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Jim Lane

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67. Another smear about Bernie -- another lie

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:10 AM

Mar 2018

Actually, even as to Susan Sarandon, my guess is that your statement is false. Stein wanted people to support her (duh), and Sarandon supported her, but Sarandon is capable of speaking for herself and probably didn't follow a script given her by Stein.

Putting that aside, though, Bernie's case is clear. Stein offered to step aside to let him run on the Green Party ticket. He didn't take that offer -- in fact, Stein rather petulantly complained that he hadn't even responded to her. Then he went out and campaigned for Hillary. Were his speeches for Hillary based on a script Stein gave him? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say No.

OK, now, since another Bernie bash has been exposed as a blatant lie, it's time for some deflection. Perhaps someone would be so good as to complain that Bernie didn't campaign enough for Hillary, and someone else might add the shocking news that he's not a Democrat?

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Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, "how was the play"? I would like to thank Jill Stein, Susan Sarandon, [View all] still_one Mar 2018 OP

Do they still think they did the right thing? dhol82 Mar 2018 #1

Theyll never admit anything. blake2012 Mar 2018 #2

Unfortunately, I suspect most of them have no remorse still_one Mar 2018 #4

Righteousness is a wonderful thing. Hortensis Mar 2018 #173

back in 2000 I had an acquaintance who voted for nader Mosby Mar 2018 #184

:) Hopefully moved upward and onward long ago. Hortensis Mar 2018 #185

It's EXACTLY what Susan Sarandon wanted. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #183

I like threads like this one Sherman A1 Mar 2018 #3

Well Sherman, if you read the last line of my OP, that said it all still_one Mar 2018 #5

Well I like threads like this one Bradshaw3 Mar 2018 #7

I agree. I am extremely concerned still_one Mar 2018 #9

Well, Trump is destroying The United States. Vote the BUM out! UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #66

If the last line says it all, then the previous lines say nothing. progressoid Mar 2018 #57

This! chwaliszewski Mar 2018 #165

I know, right? mountain grammy Mar 2018 #20

"2018 is our last chance".. What's wrong with that? Cha Mar 2018 #34

Its not helpful and bad for my blood pressure mountain grammy Mar 2018 #55

It's important to point out the LIARS in the 2016 Cha Mar 2018 #72

It is true...and we better face our situation squarely. John Bolton has advocated for a first Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #97

Whatever works for you. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #131

100% agree with you. I assumed that the liberal identity included a forgiving heart. Zen Democrat Mar 2018 #142

Hate has no home here. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #143

Mountain Grammy, I don't hate them, and like you I don't have the energy. But without a reminder... Hekate Mar 2018 #176

"Pure" lefties are a big part of the problem and they are too blind to see. lark Mar 2018 #127

Yes, that's important, lark.. sarandon is still spouting Cha Mar 2018 #133

There was a LOT of information Cha Mar 2018 #73

Yup. KPN Mar 2018 #170

They are despicable. And will not suffer for what they did lunamagica Mar 2018 #6

The only way this nightmare can stop is 2018, and the odds are still against us still_one Mar 2018 #8

We still have a gerrymander in many places...we have to overperform in order to take the House. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #98

you are right, but what Alabama showed us with the Lamb victory, it can be done still_one Mar 2018 #102

Lamb was victorious in PA18. charlyvi Mar 2018 #146

Thank-you. still_one Mar 2018 #147

No problem. charlyvi Mar 2018 #169

2018 is so bloody important but l am arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #10

so am I arthritisR. Here in California, the top two who get the most votes, run against each other still_one Mar 2018 #14

We are definitely on the same page. Please arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #37

I want California to return to the previous system. Even when we get two Democrats running deurbano Mar 2018 #39

so do I, but the only way I see that happening is through the initiative process still_one Mar 2018 #43

Close elections are more likely to be stolen...so lets do our best to bring on a blue Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #99

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Mar 2018 #103

Thank you! Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #106

Me, too. Russia is still hacking, as far as we know. And the Repubs are in on it. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #23

So do I, this did not have to be 😔 arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #38

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #11

It was more than not voting for Clinton Evergreen Emerald Mar 2018 #13

Sorry, but true progressives actually voted for the Democratic nominee, and that included those who still_one Mar 2018 #15

That's not what your OP says though. progressoid Mar 2018 #53

You need to decide what's more important: The past or the future. denverbill Mar 2018 #64

I believe that decision has been made. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #69

There shouldn't be two...camps...one camp and the sole purpose is to rid this country of a man Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100

There are two camps about how to achieve that purpose. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #154

Do you doubt that Sarandon and Stein aren't going to do all they can to re-elect Trump? DanTex Mar 2018 #71

It is what they do...our revolution too would rather elect a Republican than a Democrat. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #101

The past... You mean like the ACA, keeping Planned Parenthood funded ehrnst Mar 2018 #123

You need to figure out that this shite is still Cha Mar 2018 #126

The past is prologue. Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Hekate Mar 2018 #177

Yup, we did. Would be nice if our loyalty to the Democratic cause & voting Hillary for President InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #65

The problem is that some people here fear that if Bernie runs, he will cause us to lose 20. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #104

I hear what you're sayin' Dems ... thanks for taking the time to splain your position. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #178

We are on the same page...and the vitriol on both sides is caused by fear in my Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #182

I hear Bernie wants to run again so I am arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #46

They've alienated themselves. betsuni Mar 2018 #61

That is all it takes treestar Mar 2018 #62

Do you really think that the likes of Sarandon will ever vote for a Democrat? lunamagica Mar 2018 #79

If they don't know they suck and are still defending their vote than who cares...worthless. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #108

Also - what is a "DLC'er in the future?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #125

I think it's suppose to be Cha Mar 2018 #135

Oh - like "status quo." ehrnst Mar 2018 #137

So glad we don't have HRC, the "war monger" mcar Mar 2018 #12

IT WOULD BE STATUS QUO!!!11111 betsuni Mar 2018 #17

"STATUS QUO"!!!!!!!!!11111111 Cha Mar 2018 #76

I long for status quo... I would give much to have it. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #105

President Obama was Status Quo.. Cha Mar 2018 #107

I know...I believe President Obama will be remembered as one of our greatest presidents...despite Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #110

He was always moving forward.. Cha Mar 2018 #114

The thing that bothers me most is that progressive voters failed to have his back. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #149

No kidding.. I include Cha Mar 2018 #179

Very true... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #181

Me too. I like stability. betsuni Mar 2018 #109

I don't want to live in 'interesting times'. I can't believe we face nuclear war and the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #111

I want to live my small ordinary life in peace. betsuni Mar 2018 #118

That is what I want....trying to clean up my potty mouth...f...ng Republicans! Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #148

Oh for a return to "status quo" mcar Mar 2018 #120

Something.... I never seem to get a definition from anyone on specifics ehrnst Mar 2018 #130

ERMEGERD! Not the...... ehrnst Mar 2018 #129

We're free of the "warmongeringcorporatistfascistclosetracistrepublicanliteneoliberalcrooked" HRC, Jamaal510 Mar 2018 #58

Yay mcar Mar 2018 #121

Yes, that's what his fans called him, isn't it? ehrnst Mar 2018 #132

Where's the revolution that was supposed to happen? betsuni Mar 2018 #16

She was playing a role for the script Jill and arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #47

Another smear about Bernie -- another lie Jim Lane Mar 2018 #67

The revolution went straight into her bank account... via Trump's tax cut. John Fante Mar 2018 #60

Good way to solidify the 2018 and 2020 vote by calling people idiots! Gore1FL Mar 2018 #18

Those who voted third party or subscribed to the mindset of Jill Stein or Susan Sarandon have still_one Mar 2018 #19

Do you think the same of those who voted for Nader in 2000? Jim Lane Mar 2018 #70

You make a valid point regarding the 2000 election, but I would argue that most of those non-green still_one Mar 2018 #78

I don't see that much difference between 2000 and 2016 Jim Lane Mar 2018 #152

That is a pretty through analysis. In my first response I was trying to specifically address the still_one Mar 2018 #157

The ones (some here) who defend their vote for Nader or who claim he and the Greens Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #112

I am no longer moved by that line, especially since HILLARY WON BY 3,000,000 votes and ... Hekate Mar 2018 #24

A big fucking thank you!!! arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #48

Those people arent worth courting ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #25

I was told here at DU Nevernose Mar 2018 #35

Good for you. ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #45

Why are you calling out African Americans and other people of color? MadDAsHell Mar 2018 #36

Because the base of the party are African American voters ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #41

she wasn't "calling out" she was giving the group Credit for coming out and voting for Democrats in JI7 Mar 2018 #77

3rd party voters in 2016 are idiots mcar Mar 2018 #29

They assured us their conscience wouldn't allow them to vote for the Democrat last time. betsuni Mar 2018 #51

Precisely Sherman A1 Mar 2018 #87

I second that emotion. Grrrrrrr. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #21

After all the Russian Cambridge Analytica spike91nz Mar 2018 #22

You are aware that Hillary won the election? See my post #24 above re treason and felonies. Hekate Mar 2018 #27

I get a little suspcious of those such as Stein who downplayed any Russian interference, still_one Mar 2018 #30

Ah yes, the same Jill Stein who was seen all gussied up and seated at that main banquet table calimary Mar 2018 #68

They see liberals/Democrats as the enemy, live in a propaganda bubble like Fox viewers. betsuni Mar 2018 #40

Right.. they're lost in their Cha Mar 2018 #83

Two of the common enemies are stein and ssarandon, Cha Mar 2018 #80

And Nina Turner as well she is bitter about 16 and hates Democrats...Our Revolution is a bad Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #115

Oh yeah, we can't forget GasLighting Cha Mar 2018 #116

Well this post will surely win them over...lol. mudstump Mar 2018 #26

See my post #24 above. My gods, collecting noobs all at once in this thread. Welcome to DU, all... Hekate Mar 2018 #28

With the declining numbers here, you'd think some new blood would be welcome to DU. progressoid Mar 2018 #52

If we can't rely on left left voters...we will have no choice as a party but to more to the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #117

Win who over? The Steins and Sarandons? Hopefully what it will do is point out that the Steins and still_one Mar 2018 #31

Why should they be "won over?" mcar Mar 2018 #32

They're still LYING, mcar.. Forget the 2016 Rigged in "election" Cha Mar 2018 #82

Do you think they just don't want to admit they were wrong, Cha? mcar Mar 2018 #119

Door #2, mcar Hekate Mar 2018 #172

They need to be won over treestar Mar 2018 #63

Yuk yuk... Do you think stein and ssarandon are Cha Mar 2018 #81

I'm sure dozens of threads like this... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #33

Indeed. progressoid Mar 2018 #56

If stein and sarandon STOP LYING to their FANS... Cha Mar 2018 #75

2018? Shouldn't we run facing backwards to 2016 IronLionZion Mar 2018 #42

Perhaps we should not listen to the likes of the Steins, Sarandons, Naders, etc. still_one Mar 2018 #44

Then how will we know what to think? IronLionZion Mar 2018 #54

They're NOT "Democrats" for one thing.. and Cha Mar 2018 #86

Many of those "progressives" are enjoying white privilege IronLionZion Mar 2018 #164

Because if you think and act like we live in a democracy you are sadly naive. Stand up straight and lutherj Mar 2018 #49

Ms Stein and Ms. Sarandon sure did their part still_one Mar 2018 #50

That crowd shows up once Jamaal510 Mar 2018 #59

I don't even want to hear the words "third party" CanonRay Mar 2018 #74

I lulz'd KG Mar 2018 #84

Don't Forget Cornel West in that lump of idiots. Cha Mar 2018 #85

Yes. Even though he wasn't a registered Democratic, he was given a seat at the table on the rules still_one Mar 2018 #88

Right.. the attemped GasLighitng put Patrick Hamilton's Cha Mar 2018 #89

Yes. betsuni Mar 2018 #90

Well he went from that to calling Cha Mar 2018 #91

I think Cornel is the biggest nut in the fruitcake. betsuni Mar 2018 #92

It Seems Fake To Me ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #93

Rapper Killer Mike: 'If youre voting for Trump or Hillary Clinton, youre voting for the same thing Cha Mar 2018 #94

"Brother Trump is a real human being"? OMG Hekate Mar 2018 #174

Rapper Killer Mike: 'If youre voting for Trump or Hillary Clinton, youre voting for the same thing Cha Mar 2018 #95

You are right...I still see 16 politics here and it has to stop...we need to win. We need to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #96

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2018 #113

If HRC was president, they would be calling every single Cabinet nominee "corporatist" ehrnst Mar 2018 #122

Add in Greenwald, Scahill, Snowden, and pretty much all of the Intercept Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #124

Purge where?? disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #141

Pathetic! .... Psychologists call this "projection." HenryWallace Mar 2018 #128

"Pathetic" back at you. You have no Cha Mar 2018 #138

Your own personal Groundhogs Day! HenryWallace Mar 2018 #156

Nah.. the only groundhogs are the fucking LIARS, jill stein and Cha Mar 2018 #180

I call this.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #134

Well you're wrong.. we know exactly Cha Mar 2018 #136

Your entitled to your opinion.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #139

yeah, whatever Cha Mar 2018 #140

Thank you, Jill Stein Tarc Mar 2018 #144

Very insightful.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #145

We should also thank... Marty Marzipan Mar 2018 #150

Nobody voted 3rd party Loubee Mar 2018 #151

It's not only Stein & Sarandon NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #153

Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein both helped to elect trump Gothmog Mar 2018 #155

Don't forget that idiot R. Barr who was on Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #158

Either Barr is off her rocker, or she is a racist bigot. I guess she could be both still_one Mar 2018 #159

Her character DownriverDem Mar 2018 #161

I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #168

My thoughts exactly DownriverDem Mar 2018 #160

Feels like the Academy Awards, so many people to thank... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #162

You might have something there still_one Mar 2018 #163

Not this, again.... chwaliszewski Mar 2018 #166

Stein and Sarandon are in different situations apnu Mar 2018 #167

One more time around ... Why does this KPN Mar 2018 #171

Stein and Sarandon deliberately worked to help Trump Progressive dog Mar 2018 #175