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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
110. GET A MESSAGE! Ok heres one. THAT SUCKS! GO TRY AGAIN,
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 08:53 AM
Mar 2018

I’m a little tired of the nitpicking from the peanut gallery.

Maybe the Democratics, in our diversity and complexity, don’t lend ourselves to bumper sticker messaging. Perhaps WE as in individuals should take on some responsibility. Instead of demanding that the Senate Minority Leader come up with the perfect one-size-fits-all message that both captures complex policies and gives us all the warm fuzzies, perhaps we who think we’re so knowledgeable should be out in our communities explaining to our neighbors and friends why we’re Democrats and what the Democratic Party will do for them.

That’s how it used to be done before we started depending on the mass media to give us our messages. Now we take the lazy approach, demanding that our national leaders give us our marching orders and, if they’re not perfect in every way, we it back and blame them. NOT GOOD ENOUGH, CHUCK AND NANCY. GO DO BETTER.

Dammit, WE need to do better. Get our asses off our phones and out of our houses and go TALK TO SOMEBODY! THAT’s how you message!

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Amen. That's their platform, ideology, agenda, reason for being... zilch except that stuff. CurtEastPoint Mar 2018 #1
Joe's dense! And poses like a damn fool with his beady eyed stares. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #2
Joe Is A Conservative Thus He Opposes Everything Good About America PaulX2 Mar 2018 #38
And he's disgusting too! And definitely helped elect tRump and his bunch of losers. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #55
Hate to cut in line but here is a link to one of the studies that prove empirically Maraya1969 Mar 2018 #68
Yes. Joe is a conservative and ALWAYS works to elect cons. Hortensis Mar 2018 #81
No matter how much he hates #fakepresident we must remember he is not a friend Cary Mar 2018 #3
+1. MJ is no friend of Democrats dalton99a Mar 2018 #22
Describe what the message is... brooklynite Mar 2018 #4
And no matter what it is, it's getting drowned out in the latest Trump outrage anyway Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #5
Same as it has been for decades. Government done right is good for all of us Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #29
Point to someone hightlighting those point at the present time. brooklynite Mar 2018 #56
All of them, give them a camera and microphone. You are the big city party supporter, you Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #58
Thank you! True Blue American Mar 2018 #62
My response shouldnt be necessary HERE of all places, but that is how deep the Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #66
Im curious ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #51
You didn't answer the question, though. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #71
What's our message on tariffs? BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #6
Good point. Reality check. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #23
No playbook? Trump didnt win anywhere, that is all bullshit. Election stolen. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #31
Thats fine. What is the Democrats message? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #7
And who are the spokespeople delivering the message? FarCenter Mar 2018 #10
I've heard the Democratic "message" over and over. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #15
Ignore those who say there is no message or they dont know what it is, because they Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #33
Please say more Renew Deal Mar 2018 #40
Don't you love the implied criticism of what you may be? Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #42
I get the feeling from some responses that the message is "we have a message" Renew Deal Mar 2018 #47
Those are slogans, not messages EffieBlack Mar 2018 #86
Thats fine. So whats the Democrats message for 2018? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #90
I have no agenda. I think the Democrats have a wonderful message. I just don't think Squinch Mar 2018 #70
We don't suck at messaging. It's just that it's difficult to communicate the truth in a soundbyte EffieBlack Mar 2018 #87
You know who was a great messager? FDR is a great example. He communicated Squinch Mar 2018 #89
Yes, FDR was great at messaging. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #91
+1 BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #39
What is it? The message? Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #74
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #17
Bash Bash Bash Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #32
No doubt, the message can be difficult to locate if doing so invalidates a bias. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #36
Correct Renew Deal Mar 2018 #45
Just ignore him! imanamerican63 Mar 2018 #8
Joe and Mika are of average intelligence onlyadream Mar 2018 #9
Average intelligence at BEST; no wonder they used to be friends of tronald dump. flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #50
If it wasn't for people like Joe Trump would not now be in the White House Botany Mar 2018 #11
Do not forget Joe True Blue American Mar 2018 #18
Now they just slobber over each other. nt 7962 Mar 2018 #79
He has a valid criticism. They have MAGA and White Nationalism. What's ours? bitterross Mar 2018 #12
Our platform is simply "we f!#!$:@g care." Sorry, didnt mean to rude! George Lakoff RestoreAmerica2020 Mar 2018 #14
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #97
What are you talking about? betsuni Mar 2018 #101
Joe backed Trump 100% before the election True Blue American Mar 2018 #20
That is not the point NOW. Stop re-fighting the last election bitterross Mar 2018 #59
I have known the Democratic message True Blue American Mar 2018 #61
Being untruthful isn't helpful. He did not back Trump beginning in 2016 at all. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #72
The Dems Have a Message DownriverDem Mar 2018 #35
this floppyboo Mar 2018 #41
That's the platform. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #73
Joe was too stoopid to see drumph for what he was and helped elect him. BSdetect Mar 2018 #13
He should clarify himself Juliusseizure Mar 2018 #16
Don't forget DownriverDem Mar 2018 #28
still waiting... Raker13 Mar 2018 #19
Whenever Morning Joke criticizes Trump Dopers_Greed Mar 2018 #21
Wow.... And there you go! HenryWallace Mar 2018 #24
I know the Dem Party message DownriverDem Mar 2018 #26
What's the message then? Not the platform, the message? Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #44
What is it? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #48
you're not looking for a message... druidity33 Mar 2018 #63
Fine. So what's the message? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #64
In case you havent noticed HenryWallace Mar 2018 #69
It's not just Joe DownriverDem Mar 2018 #25
Youre not EffieBlack Mar 2018 #107
Ugh Bigredhunk Mar 2018 #27
What a great List!!! HenryWallace Mar 2018 #83
THANK you! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #108
I'm sick of them all... dajoki Mar 2018 #30
Complex solutions to complex problems don't lend themselves to simple "messaging". dawg Mar 2018 #34
You closed with 'clear choice'. I like that. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #102
Thats a slogan that doesnt tell anyone anything about Dems EffieBlack Mar 2018 #109
Joe and Mika are phony with their fake shock and awe SummerSnow Mar 2018 #37
'Ol Joe Couldn't See Through Trump's Racism Etc. PaulX2 Mar 2018 #46
I Have A Democratic Party Message Stop The Madness PaulX2 Mar 2018 #43
Scarborough's an asshole, but liberalnarb Mar 2018 #49
This. I mentioned this before. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #75
You know what they say about opinions... The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #52
He started his career as a foot soldier for Newt Gingrich's takeover of Congress. Bleacher Creature Mar 2018 #53
+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #57
"MAGA" was a Trump message, not RNC. MGKrebs Mar 2018 #54
Schumer actually named it last year: "A Better Deal." Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #78
GET A MESSAGE! Ok heres one. THAT SUCKS! GO TRY AGAIN, EffieBlack Mar 2018 #110
Sorry, but that's how it's done in the modern world. Has been for decades. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #113
If youre not around anyone who the message might be directed to, how do you know what does and EffieBlack Mar 2018 #117
He will always be Killer Joe to me Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #60
Walk away from the Joe & Mika Review. Paladin Mar 2018 #65
Eh, I like to see what Eugene Robinson has to say Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #67
I like the show. I watch it most weekdays. Good guests. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #76
I avoid Joe/Mika for the same reason I avoid Andrea Mitchell: Paladin Mar 2018 #111
You didn't watch it, so you don't know. They led the charge AGAINST him. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #112
Even if he is doing it all for ratings, it's still a fascinating watch Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #114
Scarborough feels how all the "normal" Repubs feel. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #115
Yup. And while I still consider them to be highly unwelcome, seeing how they're viewing things is Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #116
They arent good at messaging Thrill Mar 2018 #77
+1. Exactly. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #80
What do you really think about the GOP? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #82
They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced. SamKnause Mar 2018 #100
They believe in one party rule in a multi-party country. eom guillaumeb Mar 2018 #118
They're right. There's not a strong, cohesive msg being blanketed across the media."A Better Deal" Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #84
A Better Deal was actually an excellent message with lots of substance EffieBlack Mar 2018 #88
It was Democrats who rejected "A Better Deal." It was weak and meaningless. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #95
Lately, stuff I'm posting is getting picked apart. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #103
I fucking hate Joe. Glamrock Mar 2018 #85
A Better Deal wasn't a very strong name. summer_in_TX Mar 2018 #92
Honestly, the only person cutting through the noise is the Steyer guy ecstatic Mar 2018 #93
Well, I hate to step in the way of righteous indignation, but PatrickforO Mar 2018 #94
Perfect Summation! True Blue American Mar 2018 #96
Patrick, here's a site we can point interested people to... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #98
He says stuff like that to get reactions like this oberliner Mar 2018 #99
What he said was democrats never learn how to take advantage of republican missteps. njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #104
He and Mika... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #105
i know...it really bugs me but hes the only thing to watch when i get up at 3 am :( samnsara Mar 2018 #106
While I agree Joe is not a person to look to for accurate information Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2018 #119
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