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Mon Mar 12, 2018, 12:46 PM

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When someone works to get people not to vote or vote 3rd party, [View all] Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 OP

I agree with you so much! nt jrthin Mar 2018 #1

NO. 3rd parties have patriotic place, just not in existential crises like this Trump EMERGENCY. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #65

Third parties have no place. We have a two party system...and a third party can only act as a Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #99

American exceptionalism: thinking that the Duopoly is the only imaginable workable system. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #105

It is the only system that works here...didn't we learn anything from 16. And I used to go to JPR... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #118

Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2018 #128

George Washington actively begged us not to have a two-party system. moriah Mar 2018 #137

We have a two party system...and a third party simply is not going to work except as a spoiler...and Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #138

Who are you referring to ? CentralMass Mar 2018 #2

Don't you just love shit stirring ambiguity? nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #37

Nothing ambiguous about it... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #74

Agreed Gothmog Mar 2018 #3

Well said, Eliot. ICAM! lunamagica Mar 2018 #4

I agree. nt brer cat Mar 2018 #5

agreed. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #6

When someone is not a Dem ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #7

I agree. KPN Mar 2018 #39

Well, you have a disagreement with the owners of the site, then. Ms. Toad Mar 2018 #58

Maybe that will change in time. I am against it myself. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100

Yes, I too would like to know who the hell you're talking about? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #8

So, America should always stay a two-party state? Doodley Mar 2018 #9

Heard much from the Green party since the 2016 election? John Fante Mar 2018 #29

Just heard stein was deny deny denying Cha Mar 2018 #31

DINGDINGDING!!!!! sarah FAILIN Mar 2018 #32

Are you only concerned about the Green Party? KPN Mar 2018 #40

haven't heard anything from Gary Johnson since the election. triron Mar 2018 #48

Libertarians were booing Gary at their convention for endorsing the idea of drivers' licenses. ehrnst Mar 2018 #92

If the Green Party, or any 3rd party for that matter mcar Mar 2018 #68

Many things would have to change before a coalition government would work ehrnst Mar 2018 #91

The question isn't should but will it...and yes given our system it will...and if you look at Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #119

That's some scary shit right there. especially the "by patriots" part. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #10

+1 leftstreet Mar 2018 #13

Sounds odd for a Democrat. jalan48 Mar 2018 #27

Not really. We HAVE to get these right-wingers bent Hortensis Mar 2018 #35

Patriot sounds odd for a Democrat? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #93

+2! KPN Mar 2018 #41

The Republicans are traitors who sold out the country...if you are Patriot in my opinion, Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #120

Eliot, you should take a break. rgbecker Mar 2018 #11

The OP doesn't have the nerve to name names melman Mar 2018 #22

Nasty call out on he OP. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #25

What on earth are you even talking about? melman Mar 2018 #71

Not strange at all sarah FAILIN Mar 2018 #33

Wow melman Mar 2018 #72

As a newby with a massive 77 posts, I must admit I do not know who he was talking about....:) dameatball Mar 2018 #38

Yes, a newby would not know that... R B Garr Mar 2018 #142

Thanks. Therefore I will just post what I want to and accept the consequences.I'm good! dameatball Mar 2018 #143

Seems in this particular instance, you also lack the courage of your own convictions. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #115

Sorry melman Mar 2018 #116

Third party like Stein has been awfully quiet since Trump .. Wwcd Mar 2018 #61

I thought we were all patriots here. ehrnst Mar 2018 #94

You are over thinking this...bottom line third parties suck in general because we have two party Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #101

How is it an attack to say that those who advocate not voting or voting third party on a Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #121

I'd like to hear/see your definition of a "Patriot." rgbecker Mar 2018 #144

Who gets to determine who is a patriot? ornotna Mar 2018 #12

The same people who determine who murielm99 Mar 2018 #96

I'm ok with people voting 3rd party, agincourt Mar 2018 #14

Did you vote third party? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #95

I considered it, agincourt Mar 2018 #106

See that is where we are different. I always vote for the Democrat...and would not waste my vote on Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #133

? 2left4u Mar 2018 #15

What a disturbing post. democrank Mar 2018 #16

Definitely melman Mar 2018 #19

Funny how people pretend to not understand Cary Mar 2018 #17

Which people are you referring to? Not anyone KPN Mar 2018 #43

Art is in the eye of the beholder Cary Mar 2018 #51

Art? KPN Mar 2018 #53

Dude, you just said I wasn't talking about anyone here at DU Cary Mar 2018 #57

So what was the point? KPN Mar 2018 #59

You understood perfectly. Cary Mar 2018 #62

Meh KPN Mar 2018 #69

Here is some good advice for that: Cary Mar 2018 #75

Goo goo g'jooob! KPN Mar 2018 #76

I do not pretend to not understand you Cary Mar 2018 #77

No animosity or hostility here. KPN Mar 2018 #81

Nor do I care whether you're sorry Cary Mar 2018 #82

Lol. KPN Mar 2018 #83

Ok. Don't grow. Don't be functional. Cary Mar 2018 #84

Too much. KPN Mar 2018 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Cary Mar 2018 #86

A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for Trump Gothmog Mar 2018 #79

So people at JPR. Not here. Thank you for clarifying that. KPN Mar 2018 #112

A number of JPR posters appear to be coming back to this site Gothmog Mar 2018 #117

I see the folks here who deleted their JPR accounts and are back... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #122

Let me break it down for you. herding cats Mar 2018 #109

OK. Right. Got that. Makes sense. KPN Mar 2018 #113

Yeah, make a simple statement like I made and amazing how many have a problem with Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #50

It's a game Cary Mar 2018 #54

and definitely shunned by DUers IronLionZion Mar 2018 #18

I agree ... at the same time, who's doing that? KPN Mar 2018 #45

Ive run into it. herding cats Mar 2018 #111

Yes, when it is here, and that's what it is, it should be called out. I haven't seen any since KPN Mar 2018 #114

Well, the founding fathers did not believe in political parties. potone Mar 2018 #20

They may not have believed in political parties, but they were sure quick to develop them. haele Mar 2018 #98

Absolutely NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #21

When someone does nothing but post hysterical hate threads melman Mar 2018 #23

+1 QC Mar 2018 #24

+1 KTM Mar 2018 #87

Spot on. SixString Mar 2018 #97

I understand the motive perfectly...and I hate third parties in fact...especially Green ...it is our Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #123

You'll KNow Them When You See Them Me. Mar 2018 #26

Just the patriots? What about the super duper Patriots? jalan48 Mar 2018 #28

The Patriots lost this year fescuerescue Mar 2018 #30

Totally agree. sarah FAILIN Mar 2018 #34

K&R Gothmog Mar 2018 #36

Why are you posting this here? KPN Mar 2018 #42

Because ornotna Mar 2018 #44

Ah ... got it. Think you are right. KPN Mar 2018 #46

YES!! MoonRiver Mar 2018 #47

wow, that's a vague ass statement. Without context its pretty worthless. It could not possibly JCanete Mar 2018 #49

While I understand why Bernie resonated with a lot of young people, I think they have to be redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #52

Great line, the DNC should use it "Democracy is not sexy, it is a lot of work." Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #55

Thanks, I just get tired of some people thinking this is easy. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #56

no one is asking for free tuition Skittles Mar 2018 #110

I lived in GA when they put the Hope Scholarship in...no income level...so Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #131

Lots of those 3rd party ads were done by russia and went viral due to russian bots. lark Mar 2018 #60

Yup. Must have been one heck of a special dinner! Wwcd Mar 2018 #63

So true...and I think she knew too...I think she was in on it. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #64

Why is it that third party candidates only run for President and not the Senate or Congress first? world wide wally Mar 2018 #66

In Stein's case it was to take votes from Hillary and elect Trump. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #70

K&R mcar Mar 2018 #67

I think that this is wrong and jimlup Mar 2018 #73

USA is bianary. coke OR pepsi. pansypoo53219 Mar 2018 #78

It sure makes me glad I don't live in the Manichean States of America The_jackalope Mar 2018 #80

Where do you live pray tell? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #124

You don't need to pray, just ask. I'll tell you. The_jackalope Mar 2018 #136

Lucky you...Canada is pretty good from where I sit. your system is different than ours. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #139

For this thread Gothmog Mar 2018 #88

Well stated. And one can get 3rd party candidates more votes even while PRETENDING not to. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #89

Kind of like saying, in essence, "Vote for Democrats even though they're doing little to help you"! George II Mar 2018 #90

So true. A little positive messaging for Democrats would go a lot further than rgbecker Mar 2018 #102

I worry more zipplewrath Mar 2018 #104

That is exactly right...or how hopeless our situation is...sigh types. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #125

That doesn't happen melman Mar 2018 #134

Bullshit HopeAgain Mar 2018 #103

If they don't like the two party system than why are they here? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #127

Because they are Americans? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #129

This is Democratic Underground we support Democrats. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #130

I read your response as asking why they were here in the States HopeAgain Mar 2018 #135

There are registered Republicans here...this I know because one stalked me...no I don't know his Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #140

DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2018 #107

agree n/t okieinpain Mar 2018 #108

I know for a fact that there are registered Republicans here...with sign ons who come here to cause Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #126

Agreed. They are basically committing a type of fraud, the most glaring R B Garr Mar 2018 #141