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mountain grammy

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179. The general of course

Reply to pandr32 (Reply #176)

Sat Mar 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

Mar 2018

Do you honestly think if turnout was high elections could be manipulated like this one was?

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Re: Bernie: Lets try to be constructive. Talk about issues [View all] sharedvalues Mar 2018 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author GaryCnf Mar 2018 #1

Not to mention he was and is appointed KPN Mar 2018 #2

Issues :) sharedvalues Mar 2018 #3

There is nothing that happened in 16 that is worth 'learning from'...horrible loss which gave rise Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #4

now that is kind of a ridiculous statement. How would it not be worth learning from, even JCanete Mar 2018 #50

Obama lost the House two years into his presidency. We were not able to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #85

What happened in Georgia? Please enlighten us.... rgbecker Mar 2018 #160

Interesting on Obama's role and progressive ideas of reducing wealth inequality sharedvalues Mar 2018 #89

I totally agree that we needed a fighter at that point in time. I was thinking of the appropriate JCanete Mar 2018 #183

Exactly. +1 sharedvalues Mar 2018 #189

Under Obama. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #171

Got it. Just clarifying that in fact that's exactly what Bernie was asked/ KPN Mar 2018 #5

Yeah- hes been good on outreach to the working and middle classes sharedvalues Mar 2018 #19

I can't wait until he does a town hall in Vermont. George II Mar 2018 #28

Come on, is that necessary? sharedvalues Mar 2018 #31

Who is sniping? He's a Senator from Vermont. George II Mar 2018 #34

Trying to help who? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #77

Both of my senators do many many town halls Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #174

My exact thoughts. Those people in West Virginia were so impressed that a politician had OregonBlue Mar 2018 #36

Correction: outreach to the WHITE working and middle classes EffieBlack Mar 2018 #55

Thank you. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #79

Are you saying you think Bernie is a racist? I haven't really ever thought of him like that. OregonBlue Mar 2018 #151

No, I'm not saying that. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #155

Nope, that is NOT what he was asked to do in the capacity of Party Chair of Outreach. George II Mar 2018 #22

Positive please sharedvalues Mar 2018 #32

Huh? George II Mar 2018 #35

This is what Bernie was actually asked to do Progressive dog Mar 2018 #168

Do you know what the job of "Party Chair of Outreach" entails? George II Mar 2018 #20

Was it defined? No, so it's basically opinion KPN Mar 2018 #133

No it doesn't. It actually has very little to do with reaching out to people other than.... George II Mar 2018 #152

Oh, well, I'll accept that with proof. KPN Mar 2018 #157

In that case, I'll accept your inferred function of the job "with proof". See how that works? George II Mar 2018 #158

Bernie is not a Democrat dlk Mar 2018 #6

YES seta1950 Mar 2018 #13

And Why Is Bernie Not A Democrat? PaulX2 Mar 2018 #184

Issues! Lets be constructive sharedvalues Mar 2018 #14

Unfortunately talk didn't do much when the wealthiest just got 82% democratisphere Mar 2018 #41

He has? What laws has he had passed in this area? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #81

Aren't there some moderate Republicans who want pro-choice, better health care, Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #128

Cult of Personality Roy Rolling Mar 2018 #30

Thank you! We have public servants not heroes sharedvalues Mar 2018 #33

Great post! Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #67

+1 leftstreet Mar 2018 #102

Except the OP isn't asking us to focus on issues at large mythology Mar 2018 #116

Then talk about what issues you agree and disagree on and why you hold your opinion. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #145

Funny then, that the OP doesn't seem interested in discussing the issues KitSileya Mar 2018 #195

We also have party affiliation. That's what I thought this forum was about. ??? nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #129

I started a thread the other day asking everyone here why they are a Democrat. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #146

Excellent post! Sophia4 Mar 2018 #141

Democrats don't have HEROES? progressoid Mar 2018 #191

Thank you dlk for pointing that out. democratisphere Mar 2018 #38

The TOS for this site explicity identify Sanders as a "Democratic Public Figure" Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #39

You're right on all counts. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #52

A timely reminder. I hope this thread can stay civil Arazi Mar 2018 #99

Right snowybirdie Mar 2018 #53

From The Official Senate Democratic Leadership Page Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #126

"For all intents and purposes, Bernie Sanders is a Democrat." LiberalLovinLug Mar 2018 #187

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... LexVegas Mar 2018 #8

Amen. Lets talk about the issues we want to move forward. Sienna86 Mar 2018 #9

+1 sharedvalues Mar 2018 #18

I am done with Bernie katmondoo Mar 2018 #10

Me, too. Freedomofspeech Mar 2018 #12

Issues! Why did you vote for him then? sharedvalues Mar 2018 #16

I think, had Hillary chosen Warren or Bernie as VP mountain grammy Mar 2018 #26

I agree entirely. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #40

Yes, I think Hillary should have chosen Bernie. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #44

Nobody turns off people like he does, either EffieBlack Mar 2018 #61

To each their own. I find him inspirational. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #62

I understand and respect that EffieBlack Mar 2018 #64

You can say the same thing about Hillary. meadowlander Mar 2018 #94

People said that about Hillary all the time. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #98

I think that Hillary also should be playing more of a role in politics. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #149

That would be great. But every time Hillary utters a peep EffieBlack Mar 2018 #154

It looks odd that she is not part of the discussion. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #156

Why are you implying Hillary isnt well?? Isnt that a JPR R B Garr Mar 2018 #169

I'm sorry if I was unclear, but I think Hillary is very well, and I certainly did not Sophia4 Mar 2018 #180

Damned if she does, damned if she dont EffieBlack Mar 2018 #178

Yep. Tipperary Mar 2018 #80

Think of the alternative -- Trump and Pence. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #148

I agree Omaha Steve Mar 2018 #45

I don't agree EffieBlack Mar 2018 #60

Unfortunately the comments about identity politics just goes right over the head Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #83

I am disappointed that some here are still blaming HC for Trump pandr32 Mar 2018 #92

THANK you! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #100

Agreed. Cheating efforts continue in every way imaginable pandr32 Mar 2018 #110

Clinton takes blame for loss in new book: It was my campaign. Those were my decisions Omaha Steve Mar 2018 #111

She is that kind of person pandr32 Mar 2018 #118

Her strength really shines through... NCTraveler Mar 2018 #131

She got my vote Omaha Steve Mar 2018 #139

+1 nt NCTraveler Mar 2018 #140

I'm not blaming her at all. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #162

"The fix was in?" pandr32 Mar 2018 #176

The general of course mountain grammy Mar 2018 #179

There was a huge Republican drive to suppress voter turnout pandr32 Mar 2018 #196

Yes, I know and agree mountain grammy Mar 2018 #197

You could say that (as you did) or... pandr32 Mar 2018 #198

yes united we could of overcome the rig questionseverything Mar 2018 #142

Agreed! Sophia4 Mar 2018 #147

Okay, let's talk about the issues. Bernie can GTFO, though. NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #11

Wealth inequality! Its destroying America. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #15

Yes, agree mountain grammy Mar 2018 #24

No one here disagrees with that. Blue_true Mar 2018 #49

"Wealth inequality"? What was his net worth before his 2016 campaign and what is it now? George II Mar 2018 #57

How is this post focusing on Democratic values and issues? sharedvalues Mar 2018 #78

Agreed. Adrahil Mar 2018 #76

Yep, so tell us what would YOU do if you could. That is how this works. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #84

I like Piketty's idea: we need a wealth tax sharedvalues Mar 2018 #90

Great idea, first though we have to get rid of the tax plan the nazis just implemented Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #91

Yes I think two things are needed: turnout, and stop propaganda sharedvalues Mar 2018 #95

I fear that you are glossing over the problem of primarying democrats Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #96

Any democrat in any seat - I'm on board with that sharedvalues Mar 2018 #97

Oh great then, I suggest we preach that and ONLY that until we achieve that. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #101

I'm for a $12 MW. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #104

Russian Interference.. Tribalceltic Mar 2018 #17

GOP-billionaire funded right wing media has a bigger influence sharedvalues Mar 2018 #23

Thank you. yellowwoodII Mar 2018 #21

Thanks for supporting democratic ideas sharedvalues Mar 2018 #25

I idolize the man jodymarie aimee Mar 2018 #27

While Bernie advocates fair shake for all sharedvalues Mar 2018 #29

Thanks for the post Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #37

Yes, would love... zentrum Mar 2018 #42

I too would like to understand why Dems voted to roll back bank regs. Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #46

Here they are. zentrum Mar 2018 #51

This issue and the response of these 17 goes to the heart of the problem. rgbecker Mar 2018 #163

Agree. At least zentrum Mar 2018 #167

Bernie's ideas pose a direct threat to many wealthy and powerful interests including those on jalan48 Mar 2018 #43

Bernie talks but does little to no action. Blue_true Mar 2018 #47

He just took the ACTION of voting against this odious banking bill Jim Lane Mar 2018 #56

So did the vast majority of Democrats. If you have a problem with those Democrats who did NOT Squinch Mar 2018 #177

You've missed my point. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #185

And yet you only named one person by whom we should be impressed for taking that action. Squinch Mar 2018 #188

I named only one person because only one person was smeared. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #192

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Ugh. So much of the same old same old bullshit. Really, I just can't stand this conversation any Squinch Mar 2018 #199

He's all talk EffieBlack Mar 2018 #63

There was a time I would slam you for what you just said. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #87

Exactly EffieBlack Mar 2018 #93

Well said. MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #108

You nailed it EffieBlack Mar 2018 #143

+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #153

I said this in another thread last night Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #182

Who? Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #48

Right there with you Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #65

Actions speak louder than words. ehrnst Mar 2018 #54

I agree we should talk about the issues. kstewart33 Mar 2018 #58

You could say Heartstrings Mar 2018 #59

Ideas and implementation of ideas are two different issues ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #66

Nothing you said anywhere in here is a lie EffieBlack Mar 2018 #69

And thats the elephant in the living room so to speak ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #74

It's not about the issues kcr Mar 2018 #68

The issues are Democratic issues. Most of them were in the platform before Bernie said a word. Squinch Mar 2018 #70

This discussion rings true to me: Economy that works for everyone. 0.01% should pay their fair shar sharedvalues Mar 2018 #71

That has been a Democratic value since before you even knew Bernie's name. Squinch Mar 2018 #73

OK, so let's focus on that. I want economic fairness sharedvalues Mar 2018 #75

Who here does not want economic fairness? What Democrat does not want economic Squinch Mar 2018 #88

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Who got nominated? Who got at least that much done? Who had an actual track record of Squinch Mar 2018 #172

You mean Bernie didn't invent it? EffieBlack Mar 2018 #86

Correct. The Democratic Party platform is highly progressive. yardwork Mar 2018 #113

The tax on Wall Street Qutzupalotl Mar 2018 #72

Agreed. High freq trading tax makes sense sharedvalues Mar 2018 #82

I'd argue these transactions should be taxed just like sales tax. rgbecker Mar 2018 #165

Why? brer cat Mar 2018 #103

? I'm here to talk about wealth inequality. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #105

Then that should have been your OP brer cat Mar 2018 #112

Exactly. Passive aggressive Bernie transparency. Squinch Mar 2018 #115

+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #161

Damn! Brer Cat, Well Said! Cha Mar 2018 #109

This, 10000 times yardwork Mar 2018 #114

Thank you, brer. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #138

Well, damn! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #144

Thank you. These arent Bernies issues. Maven Mar 2018 #150

I think Bernie keeps comng up when Democratic issues are discussed rgbecker Mar 2018 #166

Good thread! mvd Mar 2018 #106

DURec leftstreet Mar 2018 #107

I am only going to vote for Democrats 4now Mar 2018 #117

Health care. KitSileya Mar 2018 #119

Boom boom boom ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #123

Thank you for Hillary's site on the Issues, Cha Mar 2018 #130

College KitSileya Mar 2018 #120

An economy that works for everyone KitSileya Mar 2018 #121

Campaign finance reform KitSileya Mar 2018 #122

A couple of issues you seem to have forgotten.... KitSileya Mar 2018 #124

Mahalo, Kit, for these Important ISSUES! Cha Mar 2018 #135

This is what we should focus on: Bernies ideas NCTraveler Mar 2018 #125

Let's talk party affiliation, too. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #132

The trend is really clear. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #136

"Bernie's ideas" like Medicare for all? That he shops around like a magic bullet ucrdem Mar 2018 #127

Right! And, John Conyers introduced Medicare Cha Mar 2018 #134

You got it Cha! And then there was Bernie's brilliant TPP idea ucrdem Mar 2018 #137

I love you Bernie but kacekwl Mar 2018 #159

Out of the five top trending threads at DU at this moment pecosbob Mar 2018 #170

Every Dem candidate for prez endorsed these issues. Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #173

It is vexing. betsuni Mar 2018 #175

I plead the 5th on Bernie Skittles Mar 2018 #181

Wealth inequality is the biggest issue of our time Kurt V. Mar 2018 #186

One of his "ideas" -none of which he actually invented - is one of which I want no part. His... NNadir Mar 2018 #190