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31. This is why we need UBI. Because progress is painful but inevitable...

Reply to Ferrets are Cool (Original post)

Fri Mar 23, 2018, 10:48 PM

Mar 2018

Because the only way we get to something a little closer to that Star Trek utopia is through automation which replaces jobs that are drudge work. Jobs that are outdated. That isn't a judgement of the jobs themsleves or the people who do them. It's simply a statement that technology eventually progresses to a point where it's cheaper and more efficient to fully automated the job. And the truth is that properly handled with UBI, training and humane services it's better for society and people as a whole. None of our modern society and the benefits we have from it would exist were it not for automation which has done away with countless millions of jobs. It's not automation that we need to stop but punishing people for being put out of work BY automation. Again I go back to UBI.

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Please help me understand something about self-driving cars [View all] Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 OP

I don't understand the point of it. madaboutharry Mar 2018 #1

Because "we" aren't relevant. People who want to cut cost on drivers are. JHB Mar 2018 #2

It opens up access to people with disabilities ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #3

Ding, Ding, Ding You are the winner!nt USALiberal Mar 2018 #8

what's wrong with taxis, buses, lyft, etc.? nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2018 #37

Nothing, but then, why should anyone have his own car? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #40

I'm going to guess... jberryhill Mar 2018 #4

I think of my elderly parents who don't feel confident driving anymore femmedem Mar 2018 #5

This may be a little exaggerated, but maybe not, too DFW Mar 2018 #6

You can't and should not stop technological advancement........ USALiberal Mar 2018 #7

Why would we want combines to harvest our wheat? Major Nikon Mar 2018 #9

That was a decision based on cost. Igel Mar 2018 #11

This decision would be the same FBaggins Mar 2018 #26

The point is productivity is only going to go in one direction Major Nikon Mar 2018 #28

So. Blue_true Mar 2018 #48

Because 1.3 million people are killed Codeine Mar 2018 #10

They're not safer yet. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #13

They will be, by a large margin. nt Blue_true Mar 2018 #49

Reduction of road rage incidents cagefreesoylentgreen Mar 2018 #46

I have to disagree with you there. I think it will make things worse. Coventina Mar 2018 #55

Thats fair cagefreesoylentgreen Mar 2018 #58

I am dreading the coming day when I have to take my parents' car from them. TomSlick Mar 2018 #12

I was lucky. My mother made one serious driving mistake, sometime in her mid seventies, pnwmom Mar 2018 #15

You were VERY lucky. TomSlick Mar 2018 #18

Ten years earlier, my mother had gotten hurt in an accident pnwmom Mar 2018 #22

Hard lesson well learned. TomSlick Mar 2018 #24

One issue that older people have is they think they need a car to get to doctor's appointments. pnwmom Mar 2018 #25

Great, unless you live in a small town with no Uber drivers. TomSlick Mar 2018 #27

You're right, of course. Self-driving cars will be especially important in rural areas pnwmom Mar 2018 #29

Buggy Whips Union 101 local, represent! n/t X_Digger Mar 2018 #14

Thanks so much for adding significantly to this discussion. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #61

It'd be like kicking a puppy, when so many have already said it so well. X_Digger Mar 2018 #63

Safety, limit environmental impact, freedom of mobility... nt NCTraveler Mar 2018 #16

Two out of three ain't bad FrodosNewPet Mar 2018 #32

You didnt negate my points. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2018 #39

Well, in theory if people stop buying and owning cars in large numbers and are told 'you WILL share mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #56

I don't see why we use computers to communicate when we have perfectly good postal workers mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2018 #17

When is the last time someone died because their computer crashed into another Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #62

For the same reasons we want other technology gains mythology Mar 2018 #19

I would buy one tomorrow if.... Kilgore Mar 2018 #20

Self-driving cars are needed to fire hundreds of thousands of professional drivers. Doodley Mar 2018 #21

Tell us the last time you demanded to have a operator place your phone call... brooklynite Mar 2018 #23

Or an elevator operator. NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #34

Driving down the road is only a first step. rickford66 Mar 2018 #30

So many benefits eventually. Cars that talk to each other, space themselves out evenly. lostnfound Mar 2018 #44

I've been writing similar s/w for a dozen years or so. rickford66 Mar 2018 #50

This is why we need UBI. Because progress is painful but inevitable... Locut0s Mar 2018 #31

I'm with you. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2018 #53

Death to car culture. I don't care who or what is driving. hunter Mar 2018 #33

Good luck with that.... Adrahil Mar 2018 #35

yes! loyalsister Mar 2018 #36

They could be of vital importance for people with disabilities that prevent them from driving LeftishBrit Mar 2018 #38

most normal average Americans will grow older, lose their ability to see well enough to drive, DrDan Mar 2018 #41

"If I had asked the people what they wanted, they would have told me faster horses." EffieBlack Mar 2018 #42

They are as safe as our paper free electronic eections! McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 #43

Safety spinbaby Mar 2018 #45

Utility, freedom from mistakes, available on demand. Blue_true Mar 2018 #47

like who the hell would ride in them? samnsara Mar 2018 #51

Did they find the car guilty in the recent accident... Historic NY Mar 2018 #52

I own four vehicles, three are vintage SonofDonald Mar 2018 #54

We way overestimate the ability of technology to do human things. MineralMan Mar 2018 #57

Like most advances in technology treestar Mar 2018 #59

I think the real appeal to some people... forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #60