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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
35. Don't sell your country short.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jul 2012

Every time I peruse the comments section in some U.K. paper online -- most recently The Independent after the Romney gaffes, I'm struck by the near-universal maturity of tone and the easy dry humor. I know comment sections are just a sliver of the community, but stateside it sure is a big, nasty, crazy sliver. It's stomach churning. I don't see that with the U.K. papers.

For example, I just took in the comments after an article in the Orlando Sentinel (my hometown paper) about a ballot initiative to ensure paid sick leave for all workers (and how the mayor is opposed to it on "free enterprise" grounds). I'm actively supporting it and wondered what people thought. I needn't have bothered. The ratio of thoughtful commentary vs. "Lazy libtards chasin' all the job creators away with their socialist plot" was about 10:1 (in favor of crazy).

In contrast, commentators on the U.K. story, who I admit seemed saner in part because they were chuckling at Romney, nevertheless did so calmly, without epithets or references to any kind of culture war. Scrolling down (and down and down) I eventually came across a few conservative comments that approached U.S. levels of Internet nuttery (something about "Barry Obama" was one). But the ratio was completely reversed.

Maybe it's the U.K. papers I look at vs. the sad state of the seething masses here in Orlando. I do remember reading some strange racist comments in The Guardian once. Something about Italian immigrants being brutish or something. But by and large it just seems like people in the U.K. are ... smarter? Better educated? Or maybe it's just that they don't have a huge segment of the population that's bought into the truly nonsensical corporatist culture war nonsense we have here.

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What do you or others listen to coming out of the US? flamingdem Jul 2012 #1
Iraq vets against the War sibelian Jul 2012 #3
I'm not sure US Dems are "left," snot Jul 2012 #2
Organisation isn't as hard as you think. sibelian Jul 2012 #4
We could meet online and share a pint! flamingdem Jul 2012 #6
Yes, I guess we could! sibelian Jul 2012 #10
Yes, but it's been a while flamingdem Jul 2012 #11
Cornish-American here! Freddie Jul 2012 #14
Do you live in California? flamingdem Jul 2012 #16
Pennsylvania Freddie Jul 2012 #18
I didn't know about the miners there flamingdem Jul 2012 #19
And they brought those yummy UP pasties with them! amandabeech Jul 2012 #22
OOO I'm going to Cornwall thos year for the first time! spooky... sibelian Jul 2012 #21
Stone circles and such flamingdem Jul 2012 #23
I sent you a bad link, that one has such a witch attached - I would google "cornish stone circles" flamingdem Jul 2012 #24
Aw, cool! Didn't know about any of that stuff... :) sibelian Jul 2012 #26
As suspected the person named Gemma pushing Cornish witchcraft is from elsewhere flamingdem Jul 2012 #27
Ah. I;ve done a teeny bit of that. really teeny sibelian Jul 2012 #28
To be honest flamingdem Jul 2012 #30
I consider myself some kind of "mystical atheist" sibelian Jul 2012 #34
First you will have to help me find "a left." nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #5
Hm. OK.... sibelian Jul 2012 #8
Yes it could, and there are a couple of those on the "left." nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #13
There's an American left? harmonicon Jul 2012 #7
Oh, I think there is. I think that a lot of very strong left wing concepts are well-understood sibelian Jul 2012 #9
We have Bernie Sanders in congress - here's a link for his radio program flamingdem Jul 2012 #12
YES... in fact, American Left needs to make a global alliance fascisthunter Jul 2012 #15
Yes, all the lefts need to work together DavidDvorkin Jul 2012 #17
Excellent idea. sibelian Jul 2012 #20
Agreed! Quantess Jul 2012 #25
Definitely. I think there is, actually. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #29
Wait ... Romney has a "special relationship"? Did he just "out" himself??? zbdent Jul 2012 #31
There should be a united GLOBAL left. Zalatix Jul 2012 #32
Yes, I totally agree. I think that's a brilliant idea, actually... sibelian Jul 2012 #33
Don't sell your country short. DirkGently Jul 2012 #35
British left........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2012 #36
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