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150. Not to the detriment of the party...

Reply to mcar (Reply #97)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:12 PM

Mar 2018

... and candidates who still have a chance to win.

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Dear Hillary, I wish you did not say this [View all] question everything Mar 2018 OP

She's correct...I often Rethug say they voted that way because of HipChick Mar 2018 #1

Even if true, nothing can be gained from brining it to the front question everything Mar 2018 #3

Nothing can be gained from the truth?!?! TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #34

Of course we should be honest about this pandr32 Mar 2018 #74

It is an issue of winning vs losing elections ollie10 Mar 2018 #201

Stop pushing RW spin. It excuses their crimes. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #203

wow....just wow! ollie10 Mar 2018 #208

Yet "everything wrong" always & only ever seems to be a new attack on Clinton. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #210

who said "everything wrong"? ollie10 Mar 2018 #214

And you wonder why the minority party - the Republicans - win? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #217

you didn't answer the question? any particular reason? ollie10 Mar 2018 #218

GET OVER YOURSELF! YOU"RE NOT MY FUCKING INTERROGATOR! TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #220

Does SHOUTING help? ollie10 Mar 2018 #234

No one owes you anything n/t emulatorloo Mar 2018 #231

Methinks the poster doth protest ... too much. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #239

Not this truth, and not now. Orsino Mar 2018 #206

If not now, when? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #209

Everything you just said is helpful in ways the Clinton quote isn't. Orsino Mar 2018 #211

Seems that for some people, nothing Clinton can or may ever say will ever be helpful, uh? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #212

Most of what she says is more than helpful. Vital, even. Orsino Mar 2018 #219

No, this is the type of thing that needs to be heard. From all Democrats. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #221

She should have rephrased her thoughts, just as you did, without sacrifing truth. Orsino Mar 2018 #227

You're contradicting yourself. Should HRC & other Dems be able to speak on these issues or not? TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #228

The Hill is not our friend unc70 Mar 2018 #48

I have noticed that as well. And a number of people here ms liberty Mar 2018 #90

They don't fall," these messages resonate Hortensis Mar 2018 #108

Same negativism as Fox and RT, just subtled down a bit, Hortensis Mar 2018 #104

The Hill went on my BS list when their Editor-in-Chief repeatedly appeared on... Hugin Mar 2018 #194

Need to DISTANCE ourselves from Hillary?!!! Hortensis Mar 2018 #58

I stand with Hillary mcar Mar 2018 #78

She is not even running again. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #89

She is a respected stateswoman with a long history/experience mcar Mar 2018 #97

Not to the detriment of the party... Baconator Mar 2018 #150

It's a "detriment" to the Republican Party and Hortensis Mar 2018 #199

Yes. They still fear her. Hillary nastiness is also Hortensis Mar 2018 #101

Please define "they" question everything Mar 2018 #141

Aaaaah. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #148

vote totals Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #154

Exactly. And it's not as if the Hillary deranged Hortensis Mar 2018 #200

We don't need Trump country radius777 Mar 2018 #166

Totally this. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #170

FUCK OFF Greg GUTfeld! GWC58 Mar 2018 #140

Seriously! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #180

It is true and quite frankly, you're not listening to what Dems are saying, Ninsianna Mar 2018 #63

I agree with everything that she said, except the comment about women voting as told question everything Mar 2018 #142

I did GOTV...and often the husband would announce in a rude way that they were voting for Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #165

"Running against leadership" is nothing new radius777 Mar 2018 #169

You are mistaken re: We all know this is not true stevenleser Mar 2018 #225

Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't EffieBlack Mar 2018 #71

Exactly... HipChick Mar 2018 #87

Everthing that she said was the truth, about the economic strenght of the districts question everything Mar 2018 #143

That's not really true... Baconator Mar 2018 #151

If someone's going to switch their vote from Claire McCaskill to her opponent in November because EffieBlack Mar 2018 #159

I think you made the point you responded to. Hortensis Mar 2018 #204

Conor Lamb Campaigned with Joe Biden. White men get a pass that others do not JI7 Mar 2018 #98

Very true. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #193

When Biden says stupid things, people think he's adorable EffieBlack Mar 2018 #197

She's her own woman who's not running anymore. She can say what she wants and it doesn't... brush Mar 2018 #133

What about "Onward?" question everything Mar 2018 #144

What about it? We should all be part of the resistance. brush Mar 2018 #145

sure it will be much better at supporting Democrats than Our Revolution...who will guarantee Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #167

Of course Hillary is more free to speak her mind, now that she's out of the running. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #185

How did that happen in Alabama and PA-18? dawg day Mar 2018 #183

Agreed pandr32 Mar 2018 #69

Besides, Lamb just ran for Congress in a Red district and WON and didn't feel compelled to have politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #84

Yes, I think she is. trof Mar 2018 #93

White women are voting the same as they have since they got the vote a 100 years ago, repubican. braddy Mar 2018 #95

I also wish she hadn't called the deplorables, deplorable Motley13 Mar 2018 #2

Shoulda said "Basket o Bad Eggs!" librechik Mar 2018 #46

"Basket of Deplorables" was a well crafted meme radius777 Mar 2018 #67

Double down?? AncientGeezer Mar 2018 #163

The "deplorables" comment move pushed my sister over the edge redstateblues Mar 2018 #83

Has she figured out what she actually said? I'm sure she wasn't alone as well, Ninsianna Mar 2018 #116

Yup, there lies the problem. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #181

She didn't. That was taken out of context, too. LisaM Mar 2018 #103

I heard all of her remarks JustAnotherGen Mar 2018 #4

Yup, fuck them. Make them admit what and why they vote the way they do JI7 Mar 2018 #12

Of course, Hillary can do and say whateva she wants, especially now that she's out of politics... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #77

And I thought I was the only one who not only agreed with her, but applauded Atticus Mar 2018 #120

Can't be mother JustAnotherGen Mar 2018 #235

"enjoyed"? nt Atticus Mar 2018 #236

Oh my! JustAnotherGen Mar 2018 #238

it was not the brightest thing to say to be sure Egnever Mar 2018 #5

Run away from what? She's not in any race. She's a free citizen again. Wwcd Mar 2018 #38

Many do not see "reproductive rights" as you do karynnj Mar 2018 #66

She didn't even come close to saying or even implying that EffieBlack Mar 2018 #75

Her words were: karynnj Mar 2018 #136

Whats not true about that? EffieBlack Mar 2018 #146

I am a white woman karynnj Mar 2018 #157

She didn't say all or most white women. She was clearly referring to a specific segment EffieBlack Mar 2018 #161

Please point out where she used the word some in describing which women are pressured by men mythology Mar 2018 #171

She didn't use the word "some" - because it wasn't necessary EffieBlack Mar 2018 #188

Omg. You can save the Hillary discrediting. She isn't ASSUMING ANYTHING Wwcd Mar 2018 #102

I commented on what HRC said -- live with it karynnj Mar 2018 #123

Its not as crazy as the bullshit posts in reply to the OP. Wwcd Mar 2018 #126

So, I am responsible for every post in the thread you dislike? karynnj Mar 2018 #129

Bye. How can anyone defend this article. Wwcd Mar 2018 #135

Damn! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #172

Um, women are not stupid. She's not assuming anything, anyone who bothers to view all Ninsianna Mar 2018 #109

You are making things up - the specific comments that I and others disagreed with karynnj Mar 2018 #117

No, I'm not. Hillary didn't belittle women, she acknowledged the reality that many Ninsianna Mar 2018 #118

There was no distortion of her words karynnj Mar 2018 #134

Not understanding words and their meanings is a distortion, there was definitely a distortion. Ninsianna Mar 2018 #186

I have no problem understanding the standard English meaning of words karynnj Mar 2018 #207

Um, I noticed that you chose to ignore what was said and decided to go off on a tangent. Ninsianna Mar 2018 #232

Also, telling women they're "making things up" when they say things that are uncomfortable Ninsianna Mar 2018 #121

As you might guess, like most Karyn's I am female karynnj Mar 2018 #128

As you might have guessed after the past several years, being female is not Ninsianna Mar 2018 #162

Thank you. Sounds like Our fking revolutuon of dividing the Party in time for the next election Wwcd Mar 2018 #119

It's a bit sexist if you ask me and fails to hold those women who voted tRump InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #187

No offense, but you are simply too biased against Clinton to accurately summarize her words. emulatorloo Mar 2018 #233

I think all the criticism of what she actually said is not the brightest, it's pretty Ninsianna Mar 2018 #62

Thank you. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #76

Exactly right! Simply doesn't help going forward. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #81

What does help going forward? Ignoring what happeend? Letting the Republican Ninsianna Mar 2018 #112

No - instead of addressing the wrongs and lies of the GOP, apparently, we're supposed to EffieBlack Mar 2018 #174

The two are not mutually exclusive... progressives have shown that. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #177

What did she say that was not true? nt pnwmom Mar 2018 #195

If you have ever MuseRider Mar 2018 #6

Not necessarily. Many white woman in the subrubs just did not like Hillary question everything Mar 2018 #11

People dont like Hillary because they believed 25 yrs of lies about her. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #23

It's not realistic to assume that everyone who didn't like her... Baconator Mar 2018 #53

Sigh ... EffieBlack Mar 2018 #79

+1 happy feet Mar 2018 #160

They like the serial cheater who admits he molests women and hate Hillary becasue she stayed w bill bettyellen Mar 2018 #29

They voted for a pussy grabber, bigoted filth. Fuck them and those who defend them JI7 Mar 2018 #35

Yup. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #100

Pretty much just screams, that Hillary damn well knows what she's talking about Wwcd Mar 2018 #124

That a woman would be proud of that shirt. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #131

If only I could have three minutes with this woman EffieBlack Mar 2018 #176

So true,Effie. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #205

Would hate that too... good point. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #192

So agree,heard it thousands of time. Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #13

A bit like Obama's "they are clinging to God and Bible" comment hlthe2b Mar 2018 #7

One of those statements was made by a Presidential candidate. The other by a private citizen. Squinch Mar 2018 #27

I never said she did. hlthe2b Mar 2018 #44

I know you didn't, but I have no problem with the fact that we have a well-listened-to Squinch Mar 2018 #80

Obama was correct - we need to slap some truth into these people, radius777 Mar 2018 #86

Attitude Change is slow. It is sped by political change. Political change requires votes. hlthe2b Mar 2018 #99

Great points. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #189

how dare she encourage people to think for themselves! unblock Mar 2018 #8

Shaming someone will not bring more Democrats to the House and to the senate question everything Mar 2018 #17

i'm not a purist, i'm a pragmatist. i want more democrats in congress and to win the white house. unblock Mar 2018 #21

If at this stage, with what they've seen of Trump, these women will refuse to vote against him EffieBlack Mar 2018 #82

So why waste the breath to shame a woman who called it like it is? Ninsianna Mar 2018 #106

Aimee Parnes? Wouldn't waste my time. n/t seaglass Mar 2018 #9

How dare she have an opinion based in provable fact? Smelling salts, please! Hekate Mar 2018 #10

She's. Not. Running. Again. hatrack Mar 2018 #14

But she is still part of the image of the Democratic party question everything Mar 2018 #18

That certainly gives Hillary more leeway to say what's really on her mind... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #191

Oh brother..... vi5 Mar 2018 #15

Don't give a shit. More Hillary-bashing. Aristus Mar 2018 #16

They are deplorables and she has nothing to lose by telling the truth. Lil Missy Mar 2018 #19

At this point, you're right, Hillary has nothing to lose, unlike active Democratic politicians. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #184

She can say whatever she wants. Whenever she wants. Guilded Lilly Mar 2018 #20

Women are perfectly capable of racism on their own. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2018 #22

Totally agree..last time I checked no one walks into the voting booth with women.. noel1237 Mar 2018 #54

And now we're being told accuracy is bad for imagine too. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #24

A) What she said is true. B) She's a private citizen and gets to say whatever the hell she wants. Squinch Mar 2018 #25

Thank you! displacedtexan Mar 2018 #43

This is a big point that I think we don't yet understand. If we treated all this Squinch Mar 2018 #72

Exactly. dalton99a Mar 2018 #222

I'm so tired of hearing "progressives" having as many problems with her as RWNJs do SFnomad Mar 2018 #26

Nothing more "progressive" than telling the Icon of the "Women's Rights are Human Rights" Speech Wwcd Mar 2018 #42

Hillary stands up for the true Dem base, radius777 Mar 2018 #28

Yes, she spoke some important truths about voters. bettyellen Mar 2018 #31

" not the populist Dixiecrat image that some want to go back to" melman Mar 2018 #39

Think you have it exactly right. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #179

Absolutely true Awsi Dooger Mar 2018 #30

Thats my girl. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #32

I wish Obama hadn't said clinging to their guns and religion and mythology Mar 2018 #33

Trump insults Hillary and others every chance he gets. Where is the outcry for him to stop? Justice Mar 2018 #36

My twitter observation: All the deplorables are super defensive and denying ecstatic Mar 2018 #37

That's all well and good. But why are progressives piling on with them? EffieBlack Mar 2018 #178

The GOP will use her words against her this fall. left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #40

Shes not running for anything this fall or ever. Wwcd Mar 2018 #50

"Shes not running for anything ..." left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #88

They'll be super nice to whoever speaks up next. Sparkly Mar 2018 #114

If she hadn't said this, they'd pull up something else mcar Mar 2018 #85

Since she is not running let them have at it. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #110

I don't like the Hillary bashing---I don't like the Bernie bashing. panader0 Mar 2018 #41

Could we stop shooting ourselves in the foot at least? Baconator Mar 2018 #47

Campaign commercial makers all let out a collective sigh of relief... Baconator Mar 2018 #45

What campaign? sheshe2 Mar 2018 #111

Guess... Baconator Mar 2018 #149

No clue. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #152

I'm debating which one is worse... Baconator Mar 2018 #153

Wow. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #155

Just stop it Hekate Mar 2018 #49

That is very common in the South. kentuck Mar 2018 #51

Not with any southern women I know. Tipperary Mar 2018 #229

Looks like Hillary and pelosi are the targets nini Mar 2018 #52

Not exactly on topic, but are we to believe... dchill Mar 2018 #55

tRump's most egregious blurtings marybourg Mar 2018 #56

I agree - in the first place, it is very likely that married couples are likely to agree karynnj Mar 2018 #57

Spot on... especially, that last part. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #198

She didn't stay home and bake cookies either. Doesn't have much use for Stepford types. brewens Mar 2018 #59

No matter what she says or doesn't say she'll catch shit...so LET IT LOOSE WOMAN. Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #60

Typical The Hill bullshit ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #61

More outrage of an honest statement by HRC Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #64

if anyone can say LSFL Mar 2018 #65

In one word, BULLSHIT! MicaelS Mar 2018 #68

I agreed with everything she said ! stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #70

Because God forbid anyone ever say anything that might offend the white women who sold us out EffieBlack Mar 2018 #73

Exactly ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #175

She is right, and I stand with her! lunamagica Mar 2018 #91

I guess some can't just handle the truth, but that is besides the point. Hillary is NOT a still_one Mar 2018 #92

,,, lapucelle Mar 2018 #94

This! sheshe2 Mar 2018 #115

Dear Hillary, please keep speaking your truth. jrthin Mar 2018 #96

maybe problematic, but I don't at all disagree with her on this point, although, I'd argue that JCanete Mar 2018 #105

I'm just fine with her comments. That is all. tandem5 Mar 2018 #107

She can say whatever she wants Sparkly Mar 2018 #113

She is absolutely ellie Mar 2018 #122

Hillary spoke a truth BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #125

The Hill is running a Divide and Conquer campaign against Dems. McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 #127

What's interesting is that the article doesn't list a single persons name until the end chowder66 Mar 2018 #130

i totally agree with HRC.. there will always be some still intimidated by her.. samnsara Mar 2018 #132

Unrec Stinky The Clown Mar 2018 #137

It was politically brain dead BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #138

Agreed Snackshack Mar 2018 #139

I don't think it was too big of a factor. People were more concerned about her tumble on 9/11. StevieM Mar 2018 #168

No, you are correct. Snackshack Mar 2018 #196

Fine. I'll put it under my name. UTUSN Mar 2018 #147

Mountain out of molehill. Hillary said what she believed -- honesty. Is that so KPN Mar 2018 #156

I agree with Hilary happy feet Mar 2018 #158

The Hill is very right wing...and I see nothing wrong with a private citizen having an opinion. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #164

My mom MFM008 Mar 2018 #173

Well, do you know women Trump voters? What IS their reasoning? dawg day Mar 2018 #182

I LOVE this! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #190

She's not wrong Bettie Mar 2018 #202

She was answering the worn to death chant about "the coasts." LAS14 Mar 2018 #213

"Discretion is the better part of valor" MichMary Mar 2018 #215

Thank you. It is hard for me to believe that so many question everything Mar 2018 #216

And yet another attempt billh58 Mar 2018 #223

Hillary Clinton was right: The parts of America that support Trump are stuck in the past Gothmog Mar 2018 #224

+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #226

Hillary haters coming out of the wood works months before another big election. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #230

Some fact checking Gothmog Mar 2018 #237