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Sophia4

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26. You make excellent points.

Sun Mar 11, 2018, 02:09 PM

Mar 2018

It's true. 401(K)s are no substitute for real retirement plans, employer retirement plans.

But I never, ever had an employer retirement plan. And nowadays, employers go out of business or fire employees so quickly that there is not enough security in a job to build a retirement account with an employer.

And Social Security does not pay much.

Yet we live longer.

Getting a job when you are over 65 is not easy either.

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