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434. Hillary had a high approval rating as SoS, that suddenly dropped when

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:49 PM

Mar 2018

she ran for POTUS.

Different metrics for POTUS and all.

That happens sometimes, especially when one is truly vetted for a General Election, and is also the subject of a concerted effort by a hostile power to put one's opponent into office.

When a politician is actually vetted, especially when opposed by a foreign power with powerful technology at their fingertips, popularity can be compromised, be it with truths, falsehoods or half-truths.

Doubly so when one hasn't been thoroughly vetted by one's own nominating party, under the assumption that there isn't anything to find out.

Sarah Palin is an example of an undervetted candidate coming back to bite the party in the ass.

HRC was likely the most vetted candidates ever- financially, legislatively, personally - and still people, including self-described progressives, swallowed the Cambridge Analytica propelled BS about her.

Imagine what they could do with someone's popularity who hasn't really been so thoroughly vetted - financially, personally and legislatively.

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Bernie Sanders' Economic Inequality Town Hall Draws 1.7 Million Live Viewers [View all] Donkees Mar 2018 OP

He probably got a lot of "Likes" on Facebook too. N/T MyNameGoesHere Mar 2018 #1

Meaning what exactly? Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #2

It's a little button on Facebook MyNameGoesHere Mar 2018 #5

Yes, literally anyone who is concerned with Inequality in America HootieMcBoob Mar 2018 #8

Sanders is beating a good drum. Econ. inequality is a core issue DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #24

If you clicked on it, watched 15 seconds and didn't like what you were seeing... George II Mar 2018 #47

I don't click on things on Facebook, Twitter etc. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2018 #49

Clicky-clicky! So simple... anyone can do it! NurseJackie Mar 2018 #51

HAHA! My cat walked across my keyboard, they got ten hits. George II Mar 2018 #53

How was the 1.7 million number tabulated? lapucelle Mar 2018 #237

I never, ever go to Facebook. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #104

or even if you clicked on it 300 times from overseas, and don't speak a word of English, BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #131

It's often entertaining to watch people cower behind implication. LanternWaste Mar 2018 #55

+1111! KPN Mar 2018 #86

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do you Hate Senator Sanders? juxtaposed Mar 2018 #212

??? ehrnst Mar 2018 #385

Sanders is presenting the reasons why Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #3

So he didn't call out Democrats? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #4

Shouldn't we all 'call out' people who do not support liberal values like pampango Mar 2018 #197

Are we allowed only to "call out" Democrats? ehrnst Mar 2018 #386

To the contrary. We should call out anyone who does not support the liberal values pampango Mar 2018 #392

The Democratic Party has to be big tent in order to gain a majority...and there is no consensus on Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #399

What do you define as "common Democratic values"? Are they not 'liberal'? pampango Mar 2018 #403

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No...not by an independent who is not a member of the party...and he usually just generalizes...like Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #397

Please Bernie DownriverDem Mar 2018 #15

How do you feel about him being one of the most reliable votes for progressive issues for 25 years? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #23

I think he blew it up. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #30

I Think You've Nailed It Me. Mar 2018 #54

I totally agree! arthritisR_US Mar 2018 #242

I think the results of the Mayoral election in Burlington two weeks ago says it all. George II Mar 2018 #58

Sept. Is The Primary In NH Me. Mar 2018 #66

I missed that. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #95

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Don't forget voting against immigration reform, voting five times against the Brady Bill, the Amber lunamagica Mar 2018 #111

All great points! MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #116

Totally with you on this pandr32 Mar 2018 #135

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #387

I agree with you. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #400

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Personally, I feel great about that. DanTex Mar 2018 #50

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well why do you think that is? Look at where our politics has taken us. Look at what our Dems JCanete Mar 2018 #118

Im not talking about watered-down progress EffieBlack Mar 2018 #138

so buddies who work together on a lot of different issues, including the ones I spoke to JCanete Mar 2018 #143

I was knee-deep in these fights and know firsthand exactly what Im talking about EffieBlack Mar 2018 #145

that was off the cuff, and it was a dumb comment on my part really, because there are JCanete Mar 2018 #150

You surely dont mean it that way but your lecture about civil rights and economic inequality EffieBlack Mar 2018 #166

It cannot work that way. That would be an entirely different kind of patronizing. If I don't JCanete Mar 2018 #168

Yes, Democrats are "abdicating" because you want to think that. ehrnst Mar 2018 #446

Wait, what the fuck did we get in the omnibus bill? Less bad stuff than we could have gotten? JCanete Mar 2018 #450

And you illustrate my point in ways I could not have. ehrnst Mar 2018 #455

I remember well when a certain group turned against Rep. John Lewis for saying he didn't lunamagica Mar 2018 #119

Yes, it was ugly for Rep. Lewis to allow himself to be used in that way. stranger81 Mar 2018 #186

Typical lunamagica Mar 2018 #198

And, I say again, they wonder why black folk don't fall all over themselves for Bernie EffieBlack Mar 2018 #208

Agree. They don't wonder why they never win Hortensis Mar 2018 #225

Hey, not just black folk! GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #253

I think I'm a little bit in love with your dad. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #254

Well, it complicated, like everything in the South GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #256

Im sorry you lost your dad EffieBlack Mar 2018 #257

Wow. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #207

I was a Clinton delegate to the DNC Gothmog Mar 2018 #232

He deserves all our respect. He is a tried and true progressive, and one who has shed blood ehrnst Mar 2018 #286

I have met Congressman Lewis and have heard his "preaching to chickens" story 4 times Gothmog Mar 2018 #350

He IS a national treasure EffieBlack Mar 2018 #292

I am still mad at the attacks on Congressman Lewis at the DNC Gothmog Mar 2018 #351

used? sheshe2 Mar 2018 #233

I agree Gothmog Mar 2018 #238

Right. It is incredibly insulting. But I'm glad they keep showing us their true selves lunamagica Mar 2018 #251

That's ugly insult to our Civil Rights Icon and Cha Mar 2018 #243

It speaks volumes, doesn't it? EffieBlack Mar 2018 #244

Blaring volumes Cha Mar 2018 #245

"Used in that way"? How was he "used"? Representative Lewis is the most honorable and respected... George II Mar 2018 #246

Because he refuses to acknolwedge that Bernie is the greatest civil rights activist of ALL TIME!!! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #248

He allowed himself to be used to promote the false implication that Senator Sanders stranger81 Mar 2018 #266

John Lewis NEVER said that Sanders was not involved in the civil rights movement.... George II Mar 2018 #283

Your comment is offensive and wrong. betsuni Mar 2018 #285

Bullshit EffieBlack Mar 2018 #295

I realize this may come as quite a shock to you, stranger81 Mar 2018 #324

Did you approve of the Sanders delegates booing Congressman John Lewis. at the DNC? Gothmog Mar 2018 #349

I don't think that kind of public display of disrespect towards Rep. Lewis is appropriate or helpful stranger81 Mar 2018 #357

Your disappointment is something that I can live with Gothmog Mar 2018 #364

That's fine. I can live with that too. stranger81 Mar 2018 #365

Congressman Lewis is a national treasure Gothmog Mar 2018 #424

Worse yet, being called a liar. Weird that it is allowed to stand. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #353

You never responded, wonder why? The fact that they both worked for the same organization... George II Mar 2018 #341

Misleading is short hand for lie, so Rep Lewis is being called a liar here and it stands. got it Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #352

You know what? I completely agree with your point stranger81 Mar 2018 #363

John Lewis' statement was 100% factual, and he made it of his own volition. He was "used"... George II Mar 2018 #372

John Lewis didn't know him in the 60's all american girl Mar 2018 #360

Sanders spent two (2) years in the civil rights movement as a college student. George II Mar 2018 #373

You told me to come and look at what you where talking about, and that I was putting words in your m all american girl Mar 2018 #361

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Please explain to me why the elder of a nationwide movement would know all american girl Mar 2018 #375

But the bottom line is that nothing he said was incorrect despite what some.... George II Mar 2018 #407

One protest in 63 is not really impressive...unless I missed something after that. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #419

Wow, so you are saying that a Civil Right icon, all american girl Mar 2018 #358

No, that's not what I'm saying. stranger81 Mar 2018 #359

You accused Congressman Lewis of using misleading terms and making false statements Gothmog Mar 2018 #431

Rep. John Lewis had a message for young activists Gothmog Mar 2018 #480

Who was it that "used" him? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #394

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #396

Well, that pretty much tells us, doesn't it? ehrnst Mar 2018 #398

Yes. Oh, how I wish he was still fighting for the voiceless lunamagica Mar 2018 #114

Misunderstood...yeah Wellstone was a good guy...I thought you meant Sen. Sanders and he is still Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #401

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I often wonder what would have happened if Wellstone had lived...he had an impact Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #453

His death was a tragedy for America. A loss for the most vulnerable among us lunamagica Mar 2018 #460

Wellstone was the REAL deal, true American patriot, true liberal. Great man. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #128

And Paul was being called an "establishment sell-out" at the time of his death ehrnst Mar 2018 #410

That is insane, did not know that. Wellstone was not a sellout at any level on any issue. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #420

He didn't think that evolving on an issue when you got new information was "selling out," ehrnst Mar 2018 #422

What could anyone have against Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #425

Yeah, go figure. ehrnst Mar 2018 #426

You know what else Senator Wellsone was... GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #255

He held true to a single Party representing his values & vision. Wwcd Mar 2018 #411

Yep.(nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #423

Paul was being called an "establishment sellout" by the purists at the time of his death ehrnst Mar 2018 #409

Franken on Hillary, "She's a Paul Wellstone progressive" Wwcd Mar 2018 #413

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I'm glad that he did Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #26

Well-said. nt. appal_jack Mar 2018 #43

Well said!! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #83

Hear, hear! Well done. KPN Mar 2018 #87

Good points that are seldom mentioned in the rush to condemn Sanders. nt Doremus Mar 2018 #140

Well said, as always. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #141

Only 10% of "Independents" don't vote along party lines. No idea why there is any suggestion that seaglass Mar 2018 #196

OK, let's look at your state then Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #289

One office - Governor is often taken by Repubs because of the super majority of Dems in seaglass Mar 2018 #298

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Hey, It's just a small change! aka-chmeee Mar 2018 #28

because what you really want is for him to run third party? You would have no beef with that? hmmm? JCanete Mar 2018 #120

Country trusts Bernie. Show also zentrum Mar 2018 #6

That is a big assumption leftofcool Mar 2018 #7

Hmmm .... how many people tuned KPN Mar 2018 #91

Exactly. zentrum Mar 2018 #132

Ralph Nader also drew huge crowds. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #338

Yes he did -- for decades. KPN Mar 2018 #371

Right - 400 in 2010. ehrnst Mar 2018 #377

Oh? Did you ever see Nader? How many were present then? I saw him in 1972 KPN Mar 2018 #383

I responded to your post about large crowds ehrnst Mar 2018 #384

Sanders didn't "do well in terms of numbers of voters"? That's an unusual interpretation of KPN Mar 2018 #388

Turnout would be the number of voters who cast votes for a politician in an election. ehrnst Mar 2018 #389

And that's what I asked about -- seemed obvious to me. KPN Mar 2018 #390

I'm not not the one manufacturing quotes here to create a strawman. ehrnst Mar 2018 #391

Not an assumption. zentrum Mar 2018 #136

Hillary had a high approval rating as SoS, that suddenly dropped when ehrnst Mar 2018 #434

There is no bigger issue than supporting Democrats...with Trump and the GOP Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #20

How do you flip the economic pyramid? You don't know? DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #31

That will never happen. The new deal relied on government sponsored jobs and unionization. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #65

How do you know it "will never happen"? whathehell Mar 2018 #78

The things that solved issues in the 1930's won't work now. It is a different world...the answers Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #183

No, many things from other decades still work. Thing's aren't automatically whathehell Mar 2018 #219

Unions have been demonized and free trade has driven them out...that is a fact. We soon Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #276

Yes, and no one's denying that.. whathehell Mar 2018 #279

I am not giving up...just have to find new solutions. I am working my ass off...I live in Ohio Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #282

Many of those zentrum Mar 2018 #222

I live in Europe, and it's just not like that here. DFW Mar 2018 #268

What policies in Europe are Roosevelt policies? I can't think of any. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #275

Do you mean what policies in Europe are similar to Roosevelt's? whathehell Mar 2018 #331

It was said by someone perhaps not you that Europe had adopted Roosevelt policies. I don't see that. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #332

If you read at least one of the links I provided.. whathehell Mar 2018 #344

What link? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #348

I'll repost it... whathehell Mar 2018 #366

When you get a chance...I looked through it and didn't see it. I will do so again...Sorry about that Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #367

No problem at all.. whathehell Mar 2018 #368

We are not going to get a new deal through...I don't know what else to say. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #311

Well, I'm sorry, but I don't know what to say to blanket statements whathehell Mar 2018 #315

I discussed why and what..."get the new deal" is the mother of blanket statements. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #325

The New Deal is only "meaningless" to people who don't know what it is.. whathehell Mar 2018 #328

I know what the new deal was...I studied it in economics, my Grandparents loved Roosevelt Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #333

So the New Deal is too "old" for you....Got a replacement? whathehell Mar 2018 #343

Never say never. "Never" is self-defeating KPN Mar 2018 #93

No it is not...it is self defeating to try to do stuff that won't happen...figure out what can work Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #97

I disagree with that old tired mantra that has resulted KPN Mar 2018 #100

The middle class will continue to be plundered if we don't win elections. That is our priority. As Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #179

Says you. I'm not you. Starting out by saying we can't is a recipe KPN Mar 2018 #112

Getting where and how do we get there...I saw nothing practical last night...just rhetoric. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #178

With a defeatist attitude all things are impossible. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #309

Yes..Thank you. n/t. whathehell Mar 2018 #345

The New Deal was geared towards a particular segment of our population ehrnst Mar 2018 #393

I don't trust him. I wan to see his tax returns. Adrahil Mar 2018 #33

The lack of response to your post is noted. nt TexasTowelie Mar 2018 #231

Elizabeth Warren is a good, loyal Democrat. It went under the radar, but... George II Mar 2018 #59

Yes, and she's a progressive Democrat. n/t. whathehell Mar 2018 #80

Supporting Democrats is the only issue for me at this moment. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #172

... LexVegas Mar 2018 #9

I'll get you some coffee. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #32

Lol BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #42

Well doesn't that just sum up why we're fucked.... JCanete Mar 2018 #124

... LexVegas Mar 2018 #151

Glad to see a town hall discussion on economic justice. democrank Mar 2018 #10

How so...I saw nothing new here. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #21

So? It's so unimportant that we should not discuss it? So what Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #25

The "New Deal" is still new evidently. Let's keep fighting for it. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #34

It just seems a waste of time. We know from PA that the issue was healthcare in district 18 Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #67

I just can't see discussions of growing poverty in America as a "waste of time." mountain grammy Mar 2018 #159

It is when there is no solution at the moment. There are lots of issues that are not voting issues Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #170

1.7 million viewing is new. KPN Mar 2018 #99

I don't trust facebook...and we need to be working towards as 50 state solution...I don't see the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #176

really? Cuz this is what our politiicans, as they vote to deregulate the banks, sound like daily. JCanete Mar 2018 #121

You know I believe every single safe Democrat should face a primary after Trump is gone as a result Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #173

no, I'm done with that. not being "safe" is the cover our politicians and our party leaders use to JCanete Mar 2018 #177

You have to get elected...look do you really think at this moment we can get a Senate and a house Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #427

A big tent should not mean catering to industry over people. If we can't JCanete Mar 2018 #442

It is about getting elected but I looked at the bill and don't think it is that bad. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #451

Also, it will not help us fix these things if we don't talk about them. You cannot avoid these JCanete Mar 2018 #182

Candidates should discuss what works in their state or district ...stuff that helps get them Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #430

you can't govern on your message if you don't run on it. For that matter, it clearly JCanete Mar 2018 #438

People don't run on the entire Democratic platform...you run on what works... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #452

again, this cannot just be ignored by you....if the way you win is by not riling big money JCanete Mar 2018 #454

You have to win for power...I don't know what to say except...you can bring bills to the floor Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #471

K&R nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2018 #11

Bernie attacks republicons! RandiFan1290 Mar 2018 #12

Agree 100% ! left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #16

I'm not a troll DownriverDem Mar 2018 #17

Do you agree with what Bernie is saying about US Economy? UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #19

So he should have run as an independent? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #27

Good point! OK, let's get back to building a PEOPLE's economy. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #36

It would have been less damaging for the Party had he run as an independent. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #68

Clinton would not have won the popular vote if he had. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #74

I think that those who would have vote for Sen. Sanders voted for Jill Stein...we all know since Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #181

Winning the popular vote while satisfying has done nothing to negate the horrors of Trump...if I had Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #436

BS. Trump would have won fair and square had Bernie not in that case. KPN Mar 2018 #103

I didn't say we would have won in 16 had Sen. Sanders run as a independent . I said there would Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #180

What damage?! You miss my point. KPN Mar 2018 #218

You are kidding me right? I have seen the 16 primary refought in several elections... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #435

Nope. I believe what I've said, otherwise I wouldn't say it. KPN Mar 2018 #472

I wish it were so...I wish the divisiveness and bitterness of 16 were behind us but it is not. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #476

I have no idea what you mean. I believe the party would have been less damaged had Sen. Sanders run Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #432

Bullshit. progressoid Mar 2018 #189

It hurt the Democratic Party and if you spend any time here or on any social media, you see it. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #433

He gave me the choice to vote askyagerz Mar 2018 #79

Oh, we're so sorry mcar Mar 2018 #294

Yeah typical response askyagerz Mar 2018 #307

You poor baby. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #297

Yeah I'm a poor baby because I'm anti war. askyagerz Mar 2018 #308

For years, voters have had to pick candidates they disagree with on numerous issues EffieBlack Mar 2018 #310

+1000! mcar Mar 2018 #313

I could care less about any candidate. askyagerz Mar 2018 #314

Your hypothetical is a strawman EffieBlack Mar 2018 #317

Oh poooor baby... Lol askyagerz Mar 2018 #319

"Anyone who knew anything about politics was screaming that she was a liability to the democratics" EffieBlack Mar 2018 #321

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #323

Did you vote for Kerry? He voted for the war too. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #437

Would you rather he had run as an Independent in 2016? KPN Mar 2018 #101

Yes. I would rather he not have used the Democratic Party for money, attention, etc. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #115

The irreparable damage and division mostly shows up on places like DU. progressoid Mar 2018 #190

Same here. That's a good observation. KPN Mar 2018 #215

No it doesn't. It often shows up in elections...it showed up in Texas a week or so ago. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #439

Hillary's voter models? Backing of top party KPN Mar 2018 #214

Yes. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #223

Yes, exactly, this is why he knew that he needed Democrats. R B Garr Mar 2018 #217

I disagree with your opinion. Bernie caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #291

He consistently bashes the Democratic party and it's members. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #293

Yes, he does seem to have a lot of anger. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #300

Yes. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #109

Didnt see it, but that guy might have made sense... KTM Mar 2018 #284

Sally Albright and her Bernie attack bots and minions. CentralMass Mar 2018 #164

You call fellow Dems trolls? BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #461

Some on du hate Bernie more than Trump. Trump is the bad guy dembotoz Mar 2018 #13

Don't hate Bernie DownriverDem Mar 2018 #18

You Do Realize He Was Welcomed To Run In The Primaries, Right? ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #45

And I Hope They Realize What A Massive Blunder That Was Me. Mar 2018 #56

Amen. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #62

... Me. Mar 2018 #71

We All Have Our Opinions ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #88

Yes Me. Mar 2018 #443

NEVER NEVER Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #441

Ever Me. Mar 2018 #445

to the woodshed...post haste. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #448

Exactly Me. Mar 2018 #449

Just like Democratic party members have welcomed Bernie to caucus with them. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #204

So you'd rather be ran as an I? KPN Mar 2018 #106

Yes...either way he worked hard to misdirect votes in the GE away from Dems BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #146

Soundly repudiated? Big assumption. KPN Mar 2018 #152

I'm not interested in supporting or helping Bernie Rah Rah posts. BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #167

Oh ... so blame Bernie for Russia meddling. KPN Mar 2018 #220

I don't hate anyone more than Trump. And I don't hate Sen. Sanders. I just don't think the stuff he Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #22

It's the economy, and how it's rigged to favor the rich. Let's keep focused! DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #37

Again same old same old without fresh ideas to address this. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #69

We know the ACA and health care is why we won PA 18...so that is what should be discussed. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #70

That is not a winning issue in moderate districts where folks are more concerned with Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #171

Jobs and healthcare are EXACTLY what Bernie Sanders has been talking about.They are pyramid flippers DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #239

We are talking about the Town Hall on income inequality...and we don't Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #274

It is pertinent to talking about what actually ails us. Any democrats not talking about it JCanete Mar 2018 #123

It's not hatred, it's just wariness of a man who teamed up with people like Cornel West, who DanTex Mar 2018 #52

⬆⬆⬆ THIS! ⬆⬆⬆ NurseJackie Mar 2018 #64

Note how he has to go back 16 years to the Iraq war, but he never talks about the real issues... R B Garr Mar 2018 #92

So why do you think that is? KPN Mar 2018 #108

Well that audience STILL matters. Our own leaders need to see how many people JCanete Mar 2018 #142

Inspiring people is mostly useless unless the inspired people end up voting D. DanTex Mar 2018 #169

its useless if all they do is vote D. If that is going to be your rationale over issues, JCanete Mar 2018 #175

No, it's certainly not useless. At all. DanTex Mar 2018 #221

We agree, post primary vote D, assuming its still worth believing in something. JCanete Mar 2018 #267

Why the qualification? Why "assuming"? DanTex Mar 2018 #278

Yeah, like that useless Obama and his inspirational speeches. progressoid Mar 2018 #191

Obama got people voting D. Like I said, that's what matters. DanTex Mar 2018 #210

How many Democrats do you interact with IRL? progressoid Mar 2018 #241

Sure seems that way. KPN Mar 2018 #105

Sad, but true. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #195

I will say it again. . Kurt V. Mar 2018 #14

and the most ignored. Climate Change is right up there too but even w/ all that, TRUMP CousinIT Mar 2018 #29

We HAVE to have something to vote FOR DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #39

Sorry human rights should take a back seat to nothing. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #44

Human rights are totally at the mercy of the thieves pooling all the wealth + levers of power. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #126

Trump did not steal Bernie's message or voters...completely different. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #72

Trump talked about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Bernie talked about the same with a deeper perspective. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #240

All candidates talk about jobs in every election...to compare Trump with Sanders is a disservice to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #273

Climate change is right there. Kurt V. Mar 2018 #40

He partnered up with TYT? Didn't they get several million dollars from conservative republican.... George II Mar 2018 #38

Yes, "Our New Buddy" he called him. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #46

That's a LOT of money! At first glance it seems peculiar that it's coming from a Republican... NurseJackie Mar 2018 #57

wow....what a bad point. Come on George...fucking a. What does that even ammount to? JCanete Mar 2018 #133

I watched and it was a really good discussion about an overlooked issue with many Nanjeanne Mar 2018 #41

None of the issues discussed will help in 9n my opinion. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #73

You watched all 90 minutes and felt that nothing discussed will help. Interesting opinion. Thanks Nanjeanne Mar 2018 #84

I read the transcripts...and I saw nothing I had not seen before or heard during the 16 primary. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #184

You read transcripts of the whole 90 minutes? Wow that's dedication. Nanjeanne Mar 2018 #192

I read a great deal...I have ADD and could never sit though 90 minutes. I have been stessed about Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #444

There were about 450 in audience and about 100 in overflow so hard to judge audience Nanjeanne Mar 2018 #466

My feeling is that income inequality is consequence of bad policies in terms of taxing, health Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #470

Loved the town hall, and I love this thread Autumn Mar 2018 #48

You and those who imagine they're opposing Sanders both. Hortensis Mar 2018 #63

Yuppers.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #85

It the smart way to reach people and get them informed and involved. Autumn Mar 2018 #102

Officially join the Dem party Bernie awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #60

Purity politics helps nobody Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #75

You took my comments to an extreme there awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #81

+10 whathehell Mar 2018 #82

What if this is the way to make Citizens United irrelevant? yurbud Mar 2018 #61

I have no interest in helping any third party candidate. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #458

Income Inequality is an issue we can win on. jalan48 Mar 2018 #76

Agree backtoblue Mar 2018 #77

Bernie ought to stop spending so much time getting economic equality A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2018 #90

As he sits in his new lakehouse with his million$$ bank acct. Wwcd Mar 2018 #94

He's WORST than trump, AND A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2018 #98

He is an Independant. He has no loyalty to any particular Party. Wwcd Mar 2018 #107

Then I wonder why the DU even has a Bernie Democrats Group? Omaha Steve Mar 2018 #129

I wonder the same thing. When you clearly state that you joined the Dem Party for "Money & Media", Wwcd Mar 2018 #139

Kind of hanging him before the fair trial? Omaha Steve Mar 2018 #144

No one's "hanging" anyone. Mueller named Sanders for a reason. Wwcd Mar 2018 #155

Deal Omaha Steve Mar 2018 #158

"lived off the public for 40 yrs" Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #117

He never had a real job until he was 40 years old. That is a well known fact lunamagica Mar 2018 #125

Wow Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #130

His resume and accomplishments are quite modest and unimpressive lunamagica Mar 2018 #137

Let's start with their college years. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #148

Nice try, lol. She wore a button to please her dad. Now, let's see lunamagica Mar 2018 #160

OK. Couple things. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #224

Did any of this (Other than the sit-in) happen before he was 40? lunamagica Mar 2018 #234

Or voting for the Crime Bill EffieBlack Mar 2018 #299

This is copy and pasted from a site? sheshe2 Mar 2018 #235

"Couple things"? George II Mar 2018 #236

You may want to check your sources... lunamagica Mar 2018 #287

That is very interesting, luna. brer cat Mar 2018 #326

Funny how no link to the source was added, huh? lunamagica Mar 2018 #327

He has pretty much zero foreign policy. Something that will be critical in 2020 Wwcd Mar 2018 #161

Just some of the mysteries in Senator Transparecy's past lunamagica Mar 2018 #162

R U kidding? Since when do people vote for president because of their foreign policy bonafides? progressoid Mar 2018 #194

It's an impotant factor for me. comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #304

That's not at all what was stated. Wwcd Mar 2018 #157

SNCC may not hold a torch to corporate lawyering. David__77 Mar 2018 #201

How about being the former director of the Arkansas Legal Aid Clinic? It's all matter lunamagica Mar 2018 #203

Yes, let's conveniently forget the history here... ehrnst Mar 2018 #335

He did this in college-and then high-tailed it out of there and ran to the whitest state in the US EffieBlack Mar 2018 #211

Well, that's kind of a Catch-22, isn't it? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #227

Not at all EffieBlack Mar 2018 #230

We have other Senators of pretty liberal states elected as "progressives", too. George II Mar 2018 #290

Not sure what the number of people in his state have to do with it. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #305

95.2% white. 61.1 % rural ehrnst Mar 2018 #336

Nothing wrong with what he did EffieBlack Mar 2018 #340

hehe JCanete Mar 2018 #122

Bernie doing outreach, energizing voters and new voters that resides KPN Mar 2018 #110

Who's Party? Which Party does an independent have loyalty to? Wwcd Mar 2018 #127

Magnitsky, Magnitsky. How many times KPN Mar 2018 #149

What should be a broken record is about our Dems voting to gut Frank Dodd. I still haven't Autumn Mar 2018 #154

That vote neither aligned with Democratic nor Progressive values Wwcd Mar 2018 #163

What about the other 3 Democratic votes against? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #187

An honest answer was given .. by Sanders himself. KPN Mar 2018 #209

Oh ya, something something..oh ya Iran.. ya thats it. Wwcd Mar 2018 #229

Here is some nice reading for you. CentralMass Mar 2018 #165

Thx. KPN Mar 2018 #213

I will never forget how Bernie Sanders spoke out against the Iraq War and voted against it. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #302

That's not true. Sanders was one of 133 Members who voted no EffieBlack Mar 2018 #312

Bernie was one of 23 Senators who voted against the war. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #318

No, he wasn't. Sanders was a Congressman in 2001. He wasn't elected to the Senate until 2006 EffieBlack Mar 2018 #320

OK, I was wrong. Bluepinky Mar 2018 #322

Well apparently none of that matters. Or even that the Dems gave him that position. Good thing DU Nanjeanne Mar 2018 #193

Not everyone supports Sanders proposed policies. David__77 Mar 2018 #200

Not all Democrats? Which proposed policies? KPN Mar 2018 #216

...you don't say? I can imagine that nobody in the top 1 percent of the top JCanete Mar 2018 #330

Love it! That's what Bernie does best! Showing, once again, why he's such a valuable asset. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2018 #206

Yep. KPN Mar 2018 #260

You mean at the Our Revolution rally in Texas? sheshe2 Mar 2018 #258

You feel that way as well about the Working Families Party? KPN Mar 2018 #259

I hope they signed up voters for the Democratic party at the rally. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #261

Sanders has always harped on the way to KPN Mar 2018 #262

Aaah. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #263

This was an online rally. It wasn't a huge love-fest KPN Mar 2018 #264

Yes...on line. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #265

It was excellent.. mountain grammy Mar 2018 #134

You got that right.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #281

How many times was the word "establishment" mentioned? Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #147

were we ever in the Sanders camp? I'd avoid conflating media bullshit with JCanete Mar 2018 #153

Slow your roll my man, I voted for Sanders in the primary... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #156

+++++ sheshe2 Mar 2018 #185

"not worthy" .... Perfect. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #188

+++yup, anyone not acknowledging current Russian interference R B Garr Mar 2018 #228

Bernie Sanders: Russia and Stormy Daniels distract us from real problem of inequality Cha Mar 2018 #247

Always with the screaming angry face. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #269

I never liked him.. since he thought it was Cha Mar 2018 #270

So many what the fuck moments for me. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #271

I love it when people Cha Mar 2018 #272

Oh FFS! mcar Mar 2018 #301

Perhaps the purists are opposed to Bernie Sanders. David__77 Mar 2018 #199

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #306

". . .during an online broadcast Monday night." ucrdem Mar 2018 #202

Bernie Sanders: Russia and Stormy Daniels distract us from real problem of inequality Cha Mar 2018 #249

Inequality ucrdem Mar 2018 #250

I know.. Conor Lamb campaigned a lot on Cha Mar 2018 #252

Yes Lamb addressed these issues in an honest way it seems and won. ucrdem Mar 2018 #469

Yeah, Cha Mar 2018 #481

Exactamenudo. ucrdem Mar 2018 #482

Interesting.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #280

LOL, people have been telling me that since 1994 ucrdem Mar 2018 #288

Socialist.. disillusioned73 Mar 2018 #337

Not very. ucrdem Mar 2018 #356

Thank you, Donkees saidsimplesimon Mar 2018 #205

The panic is palpable GaryCnf Mar 2018 #226

Sanders Has Named the Problem -- Now Let's See Action dlk Mar 2018 #277

Thank God EffieBlack Mar 2018 #296

Hell, I'll just accept that you recognize that Sanders has the right JCanete Mar 2018 #329

And I'll just accept that you don't know the difference between EffieBlack Mar 2018 #334

I have no reason at all to argue with you on that point because we can't even get JCanete Mar 2018 #347

Wow still going on eh? awesomerwb1 Mar 2018 #303

This is THE issue for our times that Democrats are not addressing effectively. alarimer Mar 2018 #339

17 out of how many? Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #342

Enough for the bill to pass so it doesn't fucking matter. alarimer Mar 2018 #346

17 out of how many? nt Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #376

ENOUGH FOR IT TO PASS!!!!!!!!!!!! alarimer Mar 2018 #378

So a majority of Dems voted against the bill. Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #379

So what? alarimer Mar 2018 #380

You seem to be focused on the 17 rather than the 32. Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #381

Because they voted with the GOP. alarimer Mar 2018 #382

So if the GOP sponsored a bill for Single Payer Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #395

You win today's Jumping the Shark Award. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2018 #428

Why? Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #463

I love hyperbole. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2018 #467

Well they can't if they want to get elected. Have you looked at the Senate map? This was not a bad Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #402

Bernie would have defeated Donnie in 2016 quartz007 Mar 2018 #354

Not hardly but if he'd run 3rd party like Perot he might have done us some good. ucrdem Mar 2018 #355

This is EXACTLY the scenario! R B Garr Mar 2018 #369

Yes I've thought all along that they should have called his bluff ucrdem Mar 2018 #440

Exactly right, again. We couldn't get through a second one of his spiels R B Garr Mar 2018 #473

3rd parties are unpredictable nm quartz007 Mar 2018 #374

That's a strange but interesting point. Now it would have damaged Sanders horribly and JCanete Mar 2018 #405

I don't think so...he might have taken more votes from Hillary...in would have in my Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #408

Nope...the votes were not there to become the nominee so how could he win a general? Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #404

well, I don't know that he could have, but that logic doesn't hold, since JCanete Mar 2018 #406

Maybe, I am not an expert. But I keep thinking there is a reason, the GOP and it seems the Russians Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #415

It hasn't damaged the party. The damage done to the party is most significanlty JCanete Mar 2018 #421

There is an entire group out there who thinks Sen.Sanders was cheated out of the nomination. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #447

So you have the ability Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #464

No, but my rate of prediction success is quartz007 Mar 2018 #465

That high a rate is impression Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #468

Don't change the subject matter quartz007 Mar 2018 #474

Trump observed politics for 50 years too Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #475

tRump had little time for politics quartz007 Mar 2018 #477

You dont know that Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #478

Again 2/3 times my predictions were correct. quartz007 Mar 2018 #479

And I am the czar of all the Russias Trumpocalypse Mar 2018 #483

We have been through this already. Isnt this the same R B Garr Mar 2018 #370

Has anyone watched the video? oberliner Mar 2018 #412

I read the transcript. I have ADD ...couldn't possibly have sat through that. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #416

Where did you read the transcript? oberliner Mar 2018 #417

My son sent it to me...he knows I have trouble with stuff like that...he loves Sen.Sanders. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #456

Does it include all the interviews with the guests or just the statements from Sanders, et al? oberliner Mar 2018 #457

I don't know if it has all the statements or not since I didn't watch it but it was quite long... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #459

That story about Selma really hit me as well oberliner Mar 2018 #462