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librechik

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83. no more gun shows. No more online sales. Purchase only from bonded licensed dealers with restictions

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:45 PM

Jul 2012

on buyers as follows: Test of safety and proficiency, liability insurance, age restrictions and mandatory background checks. No gun ownership with active DUI cases or violent incidents.
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Pretty much just like owning a car.

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My question to those who want to ban guns: How do you plan to "bell the cat?" [View all] Taverner Jul 2012 OP

Boy, the effort to ban/strictly control Tommy Guns was a complete flop too.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #1

Tommy Guns are not banned. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #12

Considering the last crime with one was before the ban in 1934... gregoire Jul 2012 #26

I'd rather see a discussion on what can be done rather than the tried and true rustydog Jul 2012 #2

rusty, by now you know that no amount of slaughter of Americans in the streets, homes and CTyankee Jul 2012 #24

"gummit"? You do know how idiotic that sounds don't you? rl6214 Jul 2012 #34

Sure they know how stupid it sounds.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #44

It's been a while but I think you are right with "gummint." I was recalling the old Pogo CTyankee Jul 2012 #60

So you're getting your material from old comic strips now? rl6214 Jul 2012 #71

Pogo had some good ones. "We have seen the enemy and they are us" was his most famous. CTyankee Jul 2012 #72

Of that 30K figure michreject Jul 2012 #37

Canada has a population of 34,844,096 and the U.S. has a population of 314,034,363 million. ... spin Jul 2012 #55

well for one MrDiaz Jul 2012 #57

I would like to see stats of the annual deaths GObamaGO Jul 2012 #65

I think you are using absolutes that don't exist to make an argument. upaloopa Jul 2012 #3

The Brady campaign, in their heyday, actually express such sentiment: OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #10

first time ive ever seen that, its scarey if that is the end goal. loli phabay Jul 2012 #40

While some of this is entirely reasonable.. sendero Jul 2012 #46

Let me see if I have this right guardian Jul 2012 #73

You have it wrong. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #76

Sorry guardian Jul 2012 #77

Perhaps, but I don't consider a national gun registry to be "gun control" Taverner Jul 2012 #17

I'm a gun owner (gun-nut, in fact) and l agree with you... OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #56

What other purpose would it serve? hack89 Jul 2012 #58

Cops, as much as I dislike them, should know if the occupant is armed or not Taverner Jul 2012 #67

Since they have no way of tracking violent felons with illegal (unregistered) guns hack89 Jul 2012 #69

Do some research on Google about how Canada's national long gun registry worked out. ... spin Jul 2012 #59

The Canadian Constitution does not have an equivalent to the 2nd Amendment Taverner Jul 2012 #66

So since meth laws don't get it off the street, we should drop those laws? JoePhilly Jul 2012 #4

I would say yes Taverner Jul 2012 #18

Would that include not supporting laws regarding driving while on various drugs? JoePhilly Jul 2012 #25

Nope because at that point it is not a victimless crime Taverner Jul 2012 #27

Actually now that you mention it. sendero Jul 2012 #47

Make owning a gun Politicalboi Jul 2012 #5

Sure, why not give the Prison Industrial Complex some ideas.... Pholus Jul 2012 #7

That won't work either Taverner Jul 2012 #19

Any legal solution in the US that involves building more prisons is a lousy solution. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #22

Fuck all that .. MicaelS Jul 2012 #23

Exactly.. sendero Jul 2012 #48

Do you wish another civil war or a revolution? ... spin Jul 2012 #62

I think such laws would concentrate guns in the hands of criminals who would use them. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #6

Your friend is commiting a federal crime. justanidea Jul 2012 #8

So is making bombs, meth, etc. Zalatix Jul 2012 #14

Yes he is Taverner Jul 2012 #15

Belling a cat is easy. Doing it with a break-away collar is not. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #9

What if you're a mouse tho? Taverner Jul 2012 #20

We get mice from time to time. They don't live long. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #53

Offer it a cheezburger? Ken Burch Jul 2012 #11

If we regulate wall street won't the traders just open up their own illegal market? Johonny Jul 2012 #13

Apples and Oranges Taverner Jul 2012 #16

I predict an edict of Homeland Security will be used to come after the guns Generic Other Jul 2012 #21

Are you insinuating that gun owners WOULD KNOWINGLY BREAK THE LAW? baldguy Jul 2012 #28

Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, look at Canada and their gun laws. RC Jul 2012 #29

And while you are at it.. sendero Jul 2012 #49

Thanks for more proof we need to look at Canada for how they handle fire arms. RC Jul 2012 #64

Or Massachusetts MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #51

One-Person Activism SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #30

I complely agree...nt and-justice-for-all Jul 2012 #31

depends where you live i suppose. where i am i see families out shooting all the time loli phabay Jul 2012 #33

Social Change SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #38

I dont agree, probuably as i have a use for my guns as do my neighbours loli phabay Jul 2012 #39

recreational drugs aren't "chic" anymore? LOL, somebody forgot to tell snooper2 Jul 2012 #74

How about banning manufacturing them, selling them, or transporting them? It would be a start. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #32

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #35

I can make a gun for under 10 bucks michreject Jul 2012 #36

That assumes you have a bullet. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #42

theres enough rounds out there to last for years, i wouldnt want to guess how many rounds people hav loli phabay Jul 2012 #43

A lot of guns out there are just heirlooms and people have no interest in ammo. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #45

I have components to make thousands of bullets michreject Jul 2012 #54

Then you know what I mean. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #78

"thus we will have no idea how many guns are really out there." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #41

They're gun owners....who really cares what they think. ileus Jul 2012 #50

We would never get them all quaker bill Jul 2012 #52

Brilliant! Shadowflash Jul 2012 #61

Just ban assault style rifles. Exempt existing guns out there, but mandate as immediate of a halt in Erose999 Jul 2012 #63

Pistols and shotguns are just as deadly as "assault rifles" Taverner Jul 2012 #68

how would you do this... belcffub Jul 2012 #80

Most people aren't going to advocate a total ban. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #70

There's a big difference between legislating against undesirable behavior vs. inanimate objects. LAGC Jul 2012 #75

So gun owners are cats and people without guns are mice? aquart Jul 2012 #79

You're reading way too much into the example Taverner Jul 2012 #81

Why "bell the cat"?? We have enough guns. Let's just shoot it! retread Jul 2012 #82

no more gun shows. No more online sales. Purchase only from bonded licensed dealers with restictions librechik Jul 2012 #83

Most of that is already the law slackmaster Jul 2012 #84

"liability insurance" - now that sounds like a good idea Taverner Jul 2012 #85

Locking SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #86