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EffieBlack

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107. Youre not

Tue Mar 6, 2018, 08:39 AM

Mar 2018

These people don’t want a message - they want a slogan. But intelligent, complex policies don’t fit neatly into slogans,, which are geared for monolithic groups of people who are easily led.

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Joe Scarborough needs to shut his fucking mouth. [View all] SamKnause Mar 2018 OP

Amen. That's their platform, ideology, agenda, reason for being... zilch except that stuff. CurtEastPoint Mar 2018 #1

Joe's dense! And poses like a damn fool with his beady eyed stares. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #2

Joe Is A Conservative Thus He Opposes Everything Good About America PaulX2 Mar 2018 #38

And he's disgusting too! And definitely helped elect tRump and his bunch of losers. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #55

Hate to cut in line but here is a link to one of the studies that prove empirically Maraya1969 Mar 2018 #68

Yes. Joe is a conservative and ALWAYS works to elect cons. Hortensis Mar 2018 #81

No matter how much he hates #fakepresident we must remember he is not a friend Cary Mar 2018 #3

+1. MJ is no friend of Democrats dalton99a Mar 2018 #22

Describe what the message is... brooklynite Mar 2018 #4

And no matter what it is, it's getting drowned out in the latest Trump outrage anyway Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #5

Same as it has been for decades. Government done right is good for all of us Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #29

Point to someone hightlighting those point at the present time. brooklynite Mar 2018 #56

All of them, give them a camera and microphone. You are the big city party supporter, you Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #58

Thank you! True Blue American Mar 2018 #62

My response shouldnt be necessary HERE of all places, but that is how deep the Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #66

Im curious ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #51

You didn't answer the question, though. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #71

What's our message on tariffs? BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #6

Good point. Reality check. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #23

No playbook? Trump didnt win anywhere, that is all bullshit. Election stolen. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #31

Thats fine. What is the Democrats message? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #7

And who are the spokespeople delivering the message? FarCenter Mar 2018 #10

I've heard the Democratic "message" over and over. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #15

Ignore those who say there is no message or they dont know what it is, because they Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #33

Please say more Renew Deal Mar 2018 #40

Don't you love the implied criticism of what you may be? Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #42

I get the feeling from some responses that the message is "we have a message" Renew Deal Mar 2018 #47

Those are slogans, not messages EffieBlack Mar 2018 #86

Thats fine. So whats the Democrats message for 2018? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #90

I have no agenda. I think the Democrats have a wonderful message. I just don't think Squinch Mar 2018 #70

We don't suck at messaging. It's just that it's difficult to communicate the truth in a soundbyte EffieBlack Mar 2018 #87

You know who was a great messager? FDR is a great example. He communicated Squinch Mar 2018 #89

Yes, FDR was great at messaging. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #91

+1 BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #39

What is it? The message? Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #74

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #17

Bash Bash Bash Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #32

No doubt, the message can be difficult to locate if doing so invalidates a bias. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #36

Correct Renew Deal Mar 2018 #45

Just ignore him! imanamerican63 Mar 2018 #8

Joe and Mika are of average intelligence onlyadream Mar 2018 #9

Average intelligence at BEST; no wonder they used to be friends of tronald dump. flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #50

If it wasn't for people like Joe Trump would not now be in the White House Botany Mar 2018 #11

Do not forget Joe True Blue American Mar 2018 #18

Now they just slobber over each other. nt 7962 Mar 2018 #79

He has a valid criticism. They have MAGA and White Nationalism. What's ours? bitterross Mar 2018 #12

Our platform is simply "we f!#!$:@g care." Sorry, didnt mean to rude! George Lakoff RestoreAmerica2020 Mar 2018 #14

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #97

What are you talking about? betsuni Mar 2018 #101

Joe backed Trump 100% before the election True Blue American Mar 2018 #20

That is not the point NOW. Stop re-fighting the last election bitterross Mar 2018 #59

I have known the Democratic message True Blue American Mar 2018 #61

Being untruthful isn't helpful. He did not back Trump beginning in 2016 at all. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #72

The Dems Have a Message DownriverDem Mar 2018 #35

this floppyboo Mar 2018 #41

That's the platform. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #73

Joe was too stoopid to see drumph for what he was and helped elect him. BSdetect Mar 2018 #13

He should clarify himself Juliusseizure Mar 2018 #16

Don't forget DownriverDem Mar 2018 #28

still waiting... Raker13 Mar 2018 #19

Whenever Morning Joke criticizes Trump Dopers_Greed Mar 2018 #21

Wow.... And there you go! HenryWallace Mar 2018 #24

I know the Dem Party message DownriverDem Mar 2018 #26

What's the message then? Not the platform, the message? Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #44

What is it? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #48

you're not looking for a message... druidity33 Mar 2018 #63

Fine. So what's the message? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #64

In case you havent noticed HenryWallace Mar 2018 #69

It's not just Joe DownriverDem Mar 2018 #25

Youre not EffieBlack Mar 2018 #107

Ugh Bigredhunk Mar 2018 #27

What a great List!!! HenryWallace Mar 2018 #83

THANK you! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #108

I'm sick of them all... dajoki Mar 2018 #30

Complex solutions to complex problems don't lend themselves to simple "messaging". dawg Mar 2018 #34

You closed with 'clear choice'. I like that. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #102

Thats a slogan that doesnt tell anyone anything about Dems EffieBlack Mar 2018 #109

Joe and Mika are phony with their fake shock and awe SummerSnow Mar 2018 #37

'Ol Joe Couldn't See Through Trump's Racism Etc. PaulX2 Mar 2018 #46

I Have A Democratic Party Message Stop The Madness PaulX2 Mar 2018 #43

Scarborough's an asshole, but liberalnarb Mar 2018 #49

This. I mentioned this before. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #75

You know what they say about opinions... The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #52

He started his career as a foot soldier for Newt Gingrich's takeover of Congress. Bleacher Creature Mar 2018 #53

+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #57

"MAGA" was a Trump message, not RNC. MGKrebs Mar 2018 #54

Schumer actually named it last year: "A Better Deal." Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #78

GET A MESSAGE! Ok heres one. THAT SUCKS! GO TRY AGAIN, EffieBlack Mar 2018 #110

Sorry, but that's how it's done in the modern world. Has been for decades. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #113

If youre not around anyone who the message might be directed to, how do you know what does and EffieBlack Mar 2018 #117

He will always be Killer Joe to me Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #60

Walk away from the Joe & Mika Review. Paladin Mar 2018 #65

Eh, I like to see what Eugene Robinson has to say Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #67

I like the show. I watch it most weekdays. Good guests. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #76

I avoid Joe/Mika for the same reason I avoid Andrea Mitchell: Paladin Mar 2018 #111

You didn't watch it, so you don't know. They led the charge AGAINST him. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #112

Even if he is doing it all for ratings, it's still a fascinating watch Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #114

Scarborough feels how all the "normal" Repubs feel. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #115

Yup. And while I still consider them to be highly unwelcome, seeing how they're viewing things is Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #116

They arent good at messaging Thrill Mar 2018 #77

+1. Exactly. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #80

What do you really think about the GOP? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #82

They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced. SamKnause Mar 2018 #100

They believe in one party rule in a multi-party country. eom guillaumeb Mar 2018 #118

They're right. There's not a strong, cohesive msg being blanketed across the media."A Better Deal" Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #84

A Better Deal was actually an excellent message with lots of substance EffieBlack Mar 2018 #88

It was Democrats who rejected "A Better Deal." It was weak and meaningless. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #95

Lately, stuff I'm posting is getting picked apart. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #103

I fucking hate Joe. Glamrock Mar 2018 #85

A Better Deal wasn't a very strong name. summer_in_TX Mar 2018 #92

Honestly, the only person cutting through the noise is the Steyer guy ecstatic Mar 2018 #93

Well, I hate to step in the way of righteous indignation, but PatrickforO Mar 2018 #94

Perfect Summation! True Blue American Mar 2018 #96

Patrick, here's a site we can point interested people to... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #98

He says stuff like that to get reactions like this oberliner Mar 2018 #99

What he said was democrats never learn how to take advantage of republican missteps. njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #104

He and Mika... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #105

i know...it really bugs me but hes the only thing to watch when i get up at 3 am :( samnsara Mar 2018 #106

While I agree Joe is not a person to look to for accurate information Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2018 #119