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181. The Democratic Party fucked up in allowing Sanders to run as a Democrat

Sat Mar 10, 2018, 03:10 PM

Mar 2018

This should have never been allowed to proceed. I say this as a Sanders supporter and voter during the primaries. It seems they were Ok with the thought of having "controlled opposition" to help drum up support from progressives who identified with Sander's message. A safe fringe token candidate who wouldn't go far so was the general belief in those early days. Well the DNC, as always, misread their voters and he gained traction in an unanticipated way.

Now all I hear is sour grapes and regret. Bernie should go away. Blah blah blah. Well actions have consequences and the DNC opened the Pandora's box. I would respect the DNC more if they moved decisively to exclude him from any Democratic Party role. But until they do, he is here and here to stay.

In regards to respect for Trump supporters, well to hell with that. A supporter of Trump to me is an enemy of my values. A person who voted for Trump but not a supporter? Maybe there is some hope for that person, maybe they can be reached and deserve a modicum of respect but don't expect me to go out of my way for that Bernie.

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Bernie urges respect for Trump supporters [View all] dalton99a Mar 2018 OP

OMG Me. Mar 2018 #1

And The Earth Is Only 6000 Years Old PaulX2 Mar 2018 #32

The earth is 4.5 billion years old John Fante Mar 2018 #36

My Frirnd PaulX2 Mar 2018 #68

There's a big world outside the place where you grew up. John Fante Mar 2018 #70

That Is Not An Explanation PaulX2 Mar 2018 #73

Bernie is not a Dem; except when it might be to HIS advantage. democratisphere Mar 2018 #79

Bernie deserves a 2nd chance in 2020 after startin out 60 pts behind & refusing corporate $$$. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #156

The voters will decide. ehrnst Mar 2018 #195

Yes they will, as it should be... it's called democracy. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #199

They decided in 2016. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #200

Decided what? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #203

Who the Democratic candidate was going to be. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #204

You mean like they did in 2008? And second chances were given, rightfully so... same for 2020. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #206

2016 - by a much greater margin than in 2008. ehrnst Mar 2018 #286

Warren stated that she is not running for Pres. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #267

Democrats can be susceptible to pie in the sky. Adrahil Mar 2018 #84

Yep. Zoonart Mar 2018 #128

Good for you NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #158

Friends who are Bernie supporters ... LenaBaby61 Mar 2018 #182

My friends tell me the opposite. See how that works? :) pangaia Mar 2018 #234

My friends tell me the opposite. See how that works? :) LenaBaby61 Mar 2018 #240

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #285

Mahalo for that, Zoonart. nt Cha Mar 2018 #187

Good on you, Zoonart. nt sheshe2 Mar 2018 #268

Self awareness and critical thinking is indeed a gift ehrnst Mar 2018 #287

Actually, it is a great explanation. lapucelle Mar 2018 #86

How very dismissive.... kinda like Bernie... Adrahil Mar 2018 #130

It most Certainly is an explanation.. Cha Mar 2018 #196

Perhaps you could Google Bernie's party affiliation BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #219

It's not like he invented these ideas ehrnst Mar 2018 #289

Where is that? George II Mar 2018 #138

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Mar 2018 #167

Seems kinda dicey Hekate Mar 2018 #237

What does that have to do with the fact that she won by millions? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #177

Yeah. Blue_true Mar 2018 #246

PaulX2, SIX times the votes she did? Sorry, that's Hortensis Mar 2018 #282

Where was that? Can you provide some backup for that claim? ehrnst Mar 2018 #284

And denial is just a river in MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #85

Darn. I'm all out of peanuts. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2018 #87

I see what you did there treestar Mar 2018 #220

Hilarious...apples and oranges my friend. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #96

Too Wrong Me. Mar 2018 #123

t-rump Timewas Mar 2018 #2

I know.. And, what makes him think we should respect Cha Mar 2018 #14

You Mean Comrade Trump? Me. Mar 2018 #19

Hi Me! Cha Mar 2018 #23

... Me. Mar 2018 #120

But not the Democratic party which wronged him...apparently. No only Republicans Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #99

Exactly, Demsrule! Cha Mar 2018 #175

Please for gods sake tell me Bernie did NOT just say he was CHEATED in the primary? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #179

You just nailed it. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #269

Go home Bernie. You're drunk. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #3

+1000000000 BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #150

Not a very nice thing to say... please retract. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #205

This is DEMOCRATIC Underground. And last time I looked Sanders is not a Democrat. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #213

So, it's okay to speak of Bernie in derogatory terms, referrin' to him as drunk, after all he's done InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #218

All... he's... done... ? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #226

I do not agree saying he was drunk. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #270

I'm sorry. No! Va Lefty Mar 2018 #4

Shaking my head Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #5

"Bernie blames Hilary for Allowing Russian Interference" Cha Mar 2018 #6

No, Bernie. How about we reach out to real Democrats and make it easier for them to vote EffieBlack Mar 2018 #7

Indeed Me. Mar 2018 #9

Nailed it... SidDithers Mar 2018 #170

Exactly. Not a D, he did not get treestar Mar 2018 #221

Not his own party. There's no party for independents. More_Cowbell Mar 2018 #8

Nailed: "his own party" - Uh, no. UTUSN Mar 2018 #15

Thank you, Senator Sanders. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #10

Insulting Trumpscum Won't Help PaulX2 Mar 2018 #69

for sowing division among Democrats and urging respect for racist scum sucking Republican voters? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100

If you recall, even your favorite, HRC, said that not all Trump supporters were deplorable aikoaiko Mar 2018 #149

Yay for Trumpers! BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #153

meh. We need Americans to vote for Democrats. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #159

Hillary won by 3 million votes. Americans DID vote for Hillary. onecaliberal Mar 2018 #207

Lot of good that did us. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #211

Of you dont think it matters that millions more voted for us and we lost then youre missing the onecaliberal Mar 2018 #272

NOT HAPPENING MFM008 Mar 2018 #11

I am so sick of Bernie NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #12

Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #24

Me too...he is bitter and angry with the Democratic Party...he can't help himself. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #102

Texas can go blue melman Mar 2018 #13

Good on you for speaking up and KPN Mar 2018 #47

His words were not twisted...the "I know something about that" makes me see red...and the continuing Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #105

They cant let it go hueymahl Mar 2018 #165

Not exactly EffieBlack Mar 2018 #172

Fair point hueymahl Mar 2018 #290

You got that right! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #210

Does he urge respect for Hillary supporters? Just asking, because it would make today's comment... Hekate Mar 2018 #16

I missed that lecture. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #17

why wouldn't he? Why would he need to when most Sanders supporters actually voted for Clinton? JCanete Mar 2018 #22

But the ones who continued with their attacks WhiteTara Mar 2018 #91

again, the standard for such a statement would literally be him going out there JCanete Mar 2018 #143

"Thought through"? As a lifelong Democrat, it certainly was... Hekate Mar 2018 #227

They trump other concerns in mine too because all others are arrested by them. I'm sorry, JCanete Mar 2018 #276

Your paragraph 1: Imagine I have wage parity. Ludicrous, I know. But just suppose... Hekate Mar 2018 #277

Well Hekate, I said it wouldn't. I said it would take away some of the road-blocks so that JCanete Mar 2018 #278

What comment was that? Did you see it in KPN Mar 2018 #48

he doesn't care about respect for Hillary Supporters.. Cha Mar 2018 #56

That article, as excerpted, does NOT support the claim RandomAccess Mar 2018 #222

I have plenty of reasons to dislike BS.. starting with Cha Mar 2018 #224

What bullshit RandomAccess Mar 2018 #229

No, it's not bullshit. Deny it all you want.. doesn't Cha Mar 2018 #231

It's just factually incorrect. If that's fine with you, you've got a lot RandomAccess Mar 2018 #233

Bejayzus Hekate Mar 2018 #236

lol Cha Mar 2018 #238

he doesn't care about respect for Democrats. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #228

No he does NOT. Mahalo for Cha Mar 2018 #232

Not once not ever...in fact both he and Trump have blamed Hillary for the Russian interference in Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Mar 2018 #140

Or Democrats in general? George II Mar 2018 #141

+1, Bernie cant stand obama either BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #152

Yeah, I was just posting to someone Cha Mar 2018 #225

I don't know about Texas but in northern NJ tRump voters are racists. njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #18

They are here too. TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #55

Can we please be done with the Senator? Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #20

Yes, it is time. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #107

The title of your post is misleading. A turn of phrase can change the entire meaning of original diva77 Mar 2018 #21

The title is an accuarate summary of the quote. Stand and Fight Mar 2018 #25

Mahalo for that, Stand snd Cha Mar 2018 #26

Hahaha. Right. KPN Mar 2018 #49

And what about this? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #108

He never misses a chance to take a swipe, explicitly or implicitly. George II Mar 2018 #144

No surprise there... once again, Bernie NAILS it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #209

HIS party? RandySF Mar 2018 #27

No, not technically, but he caucuses with Democrats, so that makes him 1 for all intents & purposes. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #212

No, it doesn't. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #230

BS made his choice. He was a Democrat for a short season only, then went back outside the tent... Hekate Mar 2018 #235

Even before the convention convened he had already registered his re-election campaign committee... George II Mar 2018 #239

The people of America made their decision, Sanders, and it wasn't you lunamagica Mar 2018 #28

And? KPN Mar 2018 #50

It's in the OP lunamagica Mar 2018 #58

What the holey hell is he going on Cha Mar 2018 #59

Absolutely, Cha! Gaslighting much? Say it enough times and peope will buy it? lunamagica Mar 2018 #60

Sad! betsuni Mar 2018 #62

It's unfortunate that Russian bots are amplifying the same message. yardwork Mar 2018 #76

Yes! Now this explains the recycled conspiracy theories R B Garr Mar 2018 #135

The people of America did make the decision. lapucelle Mar 2018 #88

Oh, okay, I see. So he should keep his KPN Mar 2018 #94

Yes he should...it is unbecoming and does him no credit. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #109

Really? What he said was rather statesman-like. KPN Mar 2018 #114

There was never any such thing before Sen. Sanders...and maybe the 'outreach person' Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #115

He never "hinted" that it was stolen. KPN Mar 2018 #117

What does this mean? Show me where I have it wrong...seriously. I want to be wrong. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #121

Means he felt a district he didn't get delegates KPN Mar 2018 #126

But people vote...and in the end that is what counted...but it is another explantation and I am Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #127

And if it proves in the end that I am wrong KPN Mar 2018 #191

You've brought this up at least three times now. Do you understand what the his position is.... George II Mar 2018 #161

Really, three times. I wasn't aware. KPN Mar 2018 #197

Well, if you know what the job entails, why not enlighten us? George II Mar 2018 #216

Official Senate Democratic Leadership Page: Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #202

And? George II Mar 2018 #214

. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #274

I'm impressed, but didn't NBC stop using that 25 years ago? And? George II Mar 2018 #275

His opinion? This is not a matter of opinion. It s a FACT that Hillary was the American people's lunamagica Mar 2018 #146

He didn't say otherwise. You are KPN Mar 2018 #192

Here are the words from his mouth: lapucelle Mar 2018 #241

Wasn't his opinion that Hillary won fair and square? I kina remember him saying that... lunamagica Mar 2018 #148

He conceded, endorsed and supported Hillary ultimately. KPN Mar 2018 #193

Yes, that would be wonderful actually BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #154

I see. KPN Mar 2018 #194

BS always has an opinion.. just many people Cha Mar 2018 #262

Ask BS. He's the one who brought it up. N/T lapucelle Mar 2018 #92

Once again Ill point out that Bernie Sanders polled 91% here at DU Ron Green Mar 2018 #29

2016? herding cats Mar 2018 #33

this site was full of trolls JI7 Mar 2018 #37

But not now. Wonder how he'd poll today? KPN Mar 2018 #51

Depends on how many returnees show up. Depends on what question is asked. Hekate Mar 2018 #64

I hear "The Passion of the Bernie" is still playing over at JPR. betsuni Mar 2018 #71

This isn't about a crusade for Bernie. Geesh. KPN Mar 2018 #89

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. betsuni Mar 2018 #90

He talked alot...identity politics, negatively about Democrats and the Democratic Party... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #110

Really? I missed that. George II Mar 2018 #142

Many, if not most, of us are still here... go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #208

It is time for Bernie to retire if he doesn't think 45's supporters include racists and sexists. LonePirate Mar 2018 #30

I don't respect fascists nini Mar 2018 #31

Yes Trump supporters are racists and sexists and xenophobes ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #34

"Blerp blarp grarg white working class mumblemumble. identity politics rragh" Spider Jerusalem Mar 2018 #35

There are millions of left-leaning Americans who didn't John Fante Mar 2018 #38

They did in 2016 no? What would change now and why? KPN Mar 2018 #52

Trump happened. Blue_true Mar 2018 #251

Democrats that win did so because of Democratic Voters and New Voters JI7 Mar 2018 #39

I know my opinion is unpopular here, but I think Bernie is right on who should decide Sophia4 Mar 2018 #40

So, estrablished Democrats have no voice? leftofcool Mar 2018 #42

All should have a voice. That includes est[r]ablished Democrats. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #147

I'm with you Sophia... couldn't have said it better. Can't believe anyone would disagree... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #215

The voters did decide nini Mar 2018 #43

Your opinion is unpopular because it implies that the rest of us don't want that or that in the last StevieM Mar 2018 #45

It is always the voters...the Democratic Party is not going to hop a plane and replace Texas Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #111

How, exactly, did they "direct the voters" mcar Mar 2018 #137

I would advise people to reach out and listen to a Bernie voter on that topic. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #151

Certain voters have been repeating this tired talking point for some time mcar Mar 2018 #160

Reach out and talk about other issues like making college more affordable, Sophia4 Mar 2018 #169

I am president of my local Democratic Women's Club mcar Mar 2018 #173

Sophia. Blue_true Mar 2018 #260

Debbie Wasserman-Scultz held my hand and marked Blue_true Mar 2018 #257

Where's my cookie? mcar Mar 2018 #271

So many vote for Hillary, they must have run out. Blue_true Mar 2018 #273

And yet he travels all over the country campaigning for candidates. George II Mar 2018 #145

While bashing the Democratic party... Cha Mar 2018 #280

The voters decided in 2016. Hillary whipped Bernie soundly. nt Blue_true Mar 2018 #254

I will decide who I am nice to, no you or your wife or anyone else who supports you or Trump leftofcool Mar 2018 #41

Um, no, fuck that. Initech Mar 2018 #44

And his supporters had a problem with Hillary? Aristus Mar 2018 #46

How to make a controversy out of nothing 101. KPN Mar 2018 #53

+1 leftstreet Mar 2018 #57

#CluelessInVermont JNelson6563 Mar 2018 #54

I don't disagree with 1 thing said. He talks as an elder statesman should. No need for him to mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #61

Did you read the whole statement? He accused Hillary of stealing the election again. yardwork Mar 2018 #77

This! Adrahil Mar 2018 #83

No he didn't. You seem to have KPN Mar 2018 #101

He said he understood unfair treatment because he experienced...what pray tell did he mean? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #112

He meant unfair treatment. Big difference between KPN Mar 2018 #113

No, it is code for the primary was stolen...and that those in 'DC' made the decision. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #116

I disagree. We are at an impasse. Bye for now. KPN Mar 2018 #118

Fair enough. Have a great day. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #119

+1 KPN Mar 2018 #122

How was Bernie treated unfairly? yardwork Mar 2018 #176

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #198

I'm not interested in refighting the primaries. /nt yardwork Mar 2018 #223

The reporter who wrote the story drew the same inference lapucelle Mar 2018 #244

Oh it's Justified.. BS said this in the OP... Which is Wrong. Cha Mar 2018 #250

An "elder statesman" accusing Democrats and Planned Parenthood of being "establishment" betsuni Mar 2018 #78

Both Bernie and his son are always attacking Planned Parenthood. yardwork Mar 2018 #174

It's my opinion, too. Cha Mar 2018 #252

How about this: a little calculated gentleness for Trump regretters? moriah Mar 2018 #63

That's very reasonable, but Bernie has a legislative responsibility to make law ucrdem Mar 2018 #67

I don't disagree with that part of what Bernie said. yardwork Mar 2018 #74

You and I are on the same page here. nt stevenleser Mar 2018 #82

Agree entirely, yardwork. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #98

Zero tolerance for the goon who appointed Jeff Sessions. ucrdem Mar 2018 #65

He has said that in so many words many times. KPN Mar 2018 #103

Bernie Sanders on Jeff Sessions: "I'm going to listen to what [he] has to say..." ucrdem Mar 2018 #217

I'm not surprised. Trump and Bernie appeal to the same constituents. nt Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #66

Bingo! He obviously knows what the divisiveness was R B Garr Mar 2018 #132

That is why people that avidly support Bernie. Blue_true Mar 2018 #263

+1....nailed it BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #155

Bernie Sanders has never been a democrat. madaboutharry Mar 2018 #72

I can easily envision Jill Stein giving voice to most of his remarks... VOX Mar 2018 #75

"... his own party ... - what the heck does that mean? DrDan Mar 2018 #80

Nope nt tymorial Mar 2018 #81

One out of three. I guess batting .333 isn't too bad--if this were baseball. DFW Mar 2018 #93

This is why although I voted for Sanders in the Ohio primary, I will never vote for him in Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #95

So it is just fine to attack the Democrats and hint that you 'was done wrong' but Trump Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #97

How can you respect people who think Donald Trump is the answer ? Pity them perhaps. OnDoutside Mar 2018 #104

Fuck the deplorables and their sympathizers. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #124

You got that right! workinclasszero Mar 2018 #129

MAGAts be MAGAts NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #131

Oh sure the trumpers want to talk respectfully to POC too . Seen a lot of signs of that Bernie ? lunasun Mar 2018 #125

Someone turn off his microphone, please. His time has passed. PubliusEnigma Mar 2018 #133

Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Never would say Hillary's time had passed after she lost to Obama... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #201

No respect here Joediss Mar 2018 #134

Wow! mcar Mar 2018 #136

Hey bernie, when are you going to speak out about what Our Revolution did to Sri Preston Kulkarni? George II Mar 2018 #139

Bernie: we must respect America hating fascists and racists. BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #157

I don't respect for Trump voters. And I don't respect anyone who tells me I should. Nailzberg Mar 2018 #162

As far as I'm concerned, Bernie Sanders can take a seat. MineralMan Mar 2018 #163

At his age Bernie should be content sitting on his porch rocker and yell at kids walking on his yard onetexan Mar 2018 #164

Oh FFS... SidDithers Mar 2018 #166

These types of people put my kids' lives at risk. No and Fuck that. nt Quayblue Mar 2018 #168

Sanders occupies an insular world of wealth, power and privilege, not living with these MFers!!! FreeStateDemocrat Mar 2018 #171

BErnie cant really be saying he was cheated in the primary? Are we allowed to talk about Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #178

+1000! mcar Mar 2018 #180

The Democratic Party fucked up in allowing Sanders to run as a Democrat Devil Child Mar 2018 #181

I don't agree that the party made a mistake letting him run. Blue_true Mar 2018 #265

Going after trump supporters is a waste of time Gothmog Mar 2018 #183

I've read Texas is 51% Latino.. Cha Mar 2018 #185

Not quite but Texas is majority minority Gothmog Mar 2018 #186

Yes.. Texas needs to GOTV of DEMS! Cha Mar 2018 #188

There are a good number of strong Democrats working hard to turn Texas blue Gothmog Mar 2018 #189

And, you're one of them, Goth! Cha Mar 2018 #190

I don't disagree with him on the subject of needing to talk to at least some Trump supporters mythology Mar 2018 #184

Bernie respects everybody-he's just that kinda guy. jalan48 Mar 2018 #242

lol omg. Cha Mar 2018 #245

What can I say? jalan48 Mar 2018 #249

Not that.. because it's not accurate. Cha Mar 2018 #253

Yes it is-he's like Obama in that way. He looks for the best in others. jalan48 Mar 2018 #255

No, he isn't.. I've seen it.. so don't tell me Cha Mar 2018 #258

I like them both. jalan48 Mar 2018 #261

Bernie. Blue_true Mar 2018 #243

Hahahahahahaha ellie Mar 2018 #247

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #248

Respect has to be earned Bernie. Simple as that. riversedge Mar 2018 #256

Hey bingo, rivers! Cha Mar 2018 #281

Not everyone in this country belongs to a "Party". Lots of them. They are relevant. YOHABLO Mar 2018 #259

It's impossible for me to express NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #264

I only hope some of those that were honestly infatuated with him in 2016 Blue_true Mar 2018 #266

This is the ilk we're suppose to show respect.. Cha Mar 2018 #279

When you see people cheering at this rally despite obvious lunacy and hatred this man spews, Cha Mar 2018 #283

Respect is not automatic....it is earned. kentuck Mar 2018 #288