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garybeck

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243. Bernie has done more for the democratic party that you think.

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:21 AM

Mar 2018

believe it or not, there are many people who are democrats but don't just blindly follow whatever the party does. we have minds of our own. we think it is a billion times better than the republican party. but we think the democratic party has some issues too. sometimes Bernie points them out. is that a sin?

bernie energized millions of people last election. many of them voted for hillary.

IMHO, the problem was not bernie. i think he helped hillary more than hurt her. if you are looking for someone to blame, blame the DNC who unfairly favored Hillary and you can also blame the russians who clearly affected the elections in many ways.

blaming bernie is saying "no" to a huge round of young people who are smart and they are tired of politics as usual.

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U.S. Sen. Sanders rallies in Lubbock of all places [View all] Donkees Mar 2018 OP

Bashing the Democratic Party A-gain.. Cha Mar 2018 #1

The only way he can get himself in the news nowadays, it seems dalton99a Mar 2018 #9

Is He Ever In Vermont? Me. Mar 2018 #58

He's running for Senator Cha Mar 2018 #60

He's rallied 1,000+ in deep red Texas... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #73

A thousand people in a city of about 300,000? WOW! George II Mar 2018 #120

Ha ha, the desperation reeks. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #151

So you think a rally in a remote, 70% red town in Texas is more important than rallying... George II Mar 2018 #165

"Town"? Upthread it's a 300,000+ city! SMC22307 Mar 2018 #174

Detroit, Philly GaryCnf Mar 2018 #186

If some DUers are this worked up about Bernie in March... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #187

It's beyond comprehension GaryCnf Mar 2018 #195

Sounds rather *purist* to me. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #201

This GaryCnf Mar 2018 #205

Since you've only been here since 2013, what would you know about those missing 5 years? George II Mar 2018 #231

I've been "duly noteded" before. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #466

Yes, many Democrats saw how a candidate considered by many to be unfit to serve ehrnst Mar 2018 #284

"Unfit to serve" GaryCnf Mar 2018 #433

That's exactly what I saw towards Hillary a lot here on DU. ehrnst Mar 2018 #435

Project much? GaryCnf Mar 2018 #444

We did have a great candidate and SHE won the votes ehrnst Mar 2018 #446

I'm not terrified of it. kstewart33 Mar 2018 #428

Bernie had ZERO to do with GaryCnf Mar 2018 #434

No one else is running yet. kstewart33 Mar 2018 #436

NO ONE is running GaryCnf Mar 2018 #442

Of course he's "not running" ehrnst Mar 2018 #447

You forgot Burlington College GaryCnf Mar 2018 #448

What about Burlington College? ehrnst Mar 2018 #449

What is a "moderate purist?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #437

What is a leftist purist? GaryCnf Mar 2018 #443

I never said that a "lefist purist" existed ehrnst Mar 2018 #445

Now we have a Kennedy to save the day with "Affordable Heath care For All"... stlsaxman Mar 2018 #480

And how many people came...1000, 2000...they went 67% for Trump? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #352

Just like SW PA that went bigly for Trump, but swung to Lamb (D). SMC22307 Mar 2018 #462

It is not even close to PA...and if we fielded the right candidate and kept it local, maybe. But not Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #479

Bernie's in Lubbock because he gets more media coverage there. kstewart33 Mar 2018 #403

That, too. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #413

"Don't vote for Republicans," as Bernie said, is the kind of headline I want. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #467

To call the Democrats weak ahead of an important special election in Texas is despicable. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #329

As we just witnessed in SW PA, Bernie's economic message resonates. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #463

Are you kidding me..this was a moderate Democrat who won in PA...our revolution types are Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #478

+1000 KTM Mar 2018 #233

"Our" party? George II Mar 2018 #249

Yes George, ours. KTM Mar 2018 #252

She beat both male competitors by MILLIONS. R B Garr Mar 2018 #250

Apparently not the minority if math is taken into consideration. ehrnst Mar 2018 #274

Sorry, but you don't get to change reality. Millions more voted for R B Garr Mar 2018 #327

Your PM does not reflect your post. You clearly state here, R B Garr Mar 2018 #328

It really doesn't reflect a minority of opinion. You are kidding yourself. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #330

Lamb won in SW PA running on an economic platform very similar to Bernie's. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #468

Bernie could cure cancer and be bashed for it here. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #256

No, if Bernie cured cancer and then accused Democrats of not wanting to cure betsuni Mar 2018 #262

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #271

or of unfairly trying to get someone else to cure cancer... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #346

I remember someone saying that Hillary could walk on water ehrnst Mar 2018 #270

Come on...we have good discussions...and you are honest. Do you really think it is helpful to call Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #331

Yes, and I'm certainly willing to concede Bernie has his "moments," like any politician... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #381

I had no idea that DU was so vital to party unity... ehrnst Mar 2018 #414

You got that right. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #469

Yup yup, Bernie has shown us the way... we just have to follow his lead. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #481

Well, coming from someone "posting on a message board" ehrnst Mar 2018 #272

ROFL shenmue Mar 2018 #132

Vermont is safely blue. Red areas are the problem in this country... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #71

Nice Attempt At Snark Me. Mar 2018 #75

LOL! You're bashing someone who is trying to get people to vote for Democrats. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #77

So He Goes To Gets Votes For Dems Me. Mar 2018 #87

He didn't disparage Dems. He told the audience to not vote for Republicans. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #98

First Off Me. Mar 2018 #102

Sounds like something Macedonian trolls would say... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #108

I See You've Taken A Trip Down The Nile Me. Mar 2018 #117

Unfortunately, no, but I'd LOVE to visit Egypt some day. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #159

This uneducated angle at making Bernie a victim R B Garr Mar 2018 #179

And then the Russians would have helped Trump to harm Bernie... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #182

Obviously that is why helping Bernie was their goal. The divisiveness helped R B Garr Mar 2018 #214

Yep. And Conor Lamb showed that ehrnst Mar 2018 #438

Too Right Me. Mar 2018 #439

LOL Connor Lamb ran -- and won -- on an economic platform VERY similar to Bernie's. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #470

I didn't see an endorsement from Our Revolution. ehrnst Mar 2018 #475

Yeah, brilliant - trying to get people to vote for Democrats by telling them... George II Mar 2018 #123

The logic is yeah, there's a problem, maybe they haven't done enough for working people. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #125

Who is "WE"? Our Revolution? George II Mar 2018 #126

"WE" is anyone who votes for Democrats. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #138

Then who is 'They'? sheshe2 Mar 2018 #142

Those who don't vote for Democrats. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2018 #150

Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #153

And if they've got a guy from 1,700 miles away telling you Democrats... George II Mar 2018 #176

Not at all. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #181

Uh huh mcar Mar 2018 #152

Uh huh... sheshe2 Mar 2018 #154

Can you quantify "turnout is abysmal?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #279

Is just over 61% in a national election really something to get excited about? SMC22307 Mar 2018 #471

You are ignoring voter supression of Democrats. ehrnst Mar 2018 #473

Hmmm. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #140

Yes. betsuni Mar 2018 #148

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #189

Who is "they?" as opposed to "we?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #474

He's in Texas because that is one of his jobs. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #83

How quickly they forget. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #85

Being in Texas is not part of that job. I'm sure you know that. George II Mar 2018 #128

Yeah, but if he wasn't out there campaigning for Dems Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #143

Nope. At this point, and with the recent success rate of his endorsed candidates, I wish.... George II Mar 2018 #145

"candidates supported by Our Revolution won or advanced to runoffs in 17 out of 29 races." SMC22307 Mar 2018 #164

I trust Our Revolution's endorsement list more than the BBC's numbers: George II Mar 2018 #168

It seems for some here, trashing Bernie Sanders is all they got. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #230

Conor Lamb won in PA running on an economic platform very similar to Bernie's... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #472

He is at an our revolution rally. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #347

Thank you! mountain grammy Mar 2018 #225

Who is putting down or belittling these people? ehrnst Mar 2018 #282

Speaking of "belittle them", that's what he did to the Democratic Party in his address. George II Mar 2018 #285

Yes, he filled the hall in Lubbock and then proceeded to tell them that the Democratic Party... George II Mar 2018 #293

Crickets... (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #318

Grammy, maybe the problem is this. kstewart33 Mar 2018 #407

Texas has a lot of money. herding cats Mar 2018 #251

Obviously, it doesnt matter. nt G_j Mar 2018 #278

What he's doing is "outreach?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #281

Unfortunately people misunderstand the duties of the "outreach" position he has in the Senate. George II Mar 2018 #290

I guess getting in digs at "a few individuals in Washington" is part of the job now. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #291

Bashing the Democratic Party is doing Democratic Party outreach? BS stevenleser Mar 2018 #299

Bingo. (NT) ehrnst Mar 2018 #321

If Bernie were holding rally after rally in safely blue Vermont -- Jim Lane Mar 2018 #96

Of course. And oh, dear God, the poor optics! LOL SMC22307 Mar 2018 #119

So he rallies in a district that voted 70% for republicans..... George II Mar 2018 #131

A Democrat won in Alabama, eh? SMC22307 Mar 2018 #158

Who is talking about Alabama? However, since you bring it up, in the recent special election... George II Mar 2018 #162

No, I'm surely not. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #194

Thank you for proving my point. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #170

It would be nice if he'd "campaign" for Democrats under the Democratic label, not Our Revolution.... George II Mar 2018 #191

In his many rallies for Democrats, he might not always have worn the right tie, either. (n/t) Jim Lane Mar 2018 #226

. George II Mar 2018 #248

Nobody cares about his ties or his hair. ehrnst Mar 2018 #319

His appearances were for Our Revolution and to associate his face and R B Garr Mar 2018 #359

The event in Austin was a CNN interview by Jake Tapper at the SXSW festival. TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #258

You do understand that there is a Republican governor in Vermont? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #343

You do understand that the Vermont Democratic Party website features Bernie? Jim Lane Mar 2018 #356

This post was to make you aware of the fact Vermont is not a blue state completely. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #367

In fact, looking at the Governor and Congressional Delegation, Vermont... George II Mar 2018 #416

Blue does not make a state safe. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #133

bingo Champion Jack Mar 2018 #211

Vermont has a Republican governor...so I would not consider them 'safely blue'... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #332

Bashing? Why are you bashing the Chair KPN Mar 2018 #76

Good question. And Dems are in the MINORITY for a reason... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #79

Wading into deep red territory and bashing Democrats is hardly helpful. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #333

Wading into deep red territory and telling people not to vote for Republicans. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #465

And that the Democratic party has to do... what was the quote? Something like they Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #476

So why do you think Dems are in the minority? ehrnst Mar 2018 #399

He's not doing the job that Chuck Schumer appointed him to. George II Mar 2018 #139

BS' own words are bashing the Democratic Cha Mar 2018 #190

Thank you! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #193

I know, Jackie.. there's a word for Cha Mar 2018 #197

What outreach? NurseJackie Mar 2018 #199

It's Cha Mar 2018 #200

This as 2000 people show up in a deeply red State KPN Mar 2018 #206

Oooo. Ahhh. Two thousand, eh? Wow. So impressive. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #213

Really? Ridicule? KPN Mar 2018 #223

So I struck a nerve, I see. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #224

So you achieved your goal. KTM Mar 2018 #229

Lol. KPN Mar 2018 #241

Hmmm, Sunday morning it was 1,200. George II Mar 2018 #280

OK. 1200 . KPN Mar 2018 #286

And that means what exactly? In 16 big rallies didn't translate into votes. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #334

Say what? KPN Mar 2018 #355

Hillary beat both male opponents, though. She did that with perfectly R B Garr Mar 2018 #361

The person who had the big rallies was not the nominee. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #368

I agree. So people would do well to stop the KPN Mar 2018 #370

His own words are not a hit piece. R B Garr Mar 2018 #389

His own words? ehrnst Mar 2018 #410

No, not his words. The response they draw from some posters here. KPN Mar 2018 #422

The functions and duties of the "Senate Democrats Committee Chair for Outreach".... George II Mar 2018 #418

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2018 #426

Do you have some stats on the Sanders audiences who showed at Clinton appearances in the GE? ehrnst Mar 2018 #402

Do you? KPN Mar 2018 #408

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2018 #409

Nice try at a deflection. I wasn't making statements on the numbers, you were. ehrnst Mar 2018 #415

Yes, it is speculation based on anecdotal evidence. I don't know anyone personally KPN Mar 2018 #419

I am not the one making speculation concerning this one way or another. ehrnst Mar 2018 #424

I didn't say you were, did I? KPN Mar 2018 #425

Oh, so you were asking this rhetorically in a post responding to me ehrnst Mar 2018 #429

Well, I can only say that I've seen plenty of posts, especially shortly after the election that KPN Mar 2018 #431

How successful has his pressure been in his career as a politician on Cap Hill in getting results? ehrnst Mar 2018 #441

It kind of depends on how you define results. Is it bills authored and KPN Mar 2018 #455

He has had a long career. ehrnst Mar 2018 #456

Big rallies didn't translate into anything for Nader either (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #404

We obviously disagree on those points. KPN Mar 2018 #204

Because the Chair has a warped view of the job, thats why. Nt stevenleser Mar 2018 #305

So he shouldn't try to grow interest, enthusiasm and investment in the party? KPN Mar 2018 #323

It is obvious he is in Texas to take credit for the blue R B Garr Mar 2018 #324

He isn't growing interest in the party...he called the party weak. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #335

I disagree. I know people who voted in 2016 KPN Mar 2018 #358

Hillary outperformed both male opponents by millions, so it looks like her message R B Garr Mar 2018 #360

It is not about our skin...saying bad stuff turns people off ...it just does. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #365

People shouldn't point to others and cry "thin-skinned" who themselves won't ehrnst Mar 2018 #405

Whatever. We see things differently. I recognize and accept the KPN Mar 2018 #411

"Whatever." ehrnst Mar 2018 #417

Ridicule? Come on. There's no need for that. KPN Mar 2018 #420

Whatever. ehrnst Mar 2018 #421

No, not really. What did you do? KPN Mar 2018 #423

You are cute. ehrnst Mar 2018 #430

My wife thinks so. Oh, and my daughter. KPN Mar 2018 #432

I don't imagine you interact with them the way you do ehrnst Mar 2018 #440

Oh? KPN Mar 2018 #451

And? ehrnst Mar 2018 #457

And what? I'm not going to get into KPN Mar 2018 #458

Oh? ehrnst Mar 2018 #459

Yes. KPN Mar 2018 #460

Lol. ehrnst Mar 2018 #461

+1000. stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #137

DAMMIT! calimary Mar 2018 #180

Counterproductive is exactly right, calimary.. Cha Mar 2018 #192

What is with Sanders and the constant Dem bashing? mcar Mar 2018 #2

Let's hope his constant bashing of Cha Mar 2018 #3

It's who he is. Bernie needs to go away. NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #4

I just don't know what he hopes to gain by this mcar Mar 2018 #5

Precisely. dalton99a Mar 2018 #7

Yeah, I think we know Cha Mar 2018 #11

A lot of my friends are very progressive.... Adrahil Mar 2018 #25

Agree Joediss Mar 2018 #45

Great point. And now that you mention it... George II Mar 2018 #54

Vermont is 98.5% white. ehrnst Mar 2018 #122

Isn't That One Of The Points Made In 'To Kill A Mockingbird'? Me. Mar 2018 #61

Such a great post. Nailed it. R B Garr Mar 2018 #63

Adrahill, subjection of avowed goals to personality quirks Hortensis Mar 2018 #70

Yep pandr32 Mar 2018 #69

It was an Our Revolution rally. Was there an admission fee? George II Mar 2018 #124

Oh, no, no. Sen Sanders is the DNC Outreach Chair mcar Mar 2018 #155

He did. And going to Texas for a even if it was a Democratic rally, isn't part of that job. George II Mar 2018 #160

This is not helpful to Dem GOTV efforts mcar Mar 2018 #161

No admission fee to the rally, TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #173

$5 donation? Registering Voters Cha Mar 2018 #238

Yup... sheshe2 Mar 2018 #147

Attendees praised him for wading into deep red territory... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #74

Telling the crowd that Democrats are a problem mcar Mar 2018 #86

"People in this state should not be voting Republican." SMC22307 Mar 2018 #91

"I have believed for a long time that the Democratic Party has not stood up.." mcar Mar 2018 #99

That pisses me off so badly...I can't even say how much... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #336

I don't have an objection to him going into red territory.... Adrahil Mar 2018 #90

He clearly stated that people should not be voting for Republicans... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #94

You not getting it... Adrahil Mar 2018 #111

Right-wing media is a huge problem. So is a disappearing middle class. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #114

I'm so negative? Adrahil Mar 2018 #116

His message was Republicans suck -- don't vote for them. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #121

I'm hearing something else: Sanders is encouraging the Democratic Party to do better. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2018 #105

Maybe he should do that at DNC meetings mcar Mar 2018 #113

How are these people going to be persuaded to vote KPN Mar 2018 #210

Agree. Good post! (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2018 #202

Exactly. Senator Sanders is actually trying KPN Mar 2018 #207

It is a piss poor attempt when you say the Democratic party has not stood up yada yada. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #337

Well, I don't believe he is saying the party KPN Mar 2018 #362

That is not better. I have lots of heartburn and am done...just done...going to turn off the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #363

Any criticism bashing, according to people here. alarimer Mar 2018 #276

Maybe he should let Democrats concern themselves about the message which has nothing to do with him. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #344

Bernie has done more for the democratic party that you think. garybeck Mar 2018 #243

They didn't unfairly favor her. She paid their debt. shenmue Mar 2018 #303

Yeah....so energized...and we lost the election...hmm. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #338

Why thats doing outreach on behalf of the Democratic Party dontchaknow? stevenleser Mar 2018 #300

Well he is the DNC Outreach Chair mcar Mar 2018 #301

Yup and apparently he thinks that means getting people to not support the party stevenleser Mar 2018 #302

God help us...because this sort of rally surely won't help at all in fact just the opposite. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #339

I fear the same mcar Mar 2018 #357

I want to win if this shit worked I could live with it...but all evidence points to the opposite Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #366

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #6

His quote directly says Democrats dont stand up for you. R B Garr Mar 2018 #8

Bernie Sanders is trying to depress Democratic turnout. dalton99a Mar 2018 #10

It is absolutely undeniable now. Actively smearing and R B Garr Mar 2018 #13

I fear this, dalton mcar Mar 2018 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Beartracks Mar 2018 #48

Nope. JCanete Mar 2018 #67

Horseshit. He's telling people to not vote for Republicans. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #104

Whoever smelt the horseshit dealt it ehrnst Mar 2018 #398

Well isn't that just full Cha Mar 2018 #12

Yes, It is very full of it. R B Garr Mar 2018 #15

It's been going on Cha Mar 2018 #16

He needs it to establish his brand. R B Garr Mar 2018 #17

And, it's so funny 'cause Cha Mar 2018 #18

Yes, I have noticed him acting like that. R B Garr Mar 2018 #22

And, of course, the feeling Cha Mar 2018 #24

Yes it is mutual. He has been insulated from this in his R B Garr Mar 2018 #41

My millenials don't even like him anymore. I am sorry I voted for him in Ohio. I liked both Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #345

If that's what his quote "directly says" then why don't you quote him "directly"? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #65

Nope. JCanete Mar 2018 #66

Thanks for confirming that his message is undermining. R B Garr Mar 2018 #100

he's promoting democrats in these races, and certainly not promoting republicans, given his JCanete Mar 2018 #109

His message is very divisive. It is hard not to take the man R B Garr Mar 2018 #169

the whole brushing shit under the rug angle and not acknowledging our party's JCanete Mar 2018 #216

That is simply not accurate. This is really just a tired version R B Garr Mar 2018 #217

no it isn't at all. sorry. That is simply not accurate. JCanete Mar 2018 #219

If someone said you are out of touch and need help, R B Garr Mar 2018 #221

Sanders cannot honestly, with any modicum of credibility, advocate for the issues he advocates JCanete Mar 2018 #222

Why is Bernie against $20.00/ hr minimum wage?? R B Garr Mar 2018 #227

This was hardly the crux of the complaints against the Democratic party. This was a matter JCanete Mar 2018 #232

No, wrong right off the top. Sanders demonized incrementalism, R B Garr Mar 2018 #234

Incrementalism in proposal, of fucking course! what do you have to negotiate with at that point? JCanete Mar 2018 #235

I am talking about his messages that demonized Democrats. R B Garr Mar 2018 #236

What do you mean by he is okay with incrementalism? I don't know what you are JCanete Mar 2018 #253

Remember he was campaigning in Texas for Our Revolution?? R B Garr Mar 2018 #265

no, a smear implies inaccuracies. And unless you have some proof of lies, I'd stay away from JCanete Mar 2018 #266

I have to laugh that you are trying this hard to explain away R B Garr Mar 2018 #288

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #298

You are full of the same thing. You are the one talking around R B Garr Mar 2018 #306

My tone was over the top, my apologies. I don't see the doublespeak. If I thought JCanete Mar 2018 #307

ffs, really?? I already said many posts back not to R B Garr Mar 2018 #308

we both think the other person is doing that. You said that he is unilaterally going to fix stuff, JCanete Mar 2018 #309

His own words. You are the one trying to pretend his R B Garr Mar 2018 #310

It is...but of course I acknowledge that Sanders has criticism for the Democratic party...no JCanete Mar 2018 #314

Your doublespeak is truly a marvel. Now you agree R B Garr Mar 2018 #322

You start off with an insulting personal attack.. therefore Cha Mar 2018 #312

read in context...things had not exactly kept an even keel, but for my part, I did apologize JCanete Mar 2018 #313

Nope. with that insult to her.. you lose. End of discusson. Cha Mar 2018 #315

then feel free to end the discussion already. JCanete Mar 2018 #316

Oh, you did that with your personal Cha Mar 2018 #369

In terms of Bullshit - whoever smelt it dealt it. ehrnst Mar 2018 #320

BS did the same thing in 2012 when he Cha Mar 2018 #267

First, he walked that back. Second, he didn't need to as far as I'm concerned. Our democrats JCanete Mar 2018 #287

No, BS didn't walk that back.. It was awful Cha Mar 2018 #294

We are progressive because we are diverse and advocate for all. ehrnst Mar 2018 #397

So he's said: ehrnst Mar 2018 #283

No, that's not what his quote says at all. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #81

It says exactly that, and he says he is going to fix R B Garr Mar 2018 #93

The party "has not stood up AS STRONG AS IT SHOULD," WE'RE try to change that... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #95

Thanks for confirming that he is saying Democrats are not R B Garr Mar 2018 #97

"We're trying to change that." SMC22307 Mar 2018 #101

His own words. He is going to fix everything. R B Garr Mar 2018 #103

"We're trying to change that." SMC22307 Mar 2018 #107

The word games dont fool anyone. Are you not aware R B Garr Mar 2018 #167

1,000 seats lost and full control of only six states. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #177

Yet Our Revolution has a higher fail rate and they do not have any historic GOP R B Garr Mar 2018 #212

well yeah, our revolution is in its infancy. It is builiding something. It very may well JCanete Mar 2018 #218

Unfortunately, a lot of the Sanders message is at cross purposes R B Garr Mar 2018 #220

It will fail because of their tactics...promoting Greens and Republicans in some cases. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #340

Wow. Iggo Mar 2018 #215

Yes, of all places. I wonder, when was the last time he attended a rally in Vermont? Remember.... George II Mar 2018 #14

I hope Beto wins in Texas.. a Democrat! Cha Mar 2018 #19

A Beto win would be huge! mcar Mar 2018 #53

Maybe this is why he doesnt run on his accomplishments R B Garr Mar 2018 #20

Thanks for posting. Bernie is still working hard for whats right. nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #21

What has he done? George II Mar 2018 #23

Well, for starters he's holding a rally in Lubbock TX. shanny Mar 2018 #32

Is he true blue or green?...nt SidDithers Mar 2018 #39

Dropping into deep Texas to personally rally liberals to... Beartracks Mar 2018 #49

That's not true. The Lubbock County Democratic Party is very active and there have been several.... George II Mar 2018 #72

You re-read it. Here: shanny Mar 2018 #88

They actually are having an event this afternoon, and have scheduled one just about every week. George II Mar 2018 #89

They could use a boost. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #112

So who was he rallying for in 70% republican Lubbock Texas? George II Mar 2018 #134

This dude, running for county commissioner... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #156

Really? He was there campaigning for Caraway? Did he even mention him during his speech? George II Mar 2018 #163

Um, that's Caraway directly behind Bernie on stage. LOL SMC22307 Mar 2018 #172

Look at their website: George II Mar 2018 #184

He spoke at their event. He's on stage with Bernie. LOL SMC22307 Mar 2018 #185

Oh I didn't realize since he didn't mention the candidate much. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #341

LOL Those grapes must REALLY be sour now that... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #464

Not at all...what you and others don't get is I just want to win period. And I don't see Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #477

+1 shanny Mar 2018 #382

Because such rallies serve no purpose...they merely bring out the GOP voters in opposition. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #351

What's he done? In the 2016 campaign he brought A LOT of issues into the Dem platform. napi21 Mar 2018 #57

Democratic issues...and the junior college proposal was Hillary's. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #342

this charge continues to be levied, and I've tried to address it over and over. Does messaging and JCanete Mar 2018 #68

Those are nebulous intangibles. I can say that I messaged and got people to demand... George II Mar 2018 #80

Well look, as to legislation, another thing I've addressed, if people get some things that JCanete Mar 2018 #84

Maybe he should be working hard for whats left... Evergreen Emerald Mar 2018 #28

Constructive criticisim isn't bashing and suggesting we win over our opponent isn't begging. nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #33

You and I see it differently. Evergreen Emerald Mar 2018 #42

Yeah, we do see it differently. nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #50

+1, it is just empty riffing. Who else does that... R B Garr Mar 2018 #62

+1 shanny Mar 2018 #29

Bernie fighting Republicans and supporting Democrats Nevernose Mar 2018 #27

But you didn't quote anything SANDERS said. George II Mar 2018 #30

people in this state should not be voting Republican. Nevernose Mar 2018 #37

It says he is promoting Our Revolution. Apparently they R B Garr Mar 2018 #40

Yes, he seems to be promoting "Our Revolution" more than the Democratic Party. George II Mar 2018 #47

Yes, it does look like third party promotion, which is just more R B Garr Mar 2018 #55

The entire event was about promoting "Our Revolution." TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #127

So it was essentially an Our Revolution fundraiser. Interesting. George II Mar 2018 #130

Looks like he is trying to take credit for the blue wave R B Garr Mar 2018 #325

Good points. Thx. n/t Beartracks Mar 2018 #34

The horror! Attendees appreciating Bernie having the nuts to wade into deep red territory and... SMC22307 Mar 2018 #43

Such an inspirational leader Kentonio Mar 2018 #31

Is that when he is retiring? MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #35

Hillary 2020! She won in spite of the nasty gratuitous R B Garr Mar 2018 #36

Feel free to encourage your preferred candidate to run again. Kentonio Mar 2018 #268

Why not, it makes as much sense. Hillary 2020. R B Garr Mar 2018 #289

You lost shenmue Mar 2018 #304

You want to talk about losing? Really? Kentonio Mar 2018 #326

God No...we need fresh faces and what is Sen. Sanders 80? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #348

What has he done to "lead"? George II Mar 2018 #44

+1 inspirational and 100% correct Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #46

I really hate that he has chosen to go after the party that allowed him to run. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #38

Would you rather he ran as an independent? nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #51

I would rather he would stay in the Senate, and then retire. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #56

Yes. I doubt we would have lost had he run as an independent. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #349

I love that Bernie still speaks Truth to Power. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #52

I wish he could sit down with someone and tweak his message ecstatic Mar 2018 #59

Correct. betsuni Mar 2018 #149

All of the folks who can't accept constructive GaryCnf Mar 2018 #64

+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2018 #92

Ugh, I didn't realize Texas primary turnout was so low! SMC22307 Mar 2018 #115

YES on Connor Lamb n/t GaryCnf Mar 2018 #118

pic..... riversedge Mar 2018 #78

I'd pose that question to people on this board trashing Sanders. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #82

And why should anyone do that? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #350

Great question BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #364

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #106

I wonder if he'll be visiting Sierra Blanca while he's in Texas. N/T lapucelle Mar 2018 #110

Perhaps Sheila Jackson Lee and Bill Clinton will visit with him. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2018 #136

If you're NOT telling people in Texas GaryCnf Mar 2018 #129

Here is what is completely missed. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #135

Talking to the people GaryCnf Mar 2018 #141

Depends how they are perceived. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #144

Also depends GaryCnf Mar 2018 #146

He's "outreaching" for Cha Mar 2018 #209

Why Blue_true Mar 2018 #157

And, show these deplorables "respect".. Cha Mar 2018 #171

The tweet that you attached by Justin Hendrix is how I feel. Blue_true Mar 2018 #188

If he's not actively supporting the Democrat who is MineralMan Mar 2018 #166

Believe it or not GaryCnf Mar 2018 #175

And looking at primary turnout GaryCnf Mar 2018 #178

Instead, he's bashing the Democratic Cha Mar 2018 #183

See post 129 n/t GaryCnf Mar 2018 #196

No. Cha Mar 2018 #198

Then continue to enjoy the losses. SMC22307 Mar 2018 #203

A shame he doesn't like O'Rourke. JNelson6563 Mar 2018 #208

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All you have are insults and personal attacks. Cha Mar 2018 #237

Look in a mirror. KTM Mar 2018 #239

Read your own insulting, attack words. Cha Mar 2018 #242

Likewise. KTM Mar 2018 #244

Whatever.. just stop your personal attacks. Cha Mar 2018 #246

"More than 4 out of 10 of our fellow Democrats supported this man and the ideas he represented... George II Mar 2018 #245

You're being paranoid.. stop putting words in Cha Mar 2018 #247

I really think you need to follow Cha Mar 2018 #292

What specifically are you referring to? And who are you calling "idiots"? George II Mar 2018 #240

Why? Because Bernie is milking a state famous for supporting third party spoilers? herding cats Mar 2018 #254

Wasn't familiar with Friedman politically. A real prize. Hortensis Mar 2018 #295

Yeah, hes a real winner. I despise him to the core of being. herding cats Mar 2018 #296

Very well said. We all know this type and Hortensis Mar 2018 #297

The ones who need to hear will still not listen. herding cats Mar 2018 #311

100%, except surely they were vulnerable Hortensis Mar 2018 #317

What 3rd party candidates ? Areyou saying this democrats that he is there supporting are 3rd party ? CentralMass Mar 2018 #353

No. herding cats Mar 2018 #354

Then what are you saying. What is a 3rd party spoiler? CentralMass Mar 2018 #371

First of all you missed half the conversation because their post was hidden herding cats Mar 2018 #372

The article cites 5 local candidate that were on stage with him. CentralMass Mar 2018 #374

Again. You missed half the conversation. Thats not what we were talking about. herding cats Mar 2018 #375

Nice dodge. Well with my set of facts, Sanders was there with 5 Democrats running for local offices. CentralMass Mar 2018 #376

I never said that about Bernie. herding cats Mar 2018 #377

I stand corrected. You said "Bernie is milking a state famous for supporting third party spoilers?" CentralMass Mar 2018 #379

Ok, I agree, youre missing something here. herding cats Mar 2018 #380

Well, we clearly won t change opinions. His visit was on his FB CentralMass Mar 2018 #383

. herding cats Mar 2018 #384

Ok, I am so sorry, but this just is not working out for me... herding cats Mar 2018 #385

Yes, his visit was on his FB. Here's what it says: George II Mar 2018 #427

It was an Our Revolution event, promoting Our revolution.... George II Mar 2018 #394

Issues with the event? George II Mar 2018 #412

Um, read my other posts in this sub thread. herding cats Mar 2018 #378

I had communication with the owner of this hidden post. You are being disingenuous. The facts arel CentralMass Mar 2018 #386

Dude thats too creepy. herding cats Mar 2018 #387

The article linked in the post has all of this information CentralMass Mar 2018 #390

Dude, what in the hell are on about!? herding cats Mar 2018 #391

It was an "Our Revolution" rally/promotion. That's neither Democratic nor republican.... George II Mar 2018 #392

My final reply to you. herding cats Mar 2018 #393

If you attack any more strawmen, we're going to need a bigger bale.... ehrnst Mar 2018 #396

Is this like a drunk text to the person who broke up with you? herding cats Mar 2018 #388

Rofl Cha Mar 2018 #395

Well, "the facts arel clear." betsuni Mar 2018 #400

Prescisely, Cha Mar 2018 #453

Had communication.... ehrnst Mar 2018 #401

"I had communication with the owner of that hidden post." betsuni Mar 2018 #406

... LexVegas Mar 2018 #257

Its ultra-factionalism. David__77 Mar 2018 #259

In Texas? herding cats Mar 2018 #260

Bernie said he knew nothing about Texas. herding cats Mar 2018 #263

"Sour grapes" about what? betsuni Mar 2018 #264

Thank you for articulating the ways that Bernie Sanders is endangering the country. yardwork Mar 2018 #269

It think your posts support that observation. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #273

Oh, yay. Just what Texas needs another extreme leftist spoiler to break the ballot. herding cats Mar 2018 #255

Bernie's "brand" is his perpetually fickle swing vote. ucrdem Mar 2018 #261

Good. alarimer Mar 2018 #275

I love this! MuseRider Mar 2018 #277

Thank you Senator Sanders. Well done! jalan48 Mar 2018 #373

U.S. Sen. Sanders rallies in Lubbock of all places bluedigger Mar 2018 #450

Last night's election shows how futile this is...run candidates who fit the district. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #452

This is why Democrats lose elections Mountain Mule Mar 2018 #454