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Eliot Rosewater

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14. Obviously at this time more than others. But I also think people need to

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 02:39 PM

Mar 2018

stop with the nose holding attitude bullshit, it is why we have trump.

If you go into any election with the presumption that the democrat is only better because they are not a GOP, then you really dont know what you are talking about but more importantly the people you influence with that attitude, they are the ones I worry about.

Are they gonna then say fuck it, not worth it, and not vote? Sadly many will do just that.

ESPECIALLY the millennial, who has been sold on an idea that isnt really workable in the short run, many of them have anyway.

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Anyone you see making our TWO PARTY choice out as NEGATIVE, i.e. more or less stating that while one [View all] Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 OP

Correct Me. Mar 2018 #1

Especially in our current crisis dalton99a Mar 2018 #4

Not necessarily left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #2

That's nothing more than an excuse Cary Mar 2018 #3

huh? left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #5

Perhaps I misread you Cary Mar 2018 #8

Libertarians also appeal to those who maybe liberal on some issues. bettyellen Mar 2018 #9

The Republicans are wrong. Many young people are drawn to Libertarians because pnwmom Mar 2018 #49

without a doubt the progressive third parties help the GOP...and their criticism of the party costs Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #98

"the progressive third parties help the GOP" left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #99

Yeah...so called progressives like the Greens...remember the Russian princess Jill Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100

And consider Nader who gave us United, two wars, and economic debacle with katrina thrown in for Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #101

Nader's not a progressive left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #106

He was a Green...and you are right...they are wacko...why do they call themselves Green? I see no Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #115

Agree. Theres always a type of psychobabble about the two party system and ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #6

Absolutely! pandr32 Mar 2018 #7

I ... HAVE ... ZERO ... TIME ... FOR ... THAT ... SHIT Cosmocat Mar 2018 #10

Doesn't sound like you're a feckless twit, CosmoCat. Hortensis Mar 2018 #84

The reference was more to the party itself Cosmocat Mar 2018 #88

Seriously, I'm absolutely sure there are far, Hortensis Mar 2018 #89

Vote Democratic! sheshe2 Mar 2018 #11

Who is saying that they are both a problem? n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #12

I continually keep hearing about the "lesser of two evils" choices BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #16

If you don't get to vote for a person whom you are pleased to have represent you Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #17

That Drum beat is hurtful to the project at hand....Getting Trump out of the WH BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #18

We are talking on a Democratic Board Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #23

All that god damn NOSE holding bullshit worked to reduce the number of people voting. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #26

When one regularly hears mcar Mar 2018 #29

Exactly. Or if you are told as a young voter that you can insist on perfection in your candidate Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #32

Yes, it is mcar Mar 2018 #34

Oh. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #46

Oh yeah! mcar Mar 2018 #50

Yep... sheshe2 Mar 2018 #61

Thats shit republicans spew to make Iahotdog Mar 2018 #78

I am. Orsino Mar 2018 #90

I would vehemently disagree with you ordinarily. poboy2 Mar 2018 #13

Obviously at this time more than others. But I also think people need to Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #14

our constitution does not have provisions for a coalition government Fresh_Start Mar 2018 #15

We will never, ever, ever have a 3 party system that last more than one cycle GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #79

I don't expect everyone to understand the point of my post. poboy2 Mar 2018 #81

Someone like me? GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #82

Agreed. I'll cling to the party that promotes progressive change... Orsino Mar 2018 #91

I agree with you...but I have looked into third parties in Europe...they often lead to minority Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #102

Exactly!! peggysue2 Mar 2018 #114

It is the winning argument. poboy2 Mar 2018 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author KPN Mar 2018 #19

They're just not patriots! leftstreet Mar 2018 #20

Better yet, I'm not going to play. KPN Mar 2018 #21

Are you saying you're glad the US electoral system encourages just two parties? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #22

Of course not. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #25

OK, "making our two party choice out as negative" sounds like that muriel_volestrangler Mar 2018 #37

If you cant view what I am saying in the context of what we are facing then I cant Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #38

Broadbrush much? GeorgeGist Mar 2018 #24

3rd parties need to build from the bottom mcar Mar 2018 #27

But where is the fun and excitement in that? I am a 24 year old person who didnt Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #28

I have faith in our young voters mcar Mar 2018 #30

Agreed. Salviati Mar 2018 #39

Yes mcar Mar 2018 #45

I would prefer a parliamentary system myself. Vinca Mar 2018 #31

I would prefer to own my own island and live in a mansion... Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #33

Me, too! Just waiting for that giant lottery win. LOL. Vinca Mar 2018 #36

Mega Millions tomorrow night, Power Ball Wednesday. Both in the hundreds of millions. George II Mar 2018 #43

I know a TON of people... vi5 Mar 2018 #35

Who is doing that? melman Mar 2018 #40

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still_one Mar 2018 #48

Very interesting. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #54

Yikes...look at THAT Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #57

And it had more than 330 recs here on DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! There have been so many more, too. George II Mar 2018 #58

Haha.. things have changed a bit Cha Mar 2018 #68

In some ways, yes. But sadly in some ways no. George II Mar 2018 #70

I heard Cha Mar 2018 #73

Alrighty then. ehrnst Mar 2018 #85

I think that poster is now over on JPR Gothmog Mar 2018 #96

Visit Twitter mcar Mar 2018 #51

No one owes you an answer Cary Mar 2018 #59

Maybe he thinks its another hate thread JustAnotherGen Mar 2018 #93

You're over thinking IMHO Cary Mar 2018 #94

Have you ever visited the JPR site? Gothmog Mar 2018 #95

What I've seen is a little more direct, one isn't as bad as the other. We seen it all the time. George II Mar 2018 #41

Elsewhere I just witnessed some undercover FSB agents talking about how Rachel Maddow Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #42

The term I've seen used more than once is "Democrats suck less". On this site! George II Mar 2018 #44

Those types are so Cha Mar 2018 #47

People like that allow others do their "thinking" for them... and they question nothing. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #55

Prescisely, Jackie! Cha Mar 2018 #56

Yep. paleotn Mar 2018 #53

Shaun King on Twitter today mcar Mar 2018 #52

I could post some quotes of Sanders himself, but......... George II Mar 2018 #64

The two parties both have members and policies that are agreeable and disagreeable. FarCenter Mar 2018 #60

I think that there are some who want the Dems to adopt a manifesto ehrnst Mar 2018 #83

OFFS. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #62

Ever notice jes06c Mar 2018 #63

Yep, Ive see that very same thing. herding cats Mar 2018 #75

welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2018 #120

A two party choice is a negative. I'd argue instead that your scary ass platitudes are part of the JCanete Mar 2018 #65

"We should have a better system", but we don't. Until that time, which is better: George II Mar 2018 #69

I recognized that this is what we have in my post. I still hate ops like this. It should be JCanete Mar 2018 #71

In my very last class in college (now more than 45 years ago) we were addressed.... George II Mar 2018 #74

We discuss all the time about how things should be...what kind of fight we should be fighting... JCanete Mar 2018 #77

I think Democrats shouild allow Independents to vote in our primaries for one thing Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #86

Most people will split the difference. Orsino Mar 2018 #92

I overheard two people in a coffee shop saying this. Is there a hotline I can call and report them? jalan48 Mar 2018 #66

hahaha! JCanete Mar 2018 #72

Yup 212-479-7990 stevenleser Mar 2018 #80

The two party choice is a negative Devil Child Mar 2018 #67

Putin tactics orangecrush Mar 2018 #76

And the bullshit talking points like "this with us or against us stuff" Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #87

Correct...the halfway support I saw in 16 undoubtedly turned voter off to the Dem Party. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #97

+ a million. Wwcd Mar 2018 #104

Broken record? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #103

Gonna break my rule Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #105

No I don't know that HopeAgain Mar 2018 #113

I'm going to vote Democratic rock Mar 2018 #107

OK but dont say it in front of people who might then NOT vote, deal? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #108

No problem rock Mar 2018 #109

You "wouldn't have voted for DOTUS if he was a Democrat?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #110

Trump could have run as a Democrat rock Mar 2018 #111

FYI - the Dem voters decide who is on the Dem ticket, not the DNC. ehrnst Mar 2018 #112

Why do I have to explain the simplest things to you? rock Mar 2018 #116

I was correcting you on how the Dem presidential candidate is picked. You're welcome. ehrnst Mar 2018 #117

"... Super delegates could save the country..." rock Mar 2018 #118