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In reply to the discussion: My INALIENABLE Rights TRUMP Your SECOND Amendment Rights. [View all]disidoro01
(302 posts)fails because while anti-gun rights pool owners may be able to secure their pool, you can't secure the pools of others. Law abiding gun owners do secure their weapons, they can't make others do so. This nonsensical and hateful attack on law abiding gun owners is really a key reason why no changes will be made. References to toys, to penises, gun-nuts. People, this may be they way you talk about your friends and families but when dealing with other adults, you also should behave like an adult. No one in this forum killed innocent people, why are you attempting to pigeon hole them as murderers or at the very least accomplices?
You don't like guns, I get this. You will never take them away from the american citizenry, you will never put prohibitive taxes on them. Do something useful come to the table and discuss the issue of gun violence rationally.
Lets also discuss lax mental health laws that allow this kind of violence. Europe has more stringent standards, allowing the detention of individuals against their will for long periods of time to ensure treatment even if the person doesn't want treatment. Is being mentally ill and possibly a danger a crime? I don't think so but I think to look at gun violence without a hard look at mental illness treatment options is wrong.
I have never fired my guns at a person or in anger, why call me an accomplice to murder? I will never work with you to reduce violence if this is how you feel about me. You will never get any changes put forward if this is how you talk about gun owners. We will just double down against your proposed changes and we will win. Stop fantasizing that you are actually going to do anything with this kind of vitriol.
Are we clear?