feb 2018 #71
So you think his position is too weak? Straw Man Feb 2018 #72
You are correct that my position goes beyond David's. n/t rainin Feb 2018 #73
Based on his stated position ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #74
Absolutely! n/t rainin Feb 2018 #75
So AR-15s are OK except for the mentally ill? Straw Man Feb 2018 #76
I'm not running for office, so I answered your question as asked. rainin Feb 2018 #78
No, you didn't. Straw Man Feb 2018 #79
I think I did, but I'll try one more time. rainin Feb 2018 #80
So ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #81
Incremental steps as I explained. The tide is turning. Change is coming. n/t rainin Feb 2018 #82
So when gun control advocates pooh-pooh the "slippery slope" ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #83
Once you argue "slippery slope", you've lost the argument. That's why it's called a logical fallacy. rainin Feb 2018 #84
Nope -- that's a misconception. Straw Man Feb 2018 #85
You can follow him on Twitter.. yuiyoshida Feb 2018 #68
I looked up "impressive" in the dictionary. gristy Feb 2018 #69
Excellent.....I hope he's offered a job with MSNBC right out of college...n/t Upthevibe Feb 2018 #77
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