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6. Agree. Theres always a type of psychobabble about the two party system and

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:03 PM

Mar 2018

If it’s from intelligent, well informed people it’s wholly disingenuous given the history of American politics. More often, we see it from the under-informed or the mis-informed.

It’s not hard to google “history of two party system, United States of America” though, so ignorance is not an excuse

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Anyone you see making our TWO PARTY choice out as NEGATIVE, i.e. more or less stating that while one [View all] Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 OP

Correct Me. Mar 2018 #1

Especially in our current crisis dalton99a Mar 2018 #4

Not necessarily left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #2

That's nothing more than an excuse Cary Mar 2018 #3

huh? left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #5

Perhaps I misread you Cary Mar 2018 #8

Libertarians also appeal to those who maybe liberal on some issues. bettyellen Mar 2018 #9

The Republicans are wrong. Many young people are drawn to Libertarians because pnwmom Mar 2018 #49

without a doubt the progressive third parties help the GOP...and their criticism of the party costs Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #98

"the progressive third parties help the GOP" left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #99

Yeah...so called progressives like the Greens...remember the Russian princess Jill Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100

And consider Nader who gave us United, two wars, and economic debacle with katrina thrown in for Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #101

Nader's not a progressive left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #106

He was a Green...and you are right...they are wacko...why do they call themselves Green? I see no Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #115

Agree. Theres always a type of psychobabble about the two party system and ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #6

Absolutely! pandr32 Mar 2018 #7

I ... HAVE ... ZERO ... TIME ... FOR ... THAT ... SHIT Cosmocat Mar 2018 #10

Doesn't sound like you're a feckless twit, CosmoCat. Hortensis Mar 2018 #84

The reference was more to the party itself Cosmocat Mar 2018 #88

Seriously, I'm absolutely sure there are far, Hortensis Mar 2018 #89

Vote Democratic! sheshe2 Mar 2018 #11

Who is saying that they are both a problem? n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #12

I continually keep hearing about the "lesser of two evils" choices BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #16

If you don't get to vote for a person whom you are pleased to have represent you Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #17

That Drum beat is hurtful to the project at hand....Getting Trump out of the WH BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #18

We are talking on a Democratic Board Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #23

All that god damn NOSE holding bullshit worked to reduce the number of people voting. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #26

When one regularly hears mcar Mar 2018 #29

Exactly. Or if you are told as a young voter that you can insist on perfection in your candidate Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #32

Yes, it is mcar Mar 2018 #34

Oh. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #46

Oh yeah! mcar Mar 2018 #50

Yep... sheshe2 Mar 2018 #61

Thats shit republicans spew to make Iahotdog Mar 2018 #78

I am. Orsino Mar 2018 #90

I would vehemently disagree with you ordinarily. poboy2 Mar 2018 #13

Obviously at this time more than others. But I also think people need to Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #14

our constitution does not have provisions for a coalition government Fresh_Start Mar 2018 #15

We will never, ever, ever have a 3 party system that last more than one cycle GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #79

I don't expect everyone to understand the point of my post. poboy2 Mar 2018 #81

Someone like me? GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #82

Agreed. I'll cling to the party that promotes progressive change... Orsino Mar 2018 #91

I agree with you...but I have looked into third parties in Europe...they often lead to minority Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #102

Exactly!! peggysue2 Mar 2018 #114

It is the winning argument. poboy2 Mar 2018 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author KPN Mar 2018 #19

They're just not patriots! leftstreet Mar 2018 #20

Better yet, I'm not going to play. KPN Mar 2018 #21

Are you saying you're glad the US electoral system encourages just two parties? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #22

Of course not. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #25

OK, "making our two party choice out as negative" sounds like that muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #37

If you cant view what I am saying in the context of what we are facing then I cant Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #38

Broadbrush much? GeorgeGist Mar 2018 #24

3rd parties need to build from the bottom mcar Mar 2018 #27

But where is the fun and excitement in that? I am a 24 year old person who didnt Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #28

I have faith in our young voters mcar Mar 2018 #30

Agreed. Salviati Mar 2018 #39

Yes mcar Mar 2018 #45

I would prefer a parliamentary system myself. Vinca Mar 2018 #31

I would prefer to own my own island and live in a mansion... Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #33

Me, too! Just waiting for that giant lottery win. LOL. Vinca Mar 2018 #36

Mega Millions tomorrow night, Power Ball Wednesday. Both in the hundreds of millions. George II Mar 2018 #43

I know a TON of people... vi5 Mar 2018 #35

Who is doing that? melman Mar 2018 #40

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still_one Mar 2018 #48

Very interesting. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #54

Yikes...look at THAT Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #57

And it had more than 330 recs here on DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! There have been so many more, too. George II Mar 2018 #58

Haha.. things have changed a bit Cha Mar 2018 #68

In some ways, yes. But sadly in some ways no. George II Mar 2018 #70

I heard Cha Mar 2018 #73

Alrighty then. ehrnst Mar 2018 #85

I think that poster is now over on JPR Gothmog Mar 2018 #96

Visit Twitter mcar Mar 2018 #51

No one owes you an answer Cary Mar 2018 #59

Maybe he thinks its another hate thread JustAnotherGen Mar 2018 #93

You're over thinking IMHO Cary Mar 2018 #94

Have you ever visited the JPR site? Gothmog Mar 2018 #95

What I've seen is a little more direct, one isn't as bad as the other. We seen it all the time. George II Mar 2018 #41

Elsewhere I just witnessed some undercover FSB agents talking about how Rachel Maddow Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #42

The term I've seen used more than once is "Democrats suck less". On this site! George II Mar 2018 #44

Those types are so Cha Mar 2018 #47

People like that allow others do their "thinking" for them... and they question nothing. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #55

Prescisely, Jackie! Cha Mar 2018 #56

Yep. paleotn Mar 2018 #53

Shaun King on Twitter today mcar Mar 2018 #52

I could post some quotes of Sanders himself, but......... George II Mar 2018 #64

The two parties both have members and policies that are agreeable and disagreeable. FarCenter Mar 2018 #60

I think that there are some who want the Dems to adopt a manifesto ehrnst Mar 2018 #83

OFFS. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #62

Ever notice jes06c Mar 2018 #63

Yep, Ive see that very same thing. herding cats Mar 2018 #75

welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2018 #120

A two party choice is a negative. I'd argue instead that your scary ass platitudes are part of the JCanete Mar 2018 #65

"We should have a better system", but we don't. Until that time, which is better: George II Mar 2018 #69

I recognized that this is what we have in my post. I still hate ops like this. It should be JCanete Mar 2018 #71

In my very last class in college (now more than 45 years ago) we were addressed.... George II Mar 2018 #74

We discuss all the time about how things should be...what kind of fight we should be fighting... JCanete Mar 2018 #77

I think Democrats shouild allow Independents to vote in our primaries for one thing Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #86

Most people will split the difference. Orsino Mar 2018 #92

I overheard two people in a coffee shop saying this. Is there a hotline I can call and report them? jalan48 Mar 2018 #66

hahaha! JCanete Mar 2018 #72

Yup 212-479-7990 stevenleser Mar 2018 #80

The two party choice is a negative Devil Child Mar 2018 #67

Putin tactics orangecrush Mar 2018 #76

And the bullshit talking points like "this with us or against us stuff" Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #87

Correct...the halfway support I saw in 16 undoubtedly turned voter off to the Dem Party. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #97

+ a million. Wwcd Mar 2018 #104

Broken record? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #103

Gonna break my rule Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #105

No I don't know that HopeAgain Mar 2018 #113

I'm going to vote Democratic rock Mar 2018 #107

OK but dont say it in front of people who might then NOT vote, deal? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #108

No problem rock Mar 2018 #109

You "wouldn't have voted for DOTUS if he was a Democrat?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #110

Trump could have run as a Democrat rock Mar 2018 #111

FYI - the Dem voters decide who is on the Dem ticket, not the DNC. ehrnst Mar 2018 #112

Why do I have to explain the simplest things to you? rock Mar 2018 #116

I was correcting you on how the Dem presidential candidate is picked. You're welcome. ehrnst Mar 2018 #117

"... Super delegates could save the country..." rock Mar 2018 #118