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MineralMan

(151,182 posts) Mon Jan 2, 2012, 11:42 AM Jan 2012

Glenn Greenwald - Progressive or Liberaltarian? [View all]

Just who is Glenn Greenwald, really. Is he a progressive? Or is he more of a liberaltarian?

His association with the Cato Institute, a Koch-funded libertarian think tank, argues that he may be more libertarian than progressive. Googling {"Glenn Greenwald" Cato} brings up a bunch of interesting links, which I'm now in the process of examining. What I'm finding so far is interesting, and may explain some recent articles he has written.

Perhaps others will enjoy looking at some of the links in that search, too. There's lots to read and analyze, so I'm not commenting much on individual issues at this point. I'm just encouraging other DUers to check out those links.

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Glenn Greenwald - Progressive or Liberaltarian? [View all] MineralMan Jan 2012 OP

Your link goes to Glenn Beck. tabatha Jan 2012 #1

I discovered that. MineralMan Jan 2012 #2

Try making a tinyurl. tabatha Jan 2012 #6

It's easy enough to type in the link. MineralMan Jan 2012 #10

This link works. MH1 Jan 2012 #29

I suggest that linkiing to Glenn Beck on DU is a red flag shouting 'slow down and Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #48

Uh, I didn't link to Glenn Beck. MineralMan Jan 2012 #59

Sure, that's the ticket. Where are the other links? Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #64

Progressive DesMoinesDem Jan 2012 #3

I got to pass on Beck coming up. Autumn Jan 2012 #4

It was an error in the way DU resolves URLs. MineralMan Jan 2012 #7

A better question is: _ed_ Jan 2012 #5

Well, the list you created MineralMan Jan 2012 #9

Greenwald supported the War on Terror? _ed_ Jan 2012 #14

He supported the Iraq invasion during the Bush administration. MineralMan Jan 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #26

Here you go: MineralMan Jan 2012 #38

When you read this, skip that post and read the preface itself which is linked. Pholus Jan 2012 #52

After a post like this, I think the examination of the writings of any individual is valuable tabatha Jan 2012 #62

I thought he was supported Bush on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. tabatha Jan 2012 #17

All true. Thanks. MineralMan Jan 2012 #19

I'm hoping someone can hack into his emails quinnox Jan 2012 #8

Lol! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #21

You know what? I couldn't care less. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #11

OK. However, Glenn Greenwald's writings are MineralMan Jan 2012 #15

What I'm trying to figure out is *why* DU is so obsessed with him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #33

I don't think we should care. It seems to me that this is just A Simple Game Jan 2012 #94

well, you know, last week it was Matt Tiabbi paulk Jan 2012 #70

Since libertarians can range from the far right to the far left nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #12

Yes. I'm well aware of libertarian political issues. MineralMan Jan 2012 #16

"they do pollute both parties" Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #46

So caring about the law and civil rights is pollution? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #60

You don't think that some of the libertarian views are worthy of consideration? A Simple Game Jan 2012 #95

Libertarianism is ultimately NOT consistent with liberal values. It just isn't. MH1 Jan 2012 #39

Sometimes shades of grey can be useful, sir. Pholus Jan 2012 #57

As I said, the RIGHT WING of the Libertarian party is quite noisy nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #61

Shitheel MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #13

"Liberaltarian"? If that's a Left-Libertarian, how's that different from anti-statist Progressive? leveymg Jan 2012 #20

No, that's isn't what I meant. MineralMan Jan 2012 #23

So you are saying that "liberaltarians" are deceitful anti-statist progressives then? Pholus Jan 2012 #25

Since you're insinuating that GG is a false-flag Progressive, burden is on you to leveymg Jan 2012 #43

Do you think Greenwald's writings will have ANY impact on the 2012 election? PA Democrat Jan 2012 #22

I think Greenwald is about dividing people, so it may, indeed affect MineralMan Jan 2012 #28

"Interested"? More like obsessed. Too many threads to count, too much of a pain to hide them all. PA Democrat Jan 2012 #55

Now that's funny. "his articles are posted daily on DU". A Simple Game Jan 2012 #96

The real question is: Do Americans have a right & duty to criticize the President when he's wrong? baldguy Jan 2012 #24

Of course they do. MineralMan Jan 2012 #32

The only reason Greenwald is being attacked is because he has been critical of Obama. baldguy Jan 2012 #47

Here, let me help you with that google search link. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #27

Hi. Yes, that works. MineralMan Jan 2012 #30

conspiracy theories to smear the left fascisthunter Jan 2012 #31

Thanks for letting me know. MineralMan Jan 2012 #34

I always get a kick when some one ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #72

"Drug Decriminalization in Portugal" by Glenn Greenwald JackRiddler Jan 2012 #35

Thank you, JackRiddler smokey nj Jan 2012 #44

Barack Obama - Centrist or Moderate? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #36

What of his associations and employment of Donnie McClurkin? Ex-gay hate preacher Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #41

Glenn Greenwald" Cato shows that he worked with them on drug policy issues Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #37

I agree with the OP. It's important to attach an exact one-word label to everybody. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #40

Lol! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #42

Your allegation "his association with the Cato institute". Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #45

Do you really think "liberaltarian" was an intentional coinage? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #49

uh yeah Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #51

Well then. I stand corrected. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #53

I didn't even coin the word. It's not original with me. MineralMan Jan 2012 #58

Doesn't matter, it works. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2012 #97

Who's Glenn Greenwald? getdown Jan 2012 #50

Emmanual Goldstein... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #54

hahahahaha getdown Jan 2012 #56

GREENWALD MUST BE DESTROYED!!!1 frylock Jan 2012 #63

The OP refuses to address that nonsense. So many DUers calling out that smear Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #65

Not at all. Greenwald accepted a grant from Cato. MineralMan Jan 2012 #66

Right. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #67

So, accepting a grant from an organization is NOT having MineralMan Jan 2012 #68

Interesting -- so is the converse true? Cato is liberal cause it paid GG? Pholus Jan 2012 #69

I don't think so. The one who pays is the MineralMan Jan 2012 #71

That makes ethical sense, but didn't Cato also make a big mistake by offering him money then? Pholus Jan 2012 #73

Skilled writers can pretty much write anything to suit the marketplace. MineralMan Jan 2012 #74

What if you generally disagreed with the client but ethically you supported this one job? Pholus Jan 2012 #75

Personally, I can't answer that, because I don't know MineralMan Jan 2012 #80

Fair enough! Pholus Jan 2012 #91

I found this entry in Wikipedia VERY interesting. johnaries Jan 2012 #76

So I guess he doesn't like the two party system then... Pholus Jan 2012 #77

... girl gone mad Jan 2012 #82

His speech at FAIR has been running two and three times a week on cable. EFerrari Jan 2012 #86

His work with CATO institute concerned studying drug policy in Portugal. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #78

Extraordinary rendition - good or bad? jpgray Jan 2012 #79

I don't care. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #81

Suspension of Habeas Corpus is a jaw-dropping policy that is impossible to defend jpgray Jan 2012 #83

He's no Molly Ivins. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #84

He's worse than Molly Ivins. He's right that the Bush-era executive must end - completely jpgray Jan 2012 #87

That anyone could mistake him for a political pundit when his interest is civil liberties EFerrari Jan 2012 #89

He certainly is a political pundit. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #90

Good ideas and have a Happy New Year, AtomicKitten. freshwest Jan 2012 #92

Same to you. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #93

What is a "Liberaltarian"? suffragette Jan 2012 #85

You can find a working definition here: MineralMan Jan 2012 #88