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114. Yes, $150bbn

Sun Mar 25, 2018, 02:14 PM

Mar 2018

Which is about 10% of the last "budget bill."

I'm a gun owner, but enough IS enough. Japan made it life in prison if you are caught on the street - committing a crime or not - with a gun. So now, machetes are common.

Australia bought all the guns - now bullies have a field day.

I do not know what the answer is. As long as people go nuts when AWB or any gun laws are discussed, we know that we have a pronlem. When peeps can't talk about things calmly, that's a pretty strong indicator of dysfunction; i.e., that something is fscked up somewhere.

Perhaps Canada is the answer. Certainly some peeps need psychiatric therapy. Walking down the streets in fatigues while brandishing AR-15s is not helping. But then one expects right-wingers doing nonsensical things when one talks about "Don't mess with us" Texas...

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What is an "assault rifle," he asked sarcastically. [View all] Mortos Mar 2018 OP

I could have used that last night Phoenix61 Mar 2018 #1

Last night is when I was posed the question, again Mortos Mar 2018 #6

Me. Too duhneece Mar 2018 #98

I'm saving this for future discussions here in Marble Falls. marble falls Mar 2018 #2

Are you talking about Marble Falls, TX? Miigwech Mar 2018 #7

Marble Falls, Tx marble falls Mar 2018 #19

Pretty sure there is only one Marble Falls just as there is only one Lampasas. efhmc Mar 2018 #67

There's a couple of Marble Falls, only one Lampasas marble falls Mar 2018 #128

Well only one Marble Falls in this neck of the woods. efhmc Mar 2018 #162

I drive through Lampasas about monthly when I go to Temple VA.... marble falls Mar 2018 #163

No, sorry. efhmc Mar 2018 #172

Good people, both him and his sister. Local musician, stole Pootie's statue from Pootie's bar... marble falls Mar 2018 #186

here's some Donnie Price for you.... marble falls Mar 2018 #226

Thanks. efhmc Mar 2018 #229

Donnie's just a good all around decent human being. marble falls Mar 2018 #230

Excellent. It is also weapon of choice of 3%ers, oathkeepers, militia groups, racists, white wingers Hoyt Mar 2018 #3

Ever notice that you never see these clowns with one-shot, bolt-action deer rifles? Aristus Mar 2018 #10

That is my rifle of choice, and I won't have anything to do with the NRA RainCaster Mar 2018 #17

Hopefully, you will no longer have that choice before long. Hoyt Mar 2018 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #140

If a mighty, mighty deer hunter can't work the action of a hunting rifle Aristus Mar 2018 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #143

I'm fine with a five-round magazine. Aristus Mar 2018 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #148

And then they banned gun sales through the mail. Aristus Mar 2018 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #245

Or we could go BOTH ways! Aristus Mar 2018 #253

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #283

You know as well as I do that semi-auto weapons with high-capacity magazines Aristus Mar 2018 #286

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #290

Apparently you don't know very well. Straw Man Mar 2018 #296

Not one with an IQ above 75. paleotn Mar 2018 #43

low iQ Larrybanal Mar 2018 #57

That picture shows a group of armed militia showing an enemy flag. padfun Mar 2018 #131

I think the data show that handguns are still the preferred weapon of school shooters. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #4

Come on Mortos Mar 2018 #8

Not a dodge. The AWB you tote covers semiauto rifles, shotguns, & handguns in certain configurations aikoaiko Mar 2018 #9

So because gunners insist on writing watered-down laws that allow too many loopholes shanny Mar 2018 #15

Not quite. The latest AWB after Sandy Hook was defeated by changing the grip for $35 aikoaiko Mar 2018 #16

Well I am tired of stupid enthusiasts Tumbulu Mar 2018 #22

Oooh, pleasure seeking. So evil. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #37

Aussies said precisely the same thing.... paleotn Mar 2018 #41

Look, I'm no big gun fan, don't know a ton about them but s/he appears to be correct ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #59

Aussies paid gun owners compensation NickB79 Mar 2018 #87

Yes, $150bbn TwistOneUp Mar 2018 #114

When your pleasure Tumbulu Mar 2018 #113

I'm confident all firearms won't be banned within the US in 5 years aikoaiko Mar 2018 #121

"If the gun nuts don't stop this obfuscation all weapons will be banned in the US within 5 years" EX500rider Mar 2018 #133

You will see, that remains the choice of the gun nuts Tumbulu Mar 2018 #154

Pass some laws first hack89 Mar 2018 #165

Dream on and watch Tumbulu Mar 2018 #167

I have been watching for over 20 years hack89 Mar 2018 #168

"or the imaginary right will be taken away." EX500rider Mar 2018 #169

Just dream on. No need for you to worry Tumbulu Mar 2018 #174

One of us needs to dream on, that I agree with. EX500rider Mar 2018 #214

Pretty sure all laws and rights are by their very nature, imaginary LanternWaste Mar 2018 #211

No, all those things are not imaginary.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #215

Trump was the 1st one to suggest it weissmam Mar 2018 #129

insincere HopeAgain Mar 2018 #29

Yeah, I'm been transparent about my firearms. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #32

Ban them all, but put in a provision to send all ex gun owners thoughts and prayers cards. Canoe52 Mar 2018 #192

That's funny. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #193

horse shit..... paleotn Mar 2018 #39

Perfect snort Mar 2018 #101

"I'll make it simple for you.... EX500rider Mar 2018 #134

And so were Browning BAR's paleotn Mar 2018 #150

"As one who seems to think the blood of innocent people is just the price we have to pay... EX500rider Mar 2018 #152

The constitution gives the rights for states to keep militias Tumbulu Mar 2018 #155

The Bill of Rights guarantees the rights of the people. EX500rider Mar 2018 #159

Dream on, times up Tumbulu Mar 2018 #160

Rate of fire for all semi-autos are pretty much the same. Reloading magazines slows them down. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #195

The gun humpers show up at every turn to obfuscate the discussion AllyCat Mar 2018 #47

we can have both if you're willing to compromise. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #48

It's the gun nuts that aren't willing to compromise. Downtown Hound Mar 2018 #71

Absolutely! Tumbulu Mar 2018 #110

I don't consider gun bans to be compromises. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #282

Whatever. Don't even for one minute act like the problem is Downtown Hound Mar 2018 #325

compromising means giving as well as getting aikoaiko Mar 2018 #331

Sorry, kids are dying Downtown Hound Mar 2018 #338

Assault weapons AND dead kids? I think we AllyCat Mar 2018 #130

Nope...the lower receiver is the only part legally considered a gun.... mentalslavery Mar 2018 #23

I understand the lower is the only part regulated as a firearm, but that has never been aikoaiko Mar 2018 #34

you are not up on the debate...all of the things that I have said are part of current legislation mentalslavery Mar 2018 #51

Please show me the federal law that banned the AR15 lower. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #54

I just did dude, we had an national assault weapons band that sunsetted after W mentalslavery Mar 2018 #55

You are factually incorrect. AR lowers were never banned. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #62

you dont not know how to read legislation...section C...you figured otu the google tho! mentalslavery Mar 2018 #66

I love it .....the legislation literally says Colt AR and your like, it never banned AR lowers..WHAA mentalslavery Mar 2018 #70

You are still factually wrong about the 1994 banned AR lowers aikoaiko Mar 2018 #73

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #75

rofl aikoaiko Mar 2018 #78

thought you were walkin way.. mentalslavery Mar 2018 #80

Actually, I said I wouldn't argue. Laughing is another matter. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #86

You should have walked away before sputtering nonsense about lowers being banned in 94. Marengo Mar 2018 #173

I worked the gun counter at a sporting goods store in 2000. We sold AR's NickB79 Mar 2018 #90

Legislatures will study and review the guns that have been used in mass shootings Sophia4 Mar 2018 #91

Agree 100%! Tumbulu Mar 2018 #156

You are absolutely right. So future legislation should be worded flamin lib Mar 2018 #42

Precisely.... paleotn Mar 2018 #46

"We have the numbers...we have the votes. They do not." EX500rider Mar 2018 #135

Um no.... paleotn Mar 2018 #149

Whats your valid reason for owning those firearms? Marengo Mar 2018 #175

hand guns and bolt action only...comin for your guns... mentalslavery Mar 2018 #74

Handguns are responsible for far greater numbers of gun deaths and injury than rifles of any type... Marengo Mar 2018 #177

what about limiting the size of the magazine.? Kurt V. Mar 2018 #72

Of course. Its probably the smartest thing that is doable. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #76

good. i know gun owners that support this Kurt V. Mar 2018 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Mar 2018 #85

Arguing with aikoaiko is like arguing with the NRA. nt USALiberal Mar 2018 #50

ANY Gun of any size or clip capability is an ASSAULT weapon, Guns are made for Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #276

Fine, let's do something about those too. Glad you brought it up. Hoyt Mar 2018 #13

Yes! Tumbulu Mar 2018 #25

I triple dog dare you. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #35

See, this is really what its all about..Aikoaiko is a perfect example... mentalslavery Mar 2018 #77

My ignore list grows snort Mar 2018 #106

In what way is Aikoaiko a criminal? Marengo Mar 2018 #176

Amen! shanny Mar 2018 #36

Good,if true. The injuries are less lethal. But there is still the issue of pnwmom Mar 2018 #61

Well, then lets talk about magazine size rather than firearms. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #64

Police use SWAT tanks too. That doesn't mean civilians should. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #92

Technically, civilians can have tanks. Not many people want them. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #95

No, it is illegal for a civilian to drive around in a SWAT tank. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #104

Yes, its true that they don't have all the parts and you can't drive them on roads typically, aikoaiko Mar 2018 #108

Just to be clear... Adrahil Mar 2018 #206

Thanks for your concern about "clarity." SunSeeker Mar 2018 #218

He CAN fire real shells. He doesn't. Different point entirely. Adrahil Mar 2018 #222

It would be illegal to fire real Sherman tank shells. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #223

wrong on all points.. Adrahil Mar 2018 #225

It is not "perfectly legal" for a civilian to shoot a Sherman tank shell. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #227

Yes, it IS legal to shoot the gun. Adrahil Mar 2018 #228

An idiot doing stupid shit on Youtube doesn't prove it's legal. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #233

The Shermans main gun is classified as a large bore destructive device under Title II, and most... Marengo Mar 2018 #238

The "tanks are perfectly legal" talking point is demonstrably false. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #239

You have made several demonstrably false statements in this discussion and have been corrected. Marengo Mar 2018 #251

I have shown it is illegal, at least in California, the jurisdiction I am familiar with. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #261

Nonsense, you added that qualifier AFTER you were proven wrong. You are not well informed on... Marengo Mar 2018 #262

Wrong. The person I was responding to offered no qualifier, saying it was "perfectly legal." SunSeeker Mar 2018 #264

Rubbish, it is legal on a FEDERAL level, and in a majority of states. California code does not... Marengo Mar 2018 #269

If it is not legal for the majority of the US population; it's not "perfectly legal." SunSeeker Mar 2018 #271

I sincerely hope this is an intentional display of Marengo Mar 2018 #274

NY + Calif 59 million US pop 325 million....hardly a majority. EX500rider Mar 2018 #284

Wow, the tag teaming continues. Obsessed much? SunSeeker Mar 2018 #285

Just pointing out your poor math skills. EX500rider Mar 2018 #287

My math skills are good, EX500rider. Marengo cited only one unnamed state. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #289

How about this place, in TEXAS. oneshooter Mar 2018 #317

Heres a link to list of NFA laws by state compiled by a Class 3 dealer. The LBDD column containes.. Marengo Mar 2018 #326

Have any comment on the info in post #326? Marengo Mar 2018 #356

Uh oh, looks like youre wrong again. Legal with a permit from the California DOJ, 12305(b). Marengo Mar 2018 #327

Marengo, it is you who is wrong. Again. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #333

LOL! You claimed it is illegal to possess a large bore destructive device in CA, turns out its not Marengo Mar 2018 #334

It is illegal, as you will find out if you try to do it. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #335

Sorry, but you are owned by your own citation. 12305(b) allows for possession by individuals Marengo Mar 2018 #336

Nope. Narrow, CADOJ approved uses of cannons hardly equate to it being "perfectly legal." SunSeeker Mar 2018 #337

Sorry, your own citation proves a process exists to allow individuals to apply for a permit to.... Marengo Mar 2018 #339

That's like saying because a surgeon can cut someone open, it is "perfectly legal" to cut someone. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #340

I'd stop digging if I was you. EX500rider Mar 2018 #343

I'd stop making shit up if I were you. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #345

You were making shit up in post 104, and when proven wrong you starting tossing out qualfiers... Marengo Mar 2018 #355

Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #357

In other words, you were wrong. Did you intentionally fail to mention the statute provides... Marengo Mar 2018 #348

No, I cited the statute accurately. You wrongly said it was "perfectly legal." SunSeeker Mar 2018 #350

No, you are either uninformed or are being disingenuous. The good cause provision is not limited... Marengo Mar 2018 #354

I have one of these in my barn. Rebuilding the engine. Is this a "swat tank"? oneshooter Mar 2018 #316

full disclosure. .. Kurt V. Mar 2018 #183

17 people were killed in Parkland in 6 minutes, 26 people were killed in Sandy Hook.... George II Mar 2018 #83

I agree that ARs have been used in massive and tragic massacres. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #84

There are different ways to look at it - we can look at the number of incidents and weapons.... George II Mar 2018 #89

I agree there are different ways to look at it. Legitimate and illiminating ways. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #93

You are making an argument for the US to ban the sales and possession of semi-auto handguns. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2018 #182

Banning all semi-autos would be more consistent with what anti-gun violence want. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #185

Not necessary, most gun deaths are due to semi-auto handguns, frankly I have little interest... Humanist_Activist Mar 2018 #208

Handguns are responsible for a multitude of killings every single day across the country MichMan Mar 2018 #102

So let's stiffen the penalties for illegal carry...and make every single person who wants one Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #224

The problem is not the penalty. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #241

Not in New York...make it a felony. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #252

Felonies are plea-bargained away all the time. Straw Man Mar 2018 #265

Just because some won't get the max is no reason not have laws...people still murder but Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #272

What? Straw Man Mar 2018 #273

Perhaps I sent this to the wrong person...but those who say a law won't work because some will Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #297

And I presume it was a standard hand gun that was emptied into that black man in Sacto Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #277

Assuming are you referring to the recent police shooting, ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #292

Right, so all guns are a problem Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #298

I don't know how to build a watch, but I know how to tell time. forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #88

My watch says it's time to ban highly lethal weapons that grantcart Mar 2018 #171

+1 (n/t) forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #190

If the goal ... Straw Man Mar 2018 #266

Yesterday I marched in Pittsburgh carrying this sign FakeNoose Mar 2018 #5

Thank you. People who ought to know, say this -- Hoyt Mar 2018 #14

That signs stats seem unlikely. EX500rider Mar 2018 #136

Wow. Straw Man Mar 2018 #268

Great OP! nt raccoon Mar 2018 #11

They are weapons of war ornotna Mar 2018 #12

Nicely put. Paladin Mar 2018 #18

I can't add anything more MustLoveBeagles Mar 2018 #20

Another feature of an assault rifle SCVDem Mar 2018 #21

AN ASSAULT RIFLE IS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO LAY LEAD... mentalslavery Mar 2018 #30

Barrel length is an issue SCVDem Mar 2018 #120

A quicker response is, "Fuck off. You know what we're talking about." hunter Mar 2018 #24

I personally like..."oh...ok...well if you don't know what one is then you won't miss it" mentalslavery Mar 2018 #60

Good post - packman Mar 2018 #26

NRA trolls out in full force HopeAgain Mar 2018 #27

"NRA-Russian" Cryptoad Mar 2018 #52

You wouldnt align with Scalia on Texas v Johnson, Maryland v King, or Brown v EMA? Marengo Mar 2018 #178

great post Locrian Mar 2018 #28

No it was not hack89 Mar 2018 #166

So outlawing a round that wounds while leaving available.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #219

Thank you. K and R oasis Mar 2018 #31

An assault weapon is one that is pointed at me...... lastlib Mar 2018 #33

We can figure it out Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #38

Unless you have memorized and can recite . . . MrModerate Mar 2018 #40

LOL - what if your spouse is pointing one at you FakeNoose Mar 2018 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #144

Absolutely! We need a definition that includes these: William Seger Mar 2018 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #145

Same gun. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #242

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #247

Until we evolve, i.e. grow up and stop needing these toys, we should allow the 2nd to be Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #278

WOW! Thank you for that - may I quote you? Mountain Mule Mar 2018 #45

Share and quote away Mortos Mar 2018 #58

Thank you! I will! Mountain Mule Mar 2018 #164

I freely admit that I am anti-gun. Stonepounder Mar 2018 #56

All bullets yaw and break up on impact Abnredleg Mar 2018 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #146

According to wikipedia, approximately 1100 rounds. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #248

The problem is not the rate of fire either. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #244

I have a question for you regarding your last statement. Stonepounder Mar 2018 #256

Not presuming to answer for ManiacJoe, but I have my own ideas. Straw Man Mar 2018 #270

Thank you for a perfectly reasonable response to the first part of my question. Stonepounder Mar 2018 #275

Much of what we need is already in place. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #293

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #250

No guns would be needed at all, well almost none, if we enforced the 2nd Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #279

I have a new question for gun owners MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #63

I imagine most of them would say they plan to shoot it next time they go to the range or hunting. EX500rider Mar 2018 #68

White, racist hillbillies, mostly NickB79 Mar 2018 #97

Me, too! MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #99

Are you suggesting a Porsche should not be legal to own because it looks fast? MichMan Mar 2018 #157

No MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #161

Cars again? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #280

I'm sorry I even mentioned cars ... I see that used all the time now in arguments between pro-gun MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #312

Well, I do have a lot of swords... Adrahil Mar 2018 #207

Here's your chance to use it. I'll answer it Sailor65x1 Mar 2018 #232

No, you've answered it. You would kill animals that are menacing children (or others) MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #236

I have owned AR-15s for decades without harming a single living thing hack89 Mar 2018 #300

Yes, I have a question.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #65

Bump stocks Mortos Mar 2018 #137

Don't insult your intelligence by repeating the truth you already posted? EX500rider Mar 2018 #141

They say we don't know enough about guns to regulate them Fresh_Start Mar 2018 #69

Excellent counterpoints. Make the owners know about the effects. To their family/friends/loved ones erronis Mar 2018 #124

Why does anyone honestly own a gun outside of hunters and hunting rifles? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #281

Great post...I like to ask them what they would prefer to be shot by BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #79

Depends on the round. EX500rider Mar 2018 #258

Ill take the lower velocity handgun, Bob BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #260

What an "assault weapon" is depends on how Congress and legislatures define it when Sophia4 Mar 2018 #81

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2018 #82

2A nt Morris64 Mar 2018 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #96

-1000. It can be modified damn close. Besides in "legal" format, it's plenty lethal. Why else would Hoyt Mar 2018 #105

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #111

Close enough. Go play a stickler with 2nd Amendment folks, they love that crud. Hoyt Mar 2018 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #118

The "why are they popular" is very easy to answer. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #249

Kills effectively, makes you feel powerful as one mass shooter put it, easy to conceal, etc., is Hoyt Mar 2018 #254

"Why don't you guys give up these weapons voluntarily like "responsible" citizens." EX500rider Mar 2018 #259

He would want folks to give up their guns.. X_Digger Mar 2018 #288

One would think Hoyt would have learned by now. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #294

So another highly emotional plea painted with a broad brush krispos42 Mar 2018 #100

Fine, semi-auto handguns should be restricted too. AR15s are the most popular guns among Hoyt Mar 2018 #107

So your primary goal is stigginit to people you don't like krispos42 Mar 2018 #117

ban all of the above samir.g Mar 2018 #231

Im sorry, but theres nothing more obnoxious in a debate than pedantry. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #103

Exactly. Interview an ER doctor or EMT and let them describe what matters about these weapons. Hoyt Mar 2018 #115

If you want meaningful legislation on something you won't get there through ignorance of the subject EX500rider Mar 2018 #116

Thats the thing, though. A basic knowledge is sufficient. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #119

Yes, a basic knowledge is sufficient in most cases. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #295

Dont coddle gunners by trying to carve out some of their favorite lethal weapons. Just, ban Hoyt Mar 2018 #122

You work on that but I won't hold my breathe EX500rider Mar 2018 #132

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Excellent! I will shamelessly borrow from this in future discussions with gun nuts. Nitram Mar 2018 #125

Well written ! jimmyzvoice Mar 2018 #127

I am the original author Mortos Mar 2018 #170

Good post. Very well written. Captain Stern Mar 2018 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #139

"How about we ask all the people at Parkland that were killed what they think it means?" cstanleytech Mar 2018 #153

A gun... Snackshack Mar 2018 #158

And ammo ... Straw Man Mar 2018 #179

No Snackshack Mar 2018 #199

You imagine a distinction where one does not exist. Straw Man Mar 2018 #210

Everything Snackshack Mar 2018 #216

Big game hunters do not use the .223 round. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #240

How cosmic. Straw Man Mar 2018 #243

Before we go any further. Snackshack Mar 2018 #255

Your suggestions were based on erroneous information. Straw Man Mar 2018 #263

Aside from the notion. Snackshack Mar 2018 #299

It's not a "notion." Straw Man Mar 2018 #301

Having more Snackshack Mar 2018 #303

That's part of it ... Straw Man Mar 2018 #307

I certainly agree with you. Snackshack Mar 2018 #309

Cho Seung-Hui managed to kill 32 people with handgun powered ammunition, more than the MSD... Marengo Mar 2018 #180

7.56 is another size round. Snackshack Mar 2018 #196

Does this 7.56 have any other designation, a commercial name or the like? Marengo Mar 2018 #198

Not that I am aware of. Snackshack Mar 2018 #201

Did you by chance mean to type 7.62? Marengo Mar 2018 #202

Yes. Snackshack Mar 2018 #213

Do you mean 7.65mm? That would be a .30 caliber. oneshooter Mar 2018 #318

You meant "assault weapon" not assault rifle. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #181

I think he doesn't know what he meant, thus the thread discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #184

I am a veteran Mortos Mar 2018 #191

What were your dates of service? Marengo Mar 2018 #194

Are you really going to question my experience and honesty? Mortos Mar 2018 #197

As a veteran myself, Im always curious about other vets service eras, experiences, duty stations... Marengo Mar 2018 #200

It is a common tactic of gun lovers Mortos Mar 2018 #217

Thank you for your service, Mortos. And thank you for your posts here. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #234

Have a nice day as well discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2018 #246

What are the legitimate civilian uses of an AR-15 that can't be achieved... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2018 #257

There are no lower capacity rifles. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #291

If they want to have discussions on that treestar Mar 2018 #187

We don't have to know, but our lawmakers better consult experts who know IronLionZion Mar 2018 #188

Unfortunately, consulting the experts rarely ever happens. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #220

I'm hoping our leaders have learned from those mistakes IronLionZion Mar 2018 #221

I would add... MicaelS Mar 2018 #189

Rizwan Farook and Omar Mateen were white? Marengo Mar 2018 #205

We should agree with them and say OK, let's talk about all semi autos Amishman Mar 2018 #203

And as long as the "control" crowd is reaching that far... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #209

For years, the "gunner" crowd insisted there was no passion for gun control. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #235

I have never said that 'there was no passion for gun control' discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #237

This weekend will have proved absolutely nothing if it does not result in legislation. hack89 Mar 2018 #302

Your concern is duly noted. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #304

Trust me, I am not concerned hack89 Mar 2018 #305

Something has already happened. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #306

Doesn't mean things will change hack89 Mar 2018 #308

Things have already changed, and leadership is not ignoring the issue. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #310

What I see happening is UBCs, tighter background checks and maybe magazine size limits hack89 Mar 2018 #311

LOL You went from "Nothing will happen" to "UBCs" & mag size limits. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #313

They will throw you a bone while avoiding a big fight over gun control hack89 Mar 2018 #314

LOL. Man, the gunners are shitting their pants over the thought of an AWB. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #315

There will be no AWB hack89 Mar 2018 #319

You just said we would get "nothing." Then you said we'd get UBCs and mag limits. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #320

So put your cards on the table hack89 Mar 2018 #321

This isn't a card game, hack. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #322

Basic knowledge of history and politics makes prediction easy hack89 Mar 2018 #323

No one predicted these kids, hack. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #324

Until legislation is passed, no predictions have been proven wrong hack89 Mar 2018 #328

Florida already passed legislation no one predicted would pass. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #329

Minor legistation that does not take a single weapon of the street hack89 Mar 2018 #330

By that criteria, an AWB similarly "won't impact the vast majority of gun owners." SunSeeker Mar 2018 #332

Except all gun owners hate gun bans hack89 Mar 2018 #341

Wrong. 67% of Americans, including 53% of gun owners, favor an assault weapons ban. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #342

Unfortunately we don't have national referendums hack89 Mar 2018 #344

History told us we'd never have millions of people take to the streets for gun control. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #346

Millions have marched against abortion hack89 Mar 2018 #347

No, the March for Our Lives was much larger than any anti-abortion march. SunSeeker Mar 2018 #349

Time will tell but somehow I doubt it. hack89 Mar 2018 #351

Of course you doubt it. You don't want to believe it's happening. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #352

When an AWB and registration pass the US Congress hack89 Mar 2018 #353

I still think the definition is important better Mar 2018 #212

"What is an assault rifle?" Response: "Describe the female reproductive system you want to regulate" Bucky Mar 2018 #267

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