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NurseJackie

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73. Yes, indeed... "fresh faces" and...

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #69)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:15 PM

Mar 2018

... LESSON LEARNED!

he will not win a Democratic Primary in 20...we have moved on...

Agreed. Most of us have. There are still some hangers-on, some dilly-dalliers, and some who still won't let go. I firmly believe, however, that our party's nominee for 2020 will be someone who has NOT run for president before.

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Bernie Sanders in Phoenix: Senator encourages supporters to fight for change, riles opponents [View all] Donkees Mar 2018 OP

More sour grapes about the primary. R B Garr Mar 2018 #1

That's too bad.. Cha Mar 2018 #2

It is very oppressive. I have also noticed people questioing his R B Garr Mar 2018 #3

So you are all with the Trump lovers that were heckling him ? CentralMass Mar 2018 #5

That's ridiculous.. Just because BS gets called out.. Cha Mar 2018 #17

What you are selling is out of touch with the reality. CentralMass Mar 2018 #33

Just stop the personal attacks. Cha Mar 2018 #35

There was no personal attack. CentralMass Mar 2018 #41

The point is that Bernie has not been a Democrat his entire life TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #38

+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #40

Rallies serve other purposes than "outreach" ehrnst Mar 2018 #98

Exactly. He is just going to Texas to take credit for R B Garr Mar 2018 #135

There is a difference between criticism and bashing. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #49

The diffeeence between manure and crap? David__77 Mar 2018 #82

I think that it's more like the difference between working manure into the soil ehrnst Mar 2018 #97

Speaking of selling, endless corruption insinuations R B Garr Mar 2018 #60

Bravo. marble falls Mar 2018 #62

+++ pangaia Mar 2018 #79

I dont like you being accused of being like a trump supporter, that really pisses me off Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #76

I know, Eliot.. however.. that's Cha Mar 2018 #78

If you think about it...who else is holding rallies at this particular moment? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #124

GMAB. Sanders did a lot of damage to the DREAMERS aand other immigrants when he lunamagica Mar 2018 #56

Oh, please. Who hasnt heard his stump speech a million R B Garr Mar 2018 #59

lol.. Looks like it worked.. Cha Mar 2018 #67

Remarkable. Amazing. And will it work? Will it dampen voting from the left? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #77

Who is being divisive? babylonsister Mar 2018 #9

Bernie Sanders. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #44

Bringing up the primary and implying corruption and R B Garr Mar 2018 #58

so you want peops waiting 7 hours to vote? questionseverything Mar 2018 #81

The victimization and corruption insinuations are tiresome. nt R B Garr Mar 2018 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Mar 2018 #4

Soooooo... 3sam3 Mar 2018 #6

Welcome to DU! Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #8

I agree, and thank you for posting. femmedem Mar 2018 #10

Since when have Democrat not been behind those things? ehrnst Mar 2018 #51

Same as it ever was, and babylonsister Mar 2018 #11

Strange, isn't it?! demmiblue Mar 2018 #16

Thank you! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2018 #45

Welcome to DU. LongTomH Mar 2018 #46

Yup. +1 nt Arazi Mar 2018 #48

Bernie didn't invent those things ehrnst Mar 2018 #50

+1000 G_j Mar 2018 #57

+1 leftstreet Mar 2018 #68

++++1111 KPN Mar 2018 #83

Excellent! Owl Mar 2018 #7

Bernie attacks republicons! RandiFan1290 Mar 2018 #12

No, BS attacked the Democratic Cha Mar 2018 #13

No he didn't. CentralMass Mar 2018 #14

And, it's not the first time.. Cha Mar 2018 #15

Did you ever consider he might be right? nt babylonsister Mar 2018 #18

I don't have to consider it.. because Cha Mar 2018 #20

I'm so tired of the false claim that Democrats ignore the poor/middle class. betsuni Mar 2018 #25

Oh wow.. a friendly face! Cha Mar 2018 #29

You are one of the most dedicated Democratic supporters I've ever seen. betsuni Mar 2018 #31

lol Well... Cha Mar 2018 #34

Who makes that claim? What I hear is people KPN Mar 2018 #86

Low-income voters chose the Democratic candidate in the last election over the Republican. betsuni Mar 2018 #93

Did he insinuate that? I don't see that at all. Seems a stretch. KPN Mar 2018 #138

No he didn't. KPN Mar 2018 #85

Are you saying it is or isn't an attack? ehrnst Mar 2018 #47

That's definitely not bashing. I'm a Democrat and I agree with Bernie. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #88

So you are saying that you agree with Sanders that ehrnst Mar 2018 #95

Not as strong as we should be - yes aikoaiko Mar 2018 #100

What do you mean "Should be"? ehrnst Mar 2018 #102

Really? Are those words unknown to you? aikoaiko Mar 2018 #103

Nice try. I'm asking you to specify what you mean by that. ehrnst Mar 2018 #104

Currently we are helping Republicans deregulate the banks aikoaiko Mar 2018 #105

I guess if you want to see it that way....BS talked about the past as well. ehrnst Mar 2018 #106

The Iraq War Resolution and providing extra bankruptcy protections to to credit card companies aikoaiko Mar 2018 #107

That's it? Two times where Dems were "weak or lazy" (not as strong as they should be)? ehrnst Mar 2018 #109

i dont know. You should send him an email. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #112

But do the positions I listed "resonate" with you like when Dems "supported GOP positions" 2 times? ehrnst Mar 2018 #113

No, but I see youre trying to change the subject aikoaiko Mar 2018 #116

Actually, you avoided answering the question. ehrnst Mar 2018 #117

That's funny that you should cite cognitive dissonance. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #127

Let's unpack this: ehrnst Mar 2018 #129

Ok, so let me answer new questions. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #130

The two factors that all of these votes on that list have in common are: ehrnst Mar 2018 #131

Without rehashing everything, even if it is true that I don't hold Bernie to the same standards aikoaiko Mar 2018 #132

That wasn't the question, and no one here thinks that the party is beyond improvement. ehrnst Mar 2018 #134

I think we disagree on the metrics. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #136

What metrics do you think we differ on? ehrnst Mar 2018 #139

I have to end this with this reply and let you have the final word aikoaiko Mar 2018 #142

So Bernie, in this speech is appealing to the "disaffected on the left" ehrnst Mar 2018 #143

Mahalo for all the enlightening Cha Mar 2018 #115

+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #118

OMG TWO TIMES. betsuni Mar 2018 #120

Can you imagine... Hortensis Mar 2018 #119

So you are saying that you agree with Sanders that ehrnst Mar 2018 #96

No...he is not right...and should stop saying stuff like that. We need to win in 18 and 20...sour Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #70

+1 KPN Mar 2018 #84

Thanks Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #125

And the truth hurts?! Paka Mar 2018 #19

No, the truth is Wonderful. BS Cha Mar 2018 #22

This (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #110

Mahalo, Cha Mar 2018 #114

I'm a life long Democrat and i see nothing wrong with his comments.. CentralMass Mar 2018 #24

Well, I do. No one is ignoring the issues.. the Democratic Cha Mar 2018 #26

There are no issues...that concern Sanders who is not a Democrat and has been treated Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #71

Soooo... 3sam3 Mar 2018 #27

the quote is wrong. Cha Mar 2018 #28

If you are going to leave may I suggest you spend every waking moment dedicated to Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Mar 2018 #91

This last election is meaningless... some Sanders supporters and others apparently fell for the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #72

I'll never forget when he called for "death to the dino fascist wing of the Dem" QC Mar 2018 #21

Everybody is over that but you ... you Cha Mar 2018 #23

What in the hell is with pulling really old quotes from board members here? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #53

Oh yeah.. it's their go to.. Cha Mar 2018 #65

Many here see it just the opposite. That's why it's foolish. KPN Mar 2018 #87

Yeah, the only ones who drag that out Cha Mar 2018 #94

Huh? I wasn't saying anything about 2008. My comment was about KPN Mar 2018 #140

Ok.. sorry then.. I butted in. n/t Cha Mar 2018 #141

Illuminating link RandiFan1290 Mar 2018 #30

Oh yeah? From 10 years ago.. what Cha Mar 2018 #36

Some folks are angry that others can evolve, learn, etc. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #54

Mahalo, Eliot.. Everyone Cha Mar 2018 #64

Exactly! I guess no one can change their mind about Bernie! R B Garr Mar 2018 #137

Really? You dug up a TEN YEAR OLD POST on a previous iteration of DU? Wow.... George II Mar 2018 #61

Yes, that's their MO, George.. Cha Mar 2018 #66

I bet there are other quotes out there that you might not like so much...not cool. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #74

The opinions change... SixString Mar 2018 #111

If only he'd campaigned that hard during the 2016 General Election...nt SidDithers Mar 2018 #32

Thanks, Sid Cha Mar 2018 #37

Boy, you got it there GaryCnf Mar 2018 #39

Nailed it. "If only" ... is the perfect observation. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #42

+1 yes, like the primary that he was in is the only thing that R B Garr Mar 2018 #55

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #99

Sanders repeats his stump speech from the early 1900's. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #43

''...more personal campaign rallies in the last three weeks than he did for Clinton..." marble falls Mar 2018 #63

And it will all be for nothing...he will not win a Democratic Primary in 20...we have moved on... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #69

Yes, indeed... "fresh faces" and... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #73

I feel sad for them...being a Deaniac, I well remember how it hurt, but I voted for Kerry and did Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #75

Agree. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #101

Forget 2020. Think November 2018. marble falls Mar 2018 #80

Well insinuating that he was 'robbed' and sowing division...look at this thread...sure Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #126

Bernie is a part of the Democratic Party Leadership and charged with outreach aikoaiko Mar 2018 #108

A job created for him that never existed before...and no offense, but I have not seen much evidence Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #121

He is not doing a good job. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #146

Absolutely. No Bernie Sanders run or Hillary Clinton run either. No one my age or older. But in .... marble falls Mar 2018 #144

I agree completely. I want to turn out the vote and spewing insults at the Democratic Party will not Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #145

Bernie's consistency, especially compared to others, is what many people like about him. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #89

I don't think he has widespread support...consider that we don't know how much the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #122

Thank you, Bernie. There aren't many who can walk into AZ and bring in Democrats and lefties aikoaiko Mar 2018 #90

I prefer precincts to rallies. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #123

Sure, but rallies can help bring people to voting precints. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #128

I don't call what he did outreach...I am giving him the benefit of the doubt ...but just like Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #133

"but these rallies...I don't see the point" --- I see the point. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #147