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PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
38. Boo!!!
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 07:54 AM
Jan 2012

I had until now, maintained some respect for Nader's views and life's work as a consumer advocate; despite his actions in the 2000 election (of which I highly disapproved). But even that has gone out the window w/this news.

How the hell can he justify support for Ron Paul? To be fair, the blog points out that Nader has not formally endorsed Paul's candidacy. Furthermore, I don't disagree w/Nader's assertion that there are some views that progressives share w/libertarians. Problem here is that Ron Paul embraces his libertarian approach from the far right. That approach carries w/it all that is abhorrantly wrong with the right wing in this country. In fact, it is magnified in Ron Paul imo.

From a pragmatic standpoint, I support doing our best to pull as many far left, progressive, civil libertarians as we can back into OUR tent. Make the tent larger if we have to, but be sure they are made to feel welcome and appreciated. And not w/just lip service. This means compromise between mainstream Dems and the more liberal among us.

I think the biggest mistake the Democratic party has been making in the past 20 years or so, has been to take our more liberal members for granted, ignoring them even. We've moved farther right than we should have in order to appease fickle, center/right voters. The result? People like Nader feeling so disaffected, that they'd even consider an alliance w/the far right.

All of that said, the OP makes a good point here. Nader is doing the very same thing he condemned the Democratic party for, by even suggesting an alliance w/the fringe far right Paulies. Unacceptable, and hypocritical in the extreme imo.

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What took you so long? nt Union Scribe Jan 2012 #1
Why am I not surprised? nt Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #2
Dishonest, slanted article title. He never endorsed Ron Paul. Bonobo Jan 2012 #3
Does it make him any less of a scumbag? MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #4
Well for the purposes of this particular thread: yes. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #6
YES bahrbearian Jan 2012 #9
He all but endorsed him when he said, "Progressives should do so good." pnwmom Jan 2012 #11
Progressives should do so good. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #32
But he doesn't, does he? And Ralph Nader doesn't make that clear. joshcryer Jan 2012 #34
No. Not if that person was also willing to throw black people under the bus to make money, pnwmom Jan 2012 #35
A liberal candidate would not hold those positions... girl gone mad Jan 2012 #37
Of course I would. But not if that candidate's name was RON PAUL. pnwmom Jan 2012 #39
That's the title at Reason.com joshcryer Jan 2012 #14
this poster is OBSESSED with Nader fascisthunter Jan 2012 #18
Do you mean like Barney Frank co-sponsoring a bill bullwinkle428 Jan 2012 #5
OMG!! It's Nader.... Tiabbi... Greenwald... SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #7
I know where is the UNREC bahrbearian Jan 2012 #8
they all stink of the same BS MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #23
Yeah and you feel the need to discuss it SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #27
So DU is full of pro-Libertarian anti-rights pro-deregulation capitalists? joshcryer Jan 2012 #28
Good Post bahrbearian Jan 2012 #30
Nader must no longer give a shit about all those consumer safety regulations he helped... MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #10
Exactly, every one of Naders' consumer protections would be removed by Ron Paul. What the fuck. joshcryer Jan 2012 #13
HOLY SHIT. Libertarians like Ron Paul are NOT on our side on civil liberties. joshcryer Jan 2012 #12
They are NOT on our side for women's rights, or gay rights JerseygirlCT Jan 2012 #22
There's a big difference between big L and small l, but he's talking about Ron Paul's ideology. joshcryer Jan 2012 #24
Both Pauls claim to be libertarian in their views JerseygirlCT Jan 2012 #41
I have a suggestion for you, for when we can do custom avatars again Electric Monk Jan 2012 #15
Right On! fascisthunter Jan 2012 #19
Why keep the straight up lie going that Jane Hamsher mmonk Jan 2012 #16
Nader broke his promise to get someone to primary Pres. Obama Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #17
Haha! joshcryer Jan 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #20
Ron Paul is none of those things Nader claims. None of those things. He should know better. joshcryer Jan 2012 #25
It seems to me he may be showing signs of senility Electric Monk Jan 2012 #26
Now there's a match for some here made in DU heaven Gman Jan 2012 #29
Is Ralph Nader trying to throw the election to the republicans demigoddess Jan 2012 #31
Some tried to join together to defeat the FISA bill, too many in our party went along ... slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #33
That is bipartisanship, so it is different. Working hand in hand with the pukes is okay TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #36
Yes I forgot, there usually is a bone for the little people though :( n/t slipslidingaway Jan 2012 #40
Boo!!! PotatoChip Jan 2012 #38
Ralph Nader has been working with the GOP for years. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #42
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