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In reply to the discussion: David Hogg shares fellow students plan for gun control on Twitter [View all]Straw Man
(6,951 posts)98. That's obvious.
It would seem to me that anyone who IS a responsible gun owner would be responsible enough to do this, to see the need.
To see the need for what? The revocation of a fundamental right, dressed up as a moral imperative and presented as the only possible solution to a phenomenon that screams "Failed society!" out loud? Bullshit. I am a gun owner, but I am not responsible for the creation of Dylan Roof and Nikolas Cruz. I am answerable for my behavior and ONLY my behavior.
The collective-guilt trip is the same old Catch-22: "If you gun owners won't stop buying those things, we'll have to ban them, and it'll be your fault." Please. The warped logic is plain.
Let me repeat: with 80 million gun owners and 33,000 gun deaths per year, 99.96% of gun owners are behaving responsibly in any given year, i.e. not killing themselves or others. Are these people supposed to be infiltrating gangs to thwart murder plots? Trolling the Internet for potential school shooters to interdict? Volunteering on suicide crisis hotlines? Would that satisfy your demand that responsible gun owners do something about the problem? I can tell you right now that the average gun owner has no desire to advocate for new and higher hoops that he/she will then have to jump through despite not being the source of the problem in the first place. But that's what you want, isn't it?
Remove one weapon and another will be substituted. The human mind is endlessly creative. Here's a question: What was the weapon that produced the largest death toll of any single attack in modern American history? Answer: a can of gasoline. It killed 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx, NY, in 1990.
Ask yourself why increasing numbers of Americans want to waste as many of their fellow humans as they can. That's the REAL question.
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Maybe it is time we start listening to urban youth instead of rural elders on guns.
LonePirate
Feb 2018
#2
" Be it by gun, baseball bat, 9 iron, car, or swimming pool. Life is full of risks."
pangaia
Feb 2018
#103
Could be one reason why this is merely an outline rather than an actual law.
LanternWaste
Feb 2018
#14
Excellent idea. More exposure! And the NRA can stand up its strawmen in the debase.
erronis
Feb 2018
#41
Yes....there should be insurance. Why are gun owners not liable for their guns?
Kirk Lover
Feb 2018
#10
No. A lawsuit against an uninsured/judgment proof gun owner isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#20
But the NRA isn't really representing anyone except money launderers and the GOP recipients.
erronis
Feb 2018
#44
I dont buy into the insurance is not for intentional crimes argument against insuring guns.
ooky
Feb 2018
#46
Why does it need to just have deterrent value to the shooter to be a viable option?
ooky
Feb 2018
#65
Or charging gasoline tax or making childless couples pay real estate taxes, or charging....
marble falls
Feb 2018
#100
You don't think gas taxes or license requirement interfere with the right to free movement...
marble falls
Mar 2018
#106
Owning a gun isn't an explicit Constitutional right, either, joining "a well regulated militia" is.
marble falls
Apr 2018
#116
That's a fundamental principle of insurance. You can't wish it away, and 'study it'.
X_Digger
Feb 2018
#73
The fundamental principle is that you can't cover an intentional act (by the covered).
X_Digger
Feb 2018
#80
For the past 20 years we have seen a steady liberalization of gun laws in America
hack89
Feb 2018
#16
I'm waiting for a great American university to give this kid a full scholarship
onetexan
Feb 2018
#18
It's a beginning point for negotiation. I see it as rather modest as first offer seeking compromise
flamin lib
Feb 2018
#34
With only minor differences this is how the Military treats guns. They seem to know a lot about gun
flamin lib
Feb 2018
#36
Not to be picky, but everyone submits to these obvious regulations...
IllinoisBirdWatcher
Feb 2018
#68
What did you want. Insistence on registration only if one plans on using it on the public.
boston bean
Feb 2018
#81