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Octafish

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17. Seems like WallStreetBigBanks are laughing all the way somewhere, courtesy of US taxpayer.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jul 2012

...a most blurry place, when it comes to getting some restitution, evidently.



How AIG fell apart

By Adam Davidson

Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:55pm EDT

(The Big Money) When you hear that the collapse of AIG or Lehman Bros. or Bear Stearns might lead to a systemic collapse of the global financial system, the feared culprit is, largely, that once-obscure (OK, still obscure) instrument known as a credit default swap.

SNIP...

Who sells these CDSs? Banks, hedge funds, and AIG.

It's easy to see the attraction. Historically, bond issuers almost never go bankrupt. So, many banks and hedge funds figured they could make a fortune by selling CDSs, keeping the premium, and almost never having to pay out anything.

In fact, beginning in the late '90s, CDSs became a great way to make a lot more money than was possible through traditional investment methods. Let's say you think GE is rock solid, that it will never default on a bond, since it hasn't in recent memory. You could buy a GE bond and make, say, a meager 6 percent interest. Or you could just sell GE credit default swaps. You get money from other banks, and all you have to give is the promise to pay if something bad happens. That's zero money down and a profit limited only by how many you can sell.

SNIP...

Banks all over the world bought CDS protection from AIG. If AIG is not able to make good on that promise of payment, then every one of those banks has lost that protection. Overnight, the banks have to buy replacement coverage at much higher rates, because the risks now are much worse than they were when AIG sold most of these CDS contracts.

CONTINUED...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/09/18/us-how-aig-fell-apart-idUSMAR85972720080918



AIG -- just one company -- was bailed out to the tune of $1.6 Trillion with a T.

I'd like to know who it was who profited from their misfortune.

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i read somewhere that the touted business profits are a function of gov't spending -- i.e. gov't HiPointDem Jul 2012 #1
Interesting. While corporate profits are at all-time highs, wages are at all-time lows... Octafish Jul 2012 #15
It went to cover defaults on mortgages harun Jul 2012 #2
Seems like WallStreetBigBanks are laughing all the way somewhere, courtesy of US taxpayer. Octafish Jul 2012 #17
A lot (perhaps even most) of that money went overseas. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #3
Keeping Offshore Invisible: A Study in News Management Octafish Jul 2012 #18
Rhetorical question, bro? Zorra Jul 2012 #4
Yes, Zorra-san. I hope to generate discussion as Corporate McPravda won't... Octafish Jul 2012 #11
LIBOR-manipulation story dwarfs by orders of magnitude any financial scams in the history of markets Zorra Jul 2012 #12
The Cayman Islands. Rex Jul 2012 #5
Corruption and the Offshore Interface Octafish Jul 2012 #19
Medical bills, home and auto repairs, mercenaries, drones, bombs, prostitutes, the usual. freshwest Jul 2012 #6
A lot of the money was not there KT2000 Jul 2012 #7
There never were trillions in bailouts econoclast Jul 2012 #8
Largely, it was lent back to the Fed who paid more interest than we charged the banks.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #9
Actually that razzle dazzle econoclast Jul 2012 #10
It never existed quaker bill Jul 2012 #13
It never existed. Basic macroeconomics explans it... TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #14
What is really cool quaker bill Jul 2012 #16
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