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matt819

(10,749 posts)
30. Here's a question
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 02:54 PM
Mar 2018

Obviously, the "just joking" defense is ludicrous.

Also, obviously, if she was asserting these vile beliefs in the classroom, she deserves to be fired.

Let's say she kept her personal views out of the classroom, and to her classroom she was just the lovely Miss Dayanna.

Outside the classroom she's a white nationalist. Or a black panther. Or a zionist. Or a communist. Or a radical catholic. Or a presbyterian. But all of that is outside the classroom. Otherwise, she's a darn good teacher. Top marks from students and their parents.

So, the questions:

If her views outside the classroom are private, i.e., not know publicly, she obviously wouldn't be fired; no one knows about them.

If her views outside the classroom are public, as they are in this case, should she be fired, as she has been? Or was this unfair? Also, apart from the vileness of her views, what are the terms under which she was fired? For example, you could be fired from some -jobs if you are found guilty of moral turpitude. (From the intertubes: Moral Turpitude. A phrase used in Criminal Law to describe conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty, or good morals. Crimes involving moral turpitude have an inherent quality of baseness, vileness, or depravity with respect to a person's duty to another or to society in general.) With a so-called president who is a white supremacist, the issue of moral turpitude, which used to have a fairly unchanging definition, now seems to be on a sliding scale. So on what basis was she fired? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. One man's white supremacist is another man's patriot. We are at a dangerous crossroads here.

IMHO, the school was right to fire her. If she could be forced to wear a scarlet swastika, I'd support that.

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So when her job is on the line, the courage of her convictions goes out the window Siwsan Mar 2018 #1
The old " it was just a joke" excuse mcar Mar 2018 #4
They are gob-smackingly predictable Siwsan Mar 2018 #9
Next is the god has forgiven me cycle Fullduplexxx Mar 2018 #16
You know that's coming mcar Mar 2018 #18
And not too smart, as if parading that racist crap online wasn't going to be traced. brush Mar 2018 #33
I guess she did nazi this coming underpants Mar 2018 #2
Ha! mcar Mar 2018 #5
Can we turn back the clock to a time when Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #24
I am all for those "good old days" mcar Mar 2018 #43
Yeah, a lying liar will lie about anything Bettie Mar 2018 #3
Nor anywhere near children mcar Mar 2018 #6
so she acted like a whjte supremist, she talked and walked like one and now busted.... beachbum bob Mar 2018 #7
and they want to arm teachers? Racist teachers will be dangerous SummerSnow Mar 2018 #8
She already admitted to have a history of lying about her actions and intents. dalton99a Mar 2018 #10
I was just joking Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #11
This is the Alex Jones defense - "I was playing a character!!" bullwinkle428 Mar 2018 #12
The deep state made him say that! Etc. Etc. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #27
Yeah, so sorry, too bad Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #13
Pretty sure that someone whose "hobby" is "exaggerating" white supremacist views for "satire" WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #14
Satire? Sure... IluvPitties Mar 2018 #15
dont think she thought this through. mopinko Mar 2018 #17
How did she not think she would be caught? mcar Mar 2018 #19
She probably figured that when she did get liberalhistorian Mar 2018 #21
Not very smart in the first place to be a Cha Mar 2018 #41
Such arrogance, Cha mcar Mar 2018 #44
Sure, right, we'll believe anything you say! Initech Mar 2018 #20
Fuck you Dayanna ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #22
Satire, huh? gratuitous Mar 2018 #23
+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #26
Known as the Colbert/Klepper defense lame54 Mar 2018 #25
I wish someone would tell her "Of course it was satire. Just by looking at you it is obvious you lunamagica Mar 2018 #28
Satire my ass! sheshe2 Mar 2018 #29
Here's a question matt819 Mar 2018 #30
I think if it is shown one's views outside the classroom mcar Mar 2018 #32
"...a white nationalist. Or a black panther. Or a zionist. Or a communist." brush Mar 2018 #34
Take a look at it this way DonCoquixote Mar 2018 #31
Bullshit-conservatives are too stupid to understand or do satire Gothmog Mar 2018 #35
One wonders what her esteemed guests mcar Mar 2018 #36
"Let's eradicate the Muslims!" See? It was just a joke! Get it? ck4829 Mar 2018 #37
I guess that's just as good a defense as maxrandb Mar 2018 #38
Where's that crying Nazi? He might be useful to her right about now. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2018 #39
I call BS ReformedGOPer Mar 2018 #40
An excellent point mcar Mar 2018 #45
Har har. yellowcanine Mar 2018 #42
Bullshit MrScorpio Mar 2018 #46
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