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In reply to the discussion: Why is Glen Greenwald's name popping up all over the board tonight? [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)to the gates of Hell and back until they do.
By not making his fakest positions serious policy and taking away his figleaf of seperation from Louir Gohmert we do a disservice to what we are, who we aspire to be, and inflict great harm that undermines many of the principles that lead so many of us to be liberals, progressives, and Democrats.
People are reasonably angery and dissappointed that on Civil Liberties, foreign wars, and the absurdly toxic "War on Drugs" that only a lying old bigot with a head full of delusions about an economic theory that was stillborn and unworkable at the time of this nation's founding 240 or so years ago has any sort of platform that reaches a national audience has the audacity to even give lip service.
I also think that discerning fake positions from true are very difficult, I didn't know Obama's position on mandates or taxing benefits were fake but they were, they were only espoused to seperate from Clinton and the McShame, without those fake positions Obama is in the Senate or maybe Clinton's SoS. I discussed such fake positions at length and used them to sell other voters.
What I wish to push and have pushed, independently of Paul are these issues, it makes no difference to me that they are fake, like Edward's fake push on poverty. The position was phony but sure as hell needs to be seriously and constantly discussed.
What I truly don't get is the resistence to the party filling this vacuum, there would be no conversation about Paul if our candidate was leading in these very contentious issues. Instead our Senators are writing unconstitutional detention bills, military spending increases, and our DoJ is busting medical marijuana aka doing the exact opposite of working for the benefit of the people.
This isn't about Paul, he is a strawman to beat up. This is about being horrible on these positions and absolutely refusing to change course or even discuss changing course. Preferring to focus on transitory personalities than the actual meat of the issues.
What position that isn't fake is the Democratic party dedication to perpetuating ruinous and anti-American policies and pursuing any possible distraction to avoid the subject. The party's official and vividly real position is pro-drug war, pro-imperialist intervention, pro-resource war, and decidedly anti-civil liberties so let's talk about those REAL as a heart attack positions and forget the old delusional bigot but I know it is preferable to stick to personalities and avoid ideas. Ideas are dangerous.