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vaberella

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125. Two things make him worthwhile?

Mon Jan 2, 2012, 09:00 AM

Jan 2012

While he rejects the rights of women, miniorities, and homosexuals. Fuckin' hell. He's not equal to any progressive or liberal I know and not even worth defending and yet I see you speak up for the man. Oy.

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Why is Glen Greenwald's name popping up all over the board tonight? [View all] bluestateguy Jan 2012 OP

He's running for President toddaa Jan 2012 #1

He criticised some of Obama's policies. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #2

yeah, that is the reason ...the ONLY reason Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #5

No, I distinctly remember him smearing progressives, while pumping Ron Paul. joshcryer Jan 2012 #6

How has he been "pumping" Ron Paul? baldguy Jan 2012 #22

Sure thing: joshcryer Jan 2012 #24

This is not pumping girl gone mad Jan 2012 #26

You are wrong. joshcryer Jan 2012 #28

Nope. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #30

b : to elicit by persistent questioning joshcryer Jan 2012 #34

What information is being elicited? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #43

Whether we can deny that Ron Pauls (fascist) views need to be heard. joshcryer Jan 2012 #45

That makes no sense. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #52

I added the fascist bit, otherwise the "persistant question" is... joshcryer Jan 2012 #56

That clearly doesn't meet the definition of "pumping". girl gone mad Jan 2012 #60

It absolutely does. You don't think that asking you to view 20 minutes of Ron Paul videos... joshcryer Jan 2012 #62

No, I do not.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #66

Oops, I thought you did, correcting... joshcryer Jan 2012 #69

+1 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #106

That's not the part that needs to be heard SixthSense Jan 2012 #89

"It�s perfectly legitimate to criticize Paul harshly..." baldguy Jan 2012 #33

So, that sentence completely destroys the entire rest of the article where he pumps Ron Paul? joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president," baldguy Jan 2012 #53

Never did that. joshcryer Jan 2012 #55

That's all you're doing. baldguy Jan 2012 #63

Nope. He's free to share his opinion. I'm free to share mine. joshcryer Jan 2012 #64

Not only is he not pumping Paul, you took that passage out of context. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #35

I posted the link so anyone can derive context. The passage is right after almost 20 minutes... joshcryer Jan 2012 #37

Pumping? Ummmmm.........no. Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #54

Um, yes. I explained it clearly and concisely. joshcryer Jan 2012 #57

Have Katrina Van Heuvel and Barney Frank, Dennis Kucinich among other Democrats, also been sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #95

Except none of them, to my knowledge, have called progressives simple minded. joshcryer Jan 2012 #102

Neither did Glenn Greenwald. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #105

He called out DUers. joshcryer Jan 2012 #108

I know what he did. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #109

Are you saying you don't think DUers are progressive? joshcryer Jan 2012 #110

Why are you asking me what I am saying when what I said sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #111

Well, you used a smiley face while acknowleding GG bashed DUers. joshcryer Jan 2012 #112

I hope you're not planning on ever becoming a lawyer. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #113

There are a lot of assumptions to be made from failure to object, too. joshcryer Jan 2012 #114

Failure to object to what? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #120

Certainly not all, some by there own self description and others who contend any action is progress. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #115

GG doesn't go as far as to say they're not progressive. joshcryer Jan 2012 #116

Didn't he refer specifically to someone calling him an "asshat?" Call that sophisticated, do you? DirkGently Jan 2012 #132

Search freshstart Jan 2012 #127

funny... most of us see something verrry different fascisthunter Jan 2012 #133

You omitted a TINY bit CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #59

Because attacking personalities is way easier than processing ideas. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #3

It's been on and off since GG smeared Progressives for dissing Ron Paul. joshcryer Jan 2012 #4

They 'dug' up nothing people who are familiar with GG did not know. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #97

The majority of Democrats knew he worked for the Cato Institute? joshcryer Jan 2012 #100

Yes, they did and they knew why. Do you? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #103

I don't belong to the Democratic Party. joshcryer Jan 2012 #107

The Obama apologists are in Purge mode. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #7

Maybe ProSense Jan 2012 #10

What are you in favor of? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #13

Citizen's United? War in Iraq and Afganistan? Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #21

And? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #25

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #31

What a bizarre comment. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #39

Do ProSense Jan 2012 #104

Why play dumb? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #119

You do know don't you, that there has been a disturbing effort to silence Greenwald. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #101

The quality of the response to your post brentspeak Jan 2012 #38

If you say so. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #41

I wouldn't care if Greenwald were called on logical inconsistencies. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #47

But that's where you got him wrong. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #71

Many people on the left lean Libertarian on certain positions. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #75

Do you understand what "criticism" is? And Greenwald has praised Obama, by the way. DirkGently Jan 2012 #130

Well ProSense Jan 2012 #27

I guess you aren't in favor of answering direct questions. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #32

Lol, that was a good one. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #99

Name them. You've been pushing this meme, back up your claims. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #12

He got a similar post hidden by the jury, probably just a bit of drama. Hope the next jury... joshcryer Jan 2012 #18

you'd love them to be banned, so there's your desire to purge fascisthunter Jan 2012 #134

It seems that the Greenwald apologists Summer Hathaway Jan 2012 #66

He claimed to be Elvis' long lost son. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #8

I hear he ate a kitten. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2012 #9

But, that kitten was a cage free, free range kitten, humanely put down. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #78

Greenwald and Paul must both be utterly destroyed.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #11

I noticed that as well....criticism of Obama from the left will not be tolerated Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #48

Ron Paul is from the left?! Really?! Fuck this shit. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #126

"Utterly destroyed"??? By posters on a message board? CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #61

Certainly not for lack of trying.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #68

Well, that's been the pattern of DU...the hot button of the moment CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #80

A woman breastfeeding her circumcised infant in the Olive Garden.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #90

Ron Paul is "from the left"? boppers Jan 2012 #74

In his criticism of the drug war and war in general he could be take that way, yes.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #76

Two things make him worthwhile? vaberella Jan 2012 #125

I, for one, resent the assertion that Ron Paul's ideology comes "from the left". MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #81

The anti-drug war portion certainly doesn't come from the Republicans or the conservatives.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #91

Who on that chart is to the right of Ron Paul? boppers Jan 2012 #93

The two on the chart who agree with the anti-drug war portion are Kucinich and Nader.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #94

Paul? As in Ron Paul? vaberella Jan 2012 #124

He's a surrogate punching bag, like all other progressives who stray from the Big Tent. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #14

Um... I guess you would have just re-populated the "pop" with this thread, then? MrMickeysMom Jan 2012 #15

RW spin 101 baldguy Jan 2012 #16

He won American Idol cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #17

Because he's promoting Ron Paul geek tragedy Jan 2012 #19

How? baldguy Jan 2012 #23

But he isn't being criticized specifically for "promoting Ron Paul".. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #50

In their misguided defense of Obama, they go out of their way to kill the messenger. baldguy Jan 2012 #79

Sneaky of him to say, "I am not �endorsing� or expressing support for anyone�s candidacy" DirkGently Jan 2012 #82

He demonizes Obama as a hideous monster but heaps geek tragedy Jan 2012 #96

Wow. Project much? This is the partisan mindset Greenwald warned about. DirkGently Jan 2012 #131

This is why I miss GD and GD:P from DU2. neverforget Jan 2012 #20

I dunno about that... CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #65

Exactly the opposite.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #70

+1 girl gone mad Jan 2012 #121

It's almost as though it was a coordinated attack on an outspoken progressive... ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #29

It's called blowback. joshcryer Jan 2012 #40

"hateful Ron Paul pumping screeds" girl gone mad Jan 2012 #51

The Greenwald fan club already views Obama as some kind of evil rapist geek tragedy Jan 2012 #98

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this is an old story that just won`t die madrchsod Jan 2012 #44

I've seen way worse. It's the Ron Paul defense force that brought it back. joshcryer Jan 2012 #46

Because people have been posting from his writings incessantly frazzled Jan 2012 #49

Yes, at first I didn't realize but it's become clear he's a Libertarian in sheeps clothing. joshcryer Jan 2012 #58

He's been re-convicted of criticizing the President. AND invoking the name of Ron Paul. DirkGently Jan 2012 #73

It's the 2012 DU version of 2004/2008 Ralph Nader campaigns Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #77

Precisely. I am personally outraged by the Ron Paul apologia I'm witnessing here. joshcryer Jan 2012 #83

Funny, I waded through a lot of these threads & didn't see that once. DirkGently Jan 2012 #84

He said Ron Paul's "views desperately need to be heard." joshcryer Jan 2012 #86

The views he referred to were "anti-war, pro-due-process, pro-transparency, anti-Fed, anti- DirkGently Jan 2012 #88

None of those views are supported by Ron Paul's *IDEOLOGY*, just barely his *RHETORIC*. joshcryer Jan 2012 #92

Lip service is a lot further than most will go and deregulation is worse than what we have now how? TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #117

How are his fake positions better than anyone elses? Merit more discussion than anyone elses? joshcryer Jan 2012 #118

Because his fakest positions all need to be real Democratic positions and they desrve to be hounded TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #128

Rhetoric would be a start. Again, one can separate ideas from people. DirkGently Jan 2012 #129

because vitriolic demagogues are controversial? nt killbotfactory Jan 2012 #85

I guess people like repeating the same damn thing DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #87

smearing and pumping seem to be Greenwald's crimes. piratefish08 Jan 2012 #122

He questioned executive branch powers mmonk Jan 2012 #123