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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
7. Those companies ARE protected from the kinds of lawsuits being called for here
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 05:37 AM
Mar 2018

Last edited Sun Mar 25, 2018, 06:11 AM - Edit history (1)

At Charlottesville, one of the Nazis drove his car into a crowd of demonstrators, killing Heather Heyer and injuring several others. Those victims have no cause of action against the manufacturer of the automobile.

There are restrictions on advertising and other ways that companies promote their products. The PLCAA doesn't immunize gun manufacturers from suits for violating such rules. As the linked article states, the PLCAA governs suits "for the harm caused solely by the criminal or unlawful misuse of firearm products or ammunition products by others when the product functioned as designed and intended.”

I favor legislation to address the gun problem. I oppose the back-door use of courts to circumvent the legislative process by imposing liability on defendants we don't like.

And I am not now, nor have I ever been, a gun-humper. I've never even owned any type of firearm.

ETA: The basic point of the PLCAA is to block lawsuits that would be analogous to a suit by a Charlottesville victim against the automobile manufacturer. Whenever Congress passes a law, however, lawyers set to work looking for loopholes, strained interpretations, legislative oversights, etc. It would obviously be reasonable to amend the law to fix any problems of that sort.

For example, this report from the Congressional Research Service notes that one of the PLCAA exceptions allows an action for "negligent entrustment" if a gun dealer sells a gun to someone when the dealer "knows, or reasonably should know," that the buyer is likely to misuse it. The problem is that, if you make your way through the chain of definitions in the law, you find that a manufacturer selling directly to such a person might not be a "seller" as defined in the law and might therefore be immune. My guess is that Congress, in drafting the exception, was thinking about gun shops and simply overlooked the possibility of direct sales by manufacturers. That loophole should be closed. A manufacturer selling direct to the public should be held to the same standards as a dealer.

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maybe a democrat could introduce a repeal of this provision in congress. maybe? nt msongs Mar 2018 #1
+50,000 Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #3
And for no reason beyond blatant corruption of the GOP world wide wally Mar 2018 #2
The humpers will be along to gunsplain why any minute. Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #4
Im ok with PLCAA. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #5
Under That Logic, Why Not Protect Opiod Makers, Tobacco Companies... TomCADem Mar 2018 #6
Those companies ARE protected from the kinds of lawsuits being called for here Jim Lane Mar 2018 #7
Well I dont think opioid manufacturers are doing anything wrong aikoaiko Mar 2018 #9
Under That Logic, Gun Makers Should Internalize The Damages They Create TomCADem Mar 2018 #17
Thats not what I said. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #18
They are the ONLY manufactures of ANYTHING Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #10
Im ok with that. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #11
Wow. Tavarious Jackson Mar 2018 #12
PLCAA specifically doesnt cover negilent design or entrustment aikoaiko Mar 2018 #13
Emotion Based Lawsuits? Sandy Hook families push to reinstate lawsuit against gun manufacturer TomCADem Mar 2018 #15
Of course I'm not saying they werent slaughted - the Sandy Hook massacre happened. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #16
Actually, no, they're not. Vaccine makers and airplane mfgrs have similar protections. X_Digger Mar 2018 #14
I hate guns, but it's not a secret what guns are made for. Vinca Mar 2018 #8
Damn good idea.....and ALL the Democratics should rally around this idea...... a kennedy Mar 2018 #19
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