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brewens

(15,359 posts) Mon Mar 26, 2018, 08:43 PM Mar 2018

Could they have gotten their AR-15 had the 1994 assault weapons ban still been in effect? [View all]

That's a bit of research I haven't seen. Maybe it's been looked at and I missed it.

Of course including any of the similar weapons one of these shooters, school or otherwise may have used.

If they used some other type gun that would have been legal under the ban, everyone would have at least had a better chance. It could be they wouldn't even do it if they didn't have their badassed assault rifle.

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Could they have gotten their AR-15 had the 1994 assault weapons ban still been in effect? [View all] brewens Mar 2018 OP

How many AR-15's are out there already? quartz007 Mar 2018 #1

Guards are better than arming teachers. Might as well start banning these type weapons even if it Hoyt Mar 2018 #3

Banning alone will not solve the problem quartz007 Mar 2018 #18

Agree. I think most gunners will turn them in if they lose rights to own any guns, including Hoyt Mar 2018 #24

AR-15s style weapons were never banned Abnredleg Mar 2018 #6

No, the law did ban a number of AR-15 type weapons. pnwmom Mar 2018 #9

No, it banned certain features. One could take a potentially banned item.. and make it not. X_Digger Mar 2018 #12

And gunners did that to circumvent intent of legislation. Need to make sure gunners Hoyt Mar 2018 #25

You mean they complied with the law? Fancy that. X_Digger Mar 2018 #31

No they circumvented the intent of the law. Yes, many laws are interpreted on "intent." Hoyt Mar 2018 #36

No, not really, that's not a normal way to interpret laws. Flaksie845 Mar 2018 #38

So what was the "intent" of the law? Straw Man Mar 2018 #47

No, they complied with the law. There's no 'sorta, kinda' in following the law. X_Digger Mar 2018 #59

Appreciate your gunner's opinion on the matter. Hoyt Mar 2018 #66

So Hoyt, is going 54 miles an hour ignoring the 'intent' of speed limits? X_Digger Mar 2018 #67

Honestly, XDigger, with all the guns you have and the time you spend with them, I think Hoyt Mar 2018 #71

So, no answer? That's what I'd expect from a former robber.. X_Digger Mar 2018 #72

I'm rather sure that "circumventing the intent of the legislator writing the law"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #73

Gun manufacturers simply removed the objectionable cosmetic items from ... spin Mar 2018 #80

They certainly were banned along with AK47s-see link below flotsam Mar 2018 #56

No, it banned certain features. One could take a potentially banned item.. and make it not. X_Digger Mar 2018 #61

They are everywhere and easy to acquire. apnu Mar 2018 #40

AR 15 seems to fit the definition of banned weapons tirebiter Mar 2018 #2

Lawmakers are getting better at drafting legislation Abnredleg Mar 2018 #5

Right. Most AR-15 style weapons were banned under the law. pnwmom Mar 2018 #10

No. The Sandy Hook shooters rifle was legal during the AWB hack89 Mar 2018 #39

So? I don't know about that particular rifle, but MOST AR-15 style weapons were banned -- pnwmom Mar 2018 #41

It was an AR-15 hack89 Mar 2018 #42

Possession was grandfathered flotsam Mar 2018 #57

New ones were created that didn't meet the definition of an 'assault weapon'. X_Digger Mar 2018 #63

No. Google AWB compliant rifles hack89 Mar 2018 #69

So dealers removed the 'features' and made them 'ban compliant'. n/t X_Digger Mar 2018 #13

yeah but they didn't sell so well without those pistol grips-go figure tirebiter Mar 2018 #23

See my post below- they sold better during the ban than before. n/t X_Digger Mar 2018 #30

Mass shootings went down and have increased again since the ban expired. nt pnwmom Mar 2018 #43

Attaching statistical significance to a rare event with wide variation is not sound math. X_Digger Mar 2018 #60

That isn't true. There were fewer mass shootings during the ban than before or afterwards. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #64

It's quite true. Check Mother Jones' database of mass shootings. X_Digger Mar 2018 #65

George Tirebiter, is that you? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #55

Yes Abnredleg Mar 2018 #4

So just ban Chuuku Davis Mar 2018 #8

I am a big fan of gun control GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #19

They can't even find the 10 most wanted quartz007 Mar 2018 #20

Short answer: yes. Adrahil Mar 2018 #7

Yes. It would have had a pinned stock, and had the bayonet lug ground down. X_Digger Mar 2018 #11

Why did you post a graph, trending down, that ended three years before the law expired? pnwmom Mar 2018 #14

Because those who wanted them were able to acquire them? Add the numbers to the left v the right. X_Digger Mar 2018 #15

If the numbers have only gone up since the ban ended, that would suggest the ban helped. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #16

The ban helped make them popular. Compare 1989 to 1999. X_Digger Mar 2018 #17

Yap, ganja is cool because it is banned! quartz007 Mar 2018 #21

Yes. I bought my first new AR15 legally during the ban. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #22

Did you get that magazine conveniently, just like buying a stock AR with one now? brewens Mar 2018 #29

They were always available at every gun show and online, but for higher prices. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #62

Who cares, for the greater good of society and the value of individual lives, ban all guns. Canoe52 Mar 2018 #26

You mean banned like in Jamaica or Mexico where they have 4 to 10x's the homicides? EX500rider Mar 2018 #46

Wow, first time Ive heard that argument on this side of the aisle! Canoe52 Mar 2018 #48

Nothing untrue about it. EX500rider Mar 2018 #49

Nothing, you win the argument! Ding ding ding, give that person a Kewpie Doll! Canoe52 Mar 2018 #50

Awesome rebuttal....I'd want my debate club money back. EX500rider Mar 2018 #54

Dont stop now! But I want a cut of what you are making off this. Canoe52 Mar 2018 #58

I don't make anything pointing out obvious facts.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #77

Keep Your Assault Rifles - You Just Can't Take Them Out Of Your House PaulX2 Mar 2018 #27

How do you think that will make a dent in gun deaths? Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #35

The Vegas Shooter Would Pass All Background Checks - Period PaulX2 Mar 2018 #28

The Parkland shooter had his AR-15 at home! quartz007 Mar 2018 #44

Or kill yourself, for that matter Nevernose Mar 2018 #52

"that people without guns usually don't just find another way to do it." EX500rider Mar 2018 #78

No they couldn't. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #32

Totally wrong. See my response below. Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #34

Yes. People who say otherwise dont understand the law Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #33

Under the assault weapon ban specific guns including the AR- 15 were banned... now Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #45

From this lawyer's perspective: ABSOLUTELY Flaksie845 Mar 2018 #37

You heroin analogy is very good DBoon Mar 2018 #51

This why technical knowledge of guns is not esoteric bullshit. Adrahil Mar 2018 #53

welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2018 #75

If grenades were legal, the NRA would say well you could still kill with an AR15 instead rickford66 Mar 2018 #68

"Their" "AR-15" GaryCnf Mar 2018 #70

The AWB banned the name "AR-15" but not the gun itself. Kaleva Mar 2018 #74

probably not gopiscrap Mar 2018 #76

Yes...the rifle was legal..cosmetics were made illegal AncientGeezer Mar 2018 #79