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52. In which case, what is the political benefit of NOT convicting Trump after he's impeached?

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Mon Mar 26, 2018, 06:09 AM

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NO Mr. Carter NO! Has Jimmy lost his mind? [View all] BigOleDummy Mar 2018 OP

sigh....the first person I voted for for president. dameatball Mar 2018 #1

Me, too MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #5

Same here. I was 18--almost 19--when the November 1980 election cane around, and... Different Drummer Mar 2018 #6

I was 21 in 1980 - 1st presidential election MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #16

1976 For Me ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #56

Same for me PJMcK Mar 2018 #104

Very Close To My History ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #106

Agreed. Let's not play "what if" when the guy is a disaster. Get him out. dameatball Mar 2018 #11

Not impeaching Trump will just embolden the GOP again: chuckstevens Mar 2018 #2

Carter is a very forgiving Christian man TexasBushwhacker Mar 2018 #3

Great great point! quartz007 Mar 2018 #4

Ryan's neck deep in this too....... BigOleDummy Mar 2018 #10

Even if you're right MichMary Mar 2018 #64

Some of us think that the Mueller investigation will extend way beyond just Trump. dameatball Mar 2018 #8

There will be zero impeachment unless the Dems retake congress. Then Ryan is not an issue stevenleser Mar 2018 #21

A real question...not a trap... Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #61

I suppose it depends on the person TexasBushwhacker Mar 2018 #70

If both go down and we regain the house this fall hueymahl Mar 2018 #80

THANK YOU! This is why I haven't jumped on the Impeachment Train EffieBlack Mar 2018 #93

Yes. This is in character. LWolf Mar 2018 #105

If Democrats take back the congress they need to impeach Trump period standingtall Mar 2018 #7

So, you want Trump acquitted? brooklynite Mar 2018 #40

Demorats should make republicans walk the plank and force a vote in the Senate standingtall Mar 2018 #41

Refusing to impeach is the equivalent to refusing to indict until you have a solid case... brooklynite Mar 2018 #48

No it is not impeachment is a political tool standingtall Mar 2018 #49

In which case, what is the political benefit of NOT convicting Trump after he's impeached? brooklynite Mar 2018 #52

Something Like The 2000 Election? ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #62

Clinton was probably MORE popular after the impeachment fiasco than before... brooklynite Mar 2018 #63

That's What I Said ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #67

But we're NOT agreeing that this would be a rational reason to impeach Trump brooklynite Mar 2018 #69

There has never been a succesful conviction of an impeached President in our history standingtall Mar 2018 #78

There is not benefit. And it will surely bring out Republicans in droves. I think Pres. Carter's Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #86

I'm giving Carter the benefit of the doubt ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #9

To late for that standingtall Mar 2018 #12

But just how much .... BigOleDummy Mar 2018 #14

Ok, ok, I may be trying to cobble together an excuse for Carter ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #19

I think people are reading more into what Carter said than he actually said. pnwmom Mar 2018 #24

Yes, MSNBC's framing is problematic ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #36

Agree, only "benefit of the doubt " is a problem grantcart Mar 2018 #42

That's just Jimmy Carter being his usual kind self. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #44

This is the same problem Pres. Carter had while in office, He was to good and kind of a man...... Old Vet Mar 2018 #13

Impeachment doesn't fix anything, unless we have the House AND nail Pence concurrently Tarc Mar 2018 #15

Does not matter if Pence relaces him once we have the house standingtall Mar 2018 #17

I don't think you should impeach without conviction...it could turn out voters who sympathize with Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #25

Wisconsin was a recall not an impeachment standingtall Mar 2018 #43

There is no difference for voters...and yes Trump is in the 30's...but impeachment might generate Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #57

No President who has been impeached has ever been standingtall Mar 2018 #74

There were only two president's impeached ...and Trump could win if you make him sympathetic...what Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #83

Trump will not find much smypathy once it is announced that he his campaign standingtall Mar 2018 #96

I just don't see the point without conviction. Prosecutors won't prosecute people if they Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #101

And what if we lose the next election because of this? Americans don't like impeachement without Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #30

How do you know Americans dont like impeachments wthout convictions not a very big sample standingtall Mar 2018 #46

History...the Republicans lost big after Bill Clinton...Scott Walker became more popular Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #55

Republicans won the following Presidential election standingtall Mar 2018 #75

Republicans lost seats in the House. First time the party not of the president's party had failed to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #82

The impeachment process for Clinton was iniated in December of 98 standingtall Mar 2018 #110

Nope...that is when it became official they voted for it in October. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #111

Jimmy has been a burr under every saddle UTUSN Mar 2018 #18

There are few Carter wont help. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #20

Exactly HopeAgain Mar 2018 #77

We trash Democrats for being too "Establishment" and then we bash them when they go against the grai EffieBlack Mar 2018 #94

Carter has little love for the Democratic Party as he felt he was mistreated. This is not the first Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #22

So we throw Bernie and Jimmy under the bus? dembotoz Mar 2018 #27

Neither of them like the Democratic Party...but I merely noted that Carter is not always on our side Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #31

Hmmmm so a former dem POTUS is not on the Dems side? dembotoz Mar 2018 #37

No, he has been a thorn in the side of every Democratic president...he interferes in Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #58

well i guess i will take the word of jimmy over yours dembotoz Mar 2018 #65

I don't care. I can read and I was alive for some of it. I don't think he is that great myself. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #71

To take this further might prompt an alert dembotoz Mar 2018 #72

I have no hard feelings about our conversation and I admire his work with habitat...but politics Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #85

It would be my response to your post that would not be pleasant dembotoz Mar 2018 #99

Oh...haha I don't alert for that stuff. I enjoy a free exchange...but I suppose someone else could Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #100

i have been alerted on things that were like really? dembotoz Mar 2018 #109

Have you ever tried to appeal? I have seen nothing in your posts worthy of an alert. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #112

Carter is Carter mountain grammy Mar 2018 #23

Me too Raine Mar 2018 #50

He's Old... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #26

Old age does not mean loss of mind. Tipperary Mar 2018 #53

In This Case... LovingA2andMI Mar 2018 #66

he never sees the evil in men.. that was his downfall..but why I love him samnsara Mar 2018 #28

He never has, IMO. Blue_true Mar 2018 #84

He's a good man.... but this is why he wasn't a great President. Adrahil Mar 2018 #29

Did I read it correctly ? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #32

Carter is a Gandhi-esque type of person as far as peace and diplomacy are concerned. If you recall, stevenleser Mar 2018 #33

I think the bar to impeach or ruin an administration should be very high, but trump crossed Hoyt Mar 2018 #34

No way. There is a treasonous criminal giving away national secrets in the WH. NO. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #35

I gotta... Snackshack Mar 2018 #38

Man, this whole thread is like a Fantisy Island episode. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #39

That's "Fantasy" island. And most of what you wrote is wrong. stevenleser Mar 2018 #47

Very similar to the demand for single payer treestar Mar 2018 #59

I get some of your point. Blue_true Mar 2018 #87

I was not going to respond to anything about this thread. GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #88

Controlling the House and Senate, even with small majorities Blue_true Mar 2018 #89

I agree GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #90

That is my fear also. I feel some are already practicing that line. Blue_true Mar 2018 #92

Exactly. We're letting a thirst for revenge overcome political reality EffieBlack Mar 2018 #95

Fwiw, "President Carter". shanny Mar 2018 #45

Please don't joke like that greymattermom Mar 2018 #51

Somehow he sees the goodness in everyone . . . but this is a bridge too far. Vinca Mar 2018 #54

"he wants to do a good job" Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #60

omg.. how could Jimmy Carter know Cha Mar 2018 #102

+1 Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #113

Jimmy Carter is a thoughtful man. DU stopped being a thoughtful place Ron Green Mar 2018 #68

He's a true statesman loyalsister Mar 2018 #97

I think that Trump certainly deserves to be impeached, but stranger81 Mar 2018 #73

I don't want him impeached either. If we kick him out, we get Pence. Lisa0825 Mar 2018 #76

I just barfed in my heart. Again. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #79

Not the first time in his post-presidency marybourg Mar 2018 #81

He's more than earned his right to speak his mind and have an opinion we may not agree with EffieBlack Mar 2018 #91

Or maybe even worth considering his point oberliner Mar 2018 #98

Hello ... EffieBlack Mar 2018 #103

Sure, I would rather... BigOleDummy Mar 2018 #107

It should always be preferable that a malign incompetent straighten up... Orsino Mar 2018 #108