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ismnotwasm

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19. So.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 11:06 AM
Mar 2018

You prefer British, Mexican, French, Canadian or Israeli politics to an American politics? That’s interesting. I fail to see the benefit as far as results. Then again, I have a horror of, say, Libertarians politics gaining traction. Parties evolve out of the nature of country, and I just don’t want to see a White Nationalist Party given a platform because enough people thinks it’s ok. Of course, I might jump right into The Feminist party, but I prefer to work with feminists within the Democratic Party.

Anyway.

We have a fairly powerful constitution with no history of monarchy. From what I have read, for now, we are stuck with a two party system, the question actually being, and probably more to your point, is which two parties. Third and other parties sway results. It’s a participatory process, where it fails is simply lack of participation, not Greens or “Independents”. They piss me off, yes. I’ll be pissed off for the rest of my life and I’m ok with it.

Trump, with his disregard for law, may change the presidency in unanticipated ways. As always, elections have consequences is the one take away from this clusterfuck we live in.

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This isn't that complicated. Adrahil Mar 2018 #1
Repugs are masters at falling in line Freddie Mar 2018 #3
This isn't that complicated either Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #4
FFS... it's not a lecture. Adrahil Mar 2018 #6
"The winner here are going to be those who figure out how to win in this system" Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #7
The first step is easy. Adrahil Mar 2018 #9
People who are not members of your party do not typically act 100% as if they were Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #21
Our system is not set up for third parties Freddie Mar 2018 #2
Yes, that is the shape of longer term fixes. Not on the immediate horizon. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #5
Not blasting Bernie Freddie Mar 2018 #8
We're on the same page. I battled against that mindset you speak of during the 2016 General Election Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #10
That's a recurring theme of your messaging in this thread. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #28
Just found an OP I wrote last year where I had done some research on this Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #29
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2018 #11
Bernie did excite students NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #12
In many world democracies a leading politial party primarily sets the national agenda Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #13
It would be interesting to compare those who are satisfied with the current system el_bryanto Mar 2018 #14
Case in point - How the GOP controls Texas dalton99a Mar 2018 #15
Yep. And the question remains... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #16
Wow Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #18
DURec leftstreet Mar 2018 #17
So. ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #19
My points were basic Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #20
The system isn't strictly binary because of primaries. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #22
Primaries are becoming the only place where we can choose between candidates Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #23
I don't see "closed" primaries as a big problem. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #25
Well I do in fact live in NY, so that might color my views... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #26
Party identification continues to fall. alarimer Mar 2018 #24
And that is why I chose to write about it. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #27
I think the sheer number of nonvoters is also important. alarimer Mar 2018 #30
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