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Blue_true

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10. Washington State was a prime example.

Sun Mar 11, 2018, 12:34 AM

Mar 2018

Hillary lost the caucus that counted big, but won the much larger in voter participation primary big. The primary voters that assumed their vote counted got cheated.

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DNC rules committee member: end the caucus System [View all] Upstate One Mar 2018 OP

they are not "democracy" - shut out too many people, in fact most people nt msongs Mar 2018 #1

Agree. Candidates ignore all future constitutents question everything Mar 2018 #8

Washington State was a prime example. Blue_true Mar 2018 #10

Not just that, a small group can flood a caucus with its Hortensis Mar 2018 #53

I won't fight against it... Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #2

Good. Dump them. CentralMass Mar 2018 #3

The problem with caucuses LiberalFighter Mar 2018 #4

+1, the amount of time to vote is more limited with caucus uponit7771 Mar 2018 #16

Unless you have participated in a caucus its hard to explain the feeling in them.. its TRUE samnsara Mar 2018 #36

Yup! Open primaries everywhere! longship Mar 2018 #5

It depends on how you're defining "open" primaries. dflprincess Mar 2018 #7

Only newly registered voters within the last 6 months should get an "open" ballot choice. Blue_true Mar 2018 #11

That CANNOT work in states without party registration!!! longship Mar 2018 #22

Exactly which states don't record party registration? Blue_true Mar 2018 #42

Michigan doesn't!!! longship Mar 2018 #45

Longship, what about when right wing operatives and media Hortensis Mar 2018 #54

Look like 22 states don't. I was wrong on the registration. Blue_true Mar 2018 #60

Virginia doesn't. N/t FSogol Mar 2018 #51

Well, if there's no party registration, there cannot be closed primaries. longship Mar 2018 #21

Open primaries can be sabotaged MichMan Mar 2018 #31

Listen. That's true of closed primaries, too. longship Mar 2018 #41

I favor open primaries IF. Blue_true Mar 2018 #62

That just won't work and is likely unconstitutional. longship Mar 2018 #63

Why does "everyone" have a "right" to decide who a party choose as it's nominee? Blue_true Mar 2018 #64

Because everybody has voting rights. longship Mar 2018 #65

You have no rights to get involved in the mechanisms of a private entity if it is not violating your Blue_true Mar 2018 #66

You are correct, we closed primary advocates only want our kind voting in primaries GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #67

How in the F do you know who's a Democrat w/o party registration? longship Mar 2018 #68

It obviously not possible is those states GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #69

FYI: 22 states do not have party registration. longship Mar 2018 #70

we dont vote by party either in wash state samnsara Mar 2018 #37

My information could be wrong, but 22 states don't record party. Blue_true Mar 2018 #61

No Loki Liesmith Mar 2018 #30

I thought about getting an R ballot once loyalsister Mar 2018 #34

Cannot be done in Michigan... longship Mar 2018 #46

I like our open primaries loyalsister Mar 2018 #33

Primaries belong to those who have the most money and the slickest ad campaign dflprincess Mar 2018 #6

People who have jobs and are not activists often can't attend caucuses. Blue_true Mar 2018 #12

Right.. plus older people and those in Cha Mar 2018 #15

Hi Cha. Blue_true Mar 2018 #17

Really? I thought Cha Mar 2018 #18

not true in my state...hubby and i both worked and attended every one of them. They are on Sat samnsara Mar 2018 #38

and all of following can't vote in them dsc Mar 2018 #29

A caucus belongs to those with more disposable income and time. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #56

Caucuses are undemocratic. They should be abolished. tritsofme Mar 2018 #9

Yup. I can get behind that! AllyCat Mar 2018 #13

Plus Not everyone can get to the Cha Mar 2018 #14

those who cant make it to the caucuses can have a ballot mailed to them and the caucuses Ive been to samnsara Mar 2018 #35

Idaho idahoblue Mar 2018 #19

How, as a practical matter, can this be done except by state legislatures? Jim Lane Mar 2018 #20

Pretty easy Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #26

Stupid. The party does not decide if caucus or primary. DURHAM D Mar 2018 #23

Actually I think the party can choose any way it wants to select a candidate Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #25

Do you think that in a deep red state they care about DURHAM D Mar 2018 #28

Minnesota has already done so, following the 2016 election. MineralMan Mar 2018 #24

i love our caucuses...since we have all mail in ballots the caucus.. samnsara Mar 2018 #27

You can mail in ballots to the primaries as well. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #50

We have to quit looking inside and look outside. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #32

frankly I feel states should get to decided however they want to run the elections.. samnsara Mar 2018 #39

In local elections but not primaries...no we all have a stake in primaries... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #48

Look at Nevada in 16...there was a caucus and a primary with different results. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #49

Caucuses are not democratic Gothmog Mar 2018 #40

I'm in favor of DEMOCRATS picking the DEMOCRATIC candidate. Adrahil Mar 2018 #43

R#32 & K for *END* caucuses! They violate private/"secret" ballots; favor the loudest voices; UTUSN Mar 2018 #44

Absolutely. Caucuses are not Democratic and exclude people who can't sit around for hours. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #47

K&R Scurrilous Mar 2018 #52

Its an impediment to participation. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #55

No caucuses is a good start NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #57

Depends upon the objective zipplewrath Mar 2018 #58

Absolutely... SidDithers Mar 2018 #59