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TomCADem

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Sat Mar 24, 2018, 10:04 PM Mar 2018

Why shouldn't the gun industry be liable for damage done by its products? Calling All Progressives! [View all]

On the day of the March for Life it is important to note a key moment when members of Congress did not merely fail to take action to pass gun control laws, but when they actively conspired with gun makers to immunize them from damages and suits that result from their products. The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a United States law which protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Gun makers are making a killing when it comes to profits and the promotion of gun culture. Shouldn't they be held responsible for the damages that flow from their efforts to market and distribute such dangerous products?

Right wingers always talk about responsibility. Well, lets start holding politicians accountable for holding gun makers responsible, rather than coddling them. Here is a great article by noted legal scholar Erwin Cherminsky, the Dean of UC Berkeley Law School:

http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/california-forum/article178170691.html

It is time to stop giving the gun industry special protections that are not accorded to other businesses. In 2005, Congress passed the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act which prevents gun companies from being sued by the victims of gun violence.

The NRA got it right when it called this “the most significant piece of pro-gun legislation in twenty years.” No other industry enjoys this special treatment.

The massacre in Las Vegas occurred because gun companies make semi-automatic weapons that are easily converted into automatic weapons that can kill large numbers of people in a short amount of time. Gun manufacturers take automatic military weapons like the M-16 and modify them into legal, semi-automatic weapons, like the AR-15. They can be turned back into automatic weapons, through bump stocks or other techniques that are described on many websites. Ammunition magazines with large capacity are manufactured that serve no purpose for hunting or sport.

If gun companies could be held liable the way all other manufacturers can be sued, they would not make such products or they would do far more to ensure the weapons could not be used for mass killings. But the 2005 Act dismissed all pending claims against gun manufacturers in both federal and state courts and preempted all future claims.


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8xde4z/sandy-hook-families-are-still-fighting

Sandy Hook Families Are Still Fighting

As survivors of the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High demand answers from pro-gun politicians across Florida and the country, the families forever connected to a similarly infamous school up North are still waiting for a chance at justice. A little over three years ago, several relatives of victims in the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, filed a lawsuit against AR-15 manufacturer Bushmaster—the parent company of which is Remington—seeking both monetary and punitive damages, as well attorney's fees and injunctive relief. At at the time, the suit seemed extremely unlikely to go forward because of a federal law protecting dealers and manufacturers from liability over gun deaths. But in a remarkable move, a judge said more than a year later that discovery could proceed, and even set a tentative trial date of April 3, 2018.

The families hit another roadblock when the same judge dismissed the suit in the fall of 2016. But the plaintiffs kicked the case up to the Connecticut Supreme Court on appeal, where a panel of judges are still waiting to decide if a creative legal argument might get the claim around the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA.)

Basically, the lawyers for the families have tried to claim two exceptions to that law. One is that the sale of the AR-15 to shooter Adam Lanza's mom violated a state law; the second has to do with how the gun has been advertised. Although the judges could decide whether the exceptions are valid at any time, Remington recently announced it was planning to file for bankruptcy, adding another wrinkle to an already-strange legal saga.


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maybe a democrat could introduce a repeal of this provision in congress. maybe? nt msongs Mar 2018 #1
+50,000 Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #3
And for no reason beyond blatant corruption of the GOP world wide wally Mar 2018 #2
The humpers will be along to gunsplain why any minute. Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #4
Im ok with PLCAA. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #5
Under That Logic, Why Not Protect Opiod Makers, Tobacco Companies... TomCADem Mar 2018 #6
Those companies ARE protected from the kinds of lawsuits being called for here Jim Lane Mar 2018 #7
Well I dont think opioid manufacturers are doing anything wrong aikoaiko Mar 2018 #9
Under That Logic, Gun Makers Should Internalize The Damages They Create TomCADem Mar 2018 #17
Thats not what I said. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #18
They are the ONLY manufactures of ANYTHING Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #10
Im ok with that. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #11
Wow. Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #12
PLCAA specifically doesnt cover negilent design or entrustment aikoaiko Mar 2018 #13
Emotion Based Lawsuits? Sandy Hook families push to reinstate lawsuit against gun manufacturer TomCADem Mar 2018 #15
Of course I'm not saying they werent slaughted - the Sandy Hook massacre happened. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #16
Actually, no, they're not. Vaccine makers and airplane mfgrs have similar protections. X_Digger Mar 2018 #14
I hate guns, but it's not a secret what guns are made for. Vinca Mar 2018 #8
Damn good idea.....and ALL the Democratics should rally around this idea...... a kennedy Mar 2018 #19
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