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89. You are, of course, correct. There are still pockets of civil society left in this country.

Sun Mar 11, 2018, 06:54 PM

Mar 2018

It's a big country, and there are still a lot of good people out there. Examples are many, but a few that come to mind are the existence of sanctuary cities where people have realized and codified the FACT that this is largely a nation of immigrants, the recent outcry from our youth against gun violence, and the fact that there are still universities (the University of Wisconsin no longer being an example) where the search for truth and enlightenment continues mostly unabated by right-wing anti-intellectual political forces.

But the dominant social movement in this country at this moment in time is TRUMP-ism, which is really just a particularly virulent strain of nativism/ white nationalism that would not look out of place in 1930's Germany.

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Why do so many people think it's OK for Trump to behave like a low-class, ill-mannered boor? [View all] The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 OP

Good question Meowmee Mar 2018 #1

Same here Roy Rolling Mar 2018 #33

We had something similar when I was a kid but it went like this... smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #68

Ok, *I* remember phylny Mar 2018 #123

I remember it as- dawg day Mar 2018 #136

I remember Meowmee Mar 2018 #116

I suspect the people who voted for him think it's OK for him to behave badly. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2018 #2

They have been told by trump,faux etc. that having kacekwl Mar 2018 #41

Yes kacekwl Ohiogal Mar 2018 #47

This. n/t Different Drummer Mar 2018 #90

exactly. turn on any republican talk radio station and hear the excuses and certainot Mar 2018 #95

but call them racist or assholes Alpeduez21 Mar 2018 #127

imo, as long as democrats ignore rw radio it doesn't matter much what dems say certainot Mar 2018 #131

I believe you have the answer. old guy Mar 2018 #51

Thank you, old guy! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2018 #54

exactly Larrybanal Mar 2018 #58

EXACTLY TNNurse Mar 2018 #60

Trump is saying the things True Blue American Mar 2018 #61

TV has alot to do with it bdamomma Mar 2018 #99

It really IS that simple! Plucketeer Mar 2018 #88

A shame his suppporters and much of media are normalizing outrageous lying, bullying, insulting wishstar Mar 2018 #3

To a point.... SergeStorms Mar 2018 #77

yeah i used to think that was just a phrase. barbtries Mar 2018 #122

Yep! SergeStorms Mar 2018 #124

every time i think of this stupid parade barbtries Mar 2018 #125

Catch 22. SergeStorms Mar 2018 #139

yep barbtries Mar 2018 #140

Excellent choice! SergeStorms Mar 2018 #141

He's the 21st-century American version of Commodus dalton99a Mar 2018 #4

Popularization of discourse. Igel Mar 2018 #5

When I was in elementary school in a rural area in the 1950s, I discovered that the enough Mar 2018 #6

I think you are on to something. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #72

WHy is M$Greedia covering this shit? malaise Mar 2018 #7

Purely for the ratings AdamGG Mar 2018 #67

From what I've seen and heard, most of his supporters think Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #8

They're living vicariously through him MustLoveBeagles Mar 2018 #9

You've probably nailed it. Miles Archer Mar 2018 #102

Well stated . The deplorables also believe they are the decent ones by acting that way. lunasun Mar 2018 #107

The rightwing media just talks on as if all this were... normal. ananda Mar 2018 #10

Unfortunately, the MSM does, too, not just the media that are openly acknowledged tblue37 Mar 2018 #27

I called MSNBC and CNN to complain. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #62

I did as well. Its to the point that they need a warning onecaliberal Mar 2018 #78

Yeah!!! Good for you! BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #80

projection. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #11

Worst case of arrested development ever seen... Mopar151 Mar 2018 #12

Name-calling is very Presidential. moondust Mar 2018 #13

Could it be because low-class, ill-mannered boors rock Mar 2018 #14

Exactly what I was going to post, rock. nt sheshe2 Mar 2018 #19

Yeah, and we're suppose to respect Cha Mar 2018 #108

A dark and twisted version of America. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #109

YES YES YES!!!! Alpeduez21 Mar 2018 #129

They see themselves in him. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #70

Didn't you see Bill Maher's latest show? Paladin Mar 2018 #15

I turned it off after the opening monologue Blecht Mar 2018 #30

I'll tell you the only revelation of the show: Paladin Mar 2018 #45

Youre one of us Nevernose Mar 2018 #16

They think it should okay for white people to behave that way... Orsino Mar 2018 #17

Ignorance is strength? world wide wally Mar 2018 #18

Double plus good! Gabi Hayes Mar 2018 #44

The politics of the middle finger. JHB Mar 2018 #20

"because it pisses off liberals" renate Mar 2018 #49

They like it, and want to believe they'd act the same in his position. Hoyt Mar 2018 #21

because they are sick fucks Skittles Mar 2018 #22

Too many of them were brought up to have exceptions to whom should be treated decently muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #23

My spouse and I GallopingGhost Mar 2018 #24

I'm with you and your spouse. n/t MBS Mar 2018 #31

When I see his GallopingGhost Mar 2018 #113

One word: FEAR Fritz Walter Mar 2018 #25

I keep hearing "let Trump be Trump" from the more rabid RWNJs... Buns_of_Fire Mar 2018 #26

They got that from Steve Bannon FakeNoose Mar 2018 #93

There Was A Moron On CSPAN WJ This Morning ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #28

Trump is actually on a very high plain bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #29

Trump's always been this way crazycatlady Mar 2018 #32

Everybody knows that. The question is, why is his behavior tolerated The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #38

TBH I'm surprised that he got past the primary crazycatlady Mar 2018 #46

Because he'll appoint the judges that they want. nt DesertRat Mar 2018 #34

Because half of them or more behave the same way. nt Blue_true Mar 2018 #35

Off the cuff comments, no holding back... magicarpet Mar 2018 #87

Maybe there's a mob mentality at these rallies. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #36

"Telling it like it is" equals Trump equals strength to them steve2470 Mar 2018 #37

Most of trump supporters have no manners Miigwech Mar 2018 #39

Easy - they themselves are low-class, ill-mannered boors. Initech Mar 2018 #40

They are a mirror image of his highness. Butterflylady Mar 2018 #42

Good discussion on this subject.. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #43

Because he shits on the people they hate. LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #48

Because they're low-class and ill-mannered . . . hatrack Mar 2018 #50

those who do are also low-class boors. pangaia Mar 2018 #52

Boors of a feather... nt Xipe Totec Mar 2018 #53

He's old, white, scared, hateful and bigoted just like they are Awsi Dooger Mar 2018 #55

I think that is it. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2018 #66

tRump insults people, then says that this person or that person stopbush Mar 2018 #56

What's his approval? SayItLoud Mar 2018 #57

Also why to they shrug off horrendous scandals that would destroy the career of any other politician Kablooie Mar 2018 #59

Trump has exposed (to me) an underbelly of America that I had no idea existed mchill Mar 2018 #63

TRUMP and his behavior are accepted because this is what we have become as a society. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #64

I agree with you, except-- janx Mar 2018 #71

You are, of course, correct. There are still pockets of civil society left in this country. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #89

'Cause they're dingbats? sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #65

Because a lot of white men are entitled pigs askyagerz Mar 2018 #69

That may be true, but this kind of behavior was never acceptable The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #84

There has always been a large portion of these people askyagerz Mar 2018 #98

What we used to call manners or civility CanonRay Mar 2018 #73

It's primitive, tribal behavior... ewagner Mar 2018 #74

But why now, and why this guy? Politics has always been a nasty business, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #79

I've been in politics since the 60s also... ewagner Mar 2018 #92

Good question... ewagner Mar 2018 #143

Dunning Kruger effect...nt SayitAintSo Mar 2018 #75

Some of his voters have deserted him due to this. lark Mar 2018 #76

His lowbrow voters view this as proof he's a "regular guy" Jake Stern Mar 2018 #81

Because that's exactly how they wish they could act. dawg Mar 2018 #82

Its obvious his mother thought her Donnie wasn't right..... Historic NY Mar 2018 #83

Great question... Niagara Mar 2018 #85

Easy--he's not Hillary. KatyaR Mar 2018 #86

The answer to your question is in the first four words you asked GusBob Mar 2018 #91

Conservatives are unbelievable hypocritical. Wasn't it just a few years ago they Nitram Mar 2018 #94

We must see the truths and honor the truths that advance this Democracy's Posterity Civic Justice Mar 2018 #96

The deplorables are like drumpf with regard to behavior and speech. democratisphere Mar 2018 #97

But they aren't, necessarily, and that's what I don't get. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #100

So you must take people at face value. I don't. Many people can pretend democratisphere Mar 2018 #104

There was kid right behind him at his speech in PA where he used the term son of a bitch lunasun Mar 2018 #101

trump DownriverDem Mar 2018 #103

It is exceptional jimlup Mar 2018 #105

White male dominance is worshipped in red America. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #106

This Yavin4 Mar 2018 #134

Is he really that different from Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity? Amaryllis Mar 2018 #110

He's the president. That's a lot different from being a trash-mouthed, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #111

His supporters were Jspur Mar 2018 #112

Because he acts like they do. It's relatable. n/t TryingNot2Freak Mar 2018 #114

Because evil people prosper. joshcryer Mar 2018 #115

Have you seen Idiocracy? Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #117

Newt Gingrich bluecollar2 Mar 2018 #118

I blame reality TV. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #119

2 suspicions here: MadDAsHell Mar 2018 #120

we're not well. barbtries Mar 2018 #121

Because he is a racist Alpeduez21 Mar 2018 #126

because they act a lot like him nt njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #128

The brutal truth is DonCoquixote Mar 2018 #130

It's like watching the Three Stooges... C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #132

They are him and he is they Yavin4 Mar 2018 #133

Peas in a pod stick together, something like that ... n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #135

Because, and I'll say it again for the millionth time... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #137

Because he is *their* low-class, ill-mannered boor. SeattleVet Mar 2018 #138

I ask that same question to myself often. What has happened to basic morals? UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #142