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In reply to the discussion: Re: Bernie: Lets try to be constructive. Talk about issues [View all]NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Discussions about no one are held to this strict and high of a standard. No one. The guy has been given special privilege after special privilege and now the scope of conversation about him is to be shrunk even further.
I have been accused of not discussing his ideas when I mention his purity with respect to visas has left tens of millions of people living under the radar without proper protections and truly living in fear. Three votes. Thats all that was necessary. I dont want to hear about the impact he could have as a leader all while listening to a line of excuses as to why he opposed a pathway to citizenship and didnt have the clout to sway two more people to change with him. How did that little old visa thing work out in the end, Sanders? I can tell you how those you opposed are doing.
Its all tied together and it is not possible to separate them. His lack of impact as a career politician isnt justified because he is solid on most of the issues. His opposition to a pathway to citizenship is not justified because he supports Medicare for all.
But the biggest flaw you present is wanting to talk about his ideas only. They arent his ideas. They are policy positions shared and promoted by many. That is completely accurate when viewed in the limited context that you want the conversation to be held at.
Lets talk single payer. Lets talk a pathway to citizenship. Lets talk prison reform. None of which are unique to Sanders.