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IronLionZion

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17. Are they employees or contractors?

Fri Mar 16, 2018, 09:20 PM

Mar 2018

Because a lot of companies will get rid of employees and outsource IT to contractors which are temporary and can be removed without notice. Americans are more than welcome to work in contracting, they just don't want to. I'm American and hate it.

It's very stressful to fired without notice and stop receiving a paycheck and lose health insurance because a project is over. And have to do this every few months. People wonder how I have time to post on DU during the day.

I would say contracting is what hurts American workers, because it keeps us from having stable income or working in the same city for more than a few months. Work visas are very closely connected to temporary jobs and relocating to different cities every few months, not stable long-term employment.

Also how do you know if a specific IT worker is on a visa and not a US citizen? As an American who is constantly told that I'm stealing jobs and Trump will deport me somewhere, I'd like us all to move away from race-based assumptions of citizenship.

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If you work for a large American corporation you've heard this story many times... [View all] milestogo Mar 2018 OP

and they have a very loose definition of the word "talent" Skittles Mar 2018 #1

I'm sure SOME American in Miami would like seasonal work at Mar al Lago. fierywoman Mar 2018 #2

Disagree many a good man Mar 2018 #3

Well, we don't really disagree. milestogo Mar 2018 #4

It is a scam because, and I have seen it first hand Perseus Mar 2018 #5

They also go to Indian technical colleges to recruit people milestogo Mar 2018 #7

Back before it was my turn, almost eight years ago MurrayDelph Mar 2018 #19

That's rich. milestogo Mar 2018 #23

I know, that struck me too- 'Please do the needful.' WTH, Bizarro! appalachiablue Mar 2018 #28

Many companies and employers do this. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #6

That is called age discrimination. milestogo Mar 2018 #11

Having worked at Verizon during the H1B boom, I can abso-fucking-lutely endorse this. X_Digger Mar 2018 #8

President Dotard is the biggest abuser of the H1-B Visa program. Maybe someone should have a talk politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #9

Corporations are chislers and lie as a normal course of business. democratisphere Mar 2018 #10

Been happening for a long time. In the company I worked for 20 years ago.nt Fla Dem Mar 2018 #12

+1 n/t wroberts189 Mar 2018 #16

I saw it even worse. I was involved in a layoff many years ago, there were 11 involved.... George II Mar 2018 #13

A lot of the Indian companies have opened US offices now... HipChick Mar 2018 #14

These imports are not always as talented as employers assume. Fact. BSdetect Mar 2018 #15

Are they employees or contractors? IronLionZion Mar 2018 #17

I hear you. milestogo Mar 2018 #20

My huband and I LittleGirl Mar 2018 #22

One Reason Why IT at Major Corps. is So Messed Up dlk Mar 2018 #18

I quit more than 11 yrs ago LittleGirl Mar 2018 #21

If they had a union it would have demanded formal corroboration lunatica Mar 2018 #24

Unfortunately for them, lots of IT workers considered themselves to be sorta libertarian -- Nay Mar 2018 #32

The H1B program is abused. We did a study in my state of PatrickforO Mar 2018 #25

Great Post!!! mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #29

I refuse to even let the IT people where I work touch the stuff I use. Id welcome Hoyt Mar 2018 #26

'Qualified' in this case means 'cheaper'. Volaris Mar 2018 #27

Lot of IT related posts...trust me, it ain't just there.... Xolodno Mar 2018 #30

I have no idea what your post has to do with the H1B visa issue that is being discussed. milestogo Mar 2018 #31