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Major Nikon

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13. That is true for some feminists

Reply to Tansy_Gold (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 06:30 AM

Jan 2012

There is no question that violence against women is epidemic in this country, but some radical feminists have made such wildly riduculous claims, and even though radical feminism represents a smaller segment of feminism as a whole, it has tainted the view of feminism for many and as such has been counterproductive to its goals.

""Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman."
-- Andrea Dworkin

"Intercourse is the pure, sterile, formal expression of men’s contempt for women; but that contempt can turn gothic and express itself in many sexual and sadistic practices that eschew intercourse per se."
-- Andrea Dworkin

So although Dworkin wasn't calling all men rapists, she was calling the whole of western heterosexual men rapists.

http://reason.com/archives/2005/04/19/womans-hating

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Further proof we live in a Rape Culture> [View all] Survivoreesta Jan 2012 OP

This is a piece I thought was quite good: PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #1

It's embarrasing to be a man sometimes , orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #2

breath of fresh air. thank you seabeyond Jan 2012 #3

Rape jokes are no laughing matter Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jan 2012 #5

That is true for some feminists Major Nikon Jan 2012 #13

Equating all feminists with Andrea Dworkin Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #14

Many did, and that's the problem Major Nikon Jan 2012 #16

And I would say that you were contributing to that problem Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #21

in ALL my years i never heard one woman say all sex was rape. never. heard. one. woman say it. BUT seabeyond Jan 2012 #24

When I read "Intercourse" by Dworkin, I did get a little different message than you Nikia Jan 2012 #28

that is exactly what that poster was saying. only men defended him saying he was not saying all seabeyond Jan 2012 #17

Yes DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #12

Not trying to deny the "men's culture" that exists. randome Jan 2012 #22

here is the problem. this is not mere "horrible behavior". it is an undercurrent seabeyond Jan 2012 #25

Statistically your post is bullshit. Depending on the study, approximately 25% of women are raped riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #27

needs pinning at top of Forum getdown Jan 2012 #6

We live in a patriarchy and it permeates every facet of our lives riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #7

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Odin2005 Jan 2012 #8

I can't truly imagine how a Woman feels that is raped. It brings up... BlueJazz Jan 2012 #9

I would disagree with you generalization of title for the thread jimlup Jan 2012 #10

Of course men are oppressed in our society -- thanks to the very patriarchy that oppresses Remember Me Jan 2012 #11

Suggested reading and viewing Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #15

this shot of the video is another point. for a year or two, i have noticed many videos seabeyond Jan 2012 #19

No, I have no control over what's shown in the imbedding. Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #23

interesting. i wonder if that is true with all embedding, and it is always a provocative shot of seabeyond Jan 2012 #26

by the way, i watched this before. she is very good. the video is very good. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #20

"naive" getdown Jan 2012 #18

Just posted this in LBN> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #29