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pnwmom

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9. No, the law did ban a number of AR-15 type weapons.

Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:22 PM

Mar 2018

And "everyone" did not perceive it to be worthless. The problem was that Bush was President in 2004 and the GOP refused to renew the law.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ar-15-semi-automatic-history-why-used-mass-shootings-2018-2#but-us-civilians-rarely-purchased-semi-automatic-weapons-until-the-1989-school-shooting-in-stockton-california-which-killed-five-people-and-wounded-29-more-4

In 1994, Congress passed the federal assault weapons ban, which lasted for 10 years and included a number of AR-15 models.

The 1994 assault weapons ban, however, was complicated. It banned 18 kinds of firearms, such as certain AK-47 and AR-15 models, but it didn't ban all semiautomatic weapons.

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Could they have gotten their AR-15 had the 1994 assault weapons ban still been in effect? [View all] brewens Mar 2018 OP

How many AR-15's are out there already? quartz007 Mar 2018 #1

Guards are better than arming teachers. Might as well start banning these type weapons even if it Hoyt Mar 2018 #3

Banning alone will not solve the problem quartz007 Mar 2018 #18

Agree. I think most gunners will turn them in if they lose rights to own any guns, including Hoyt Mar 2018 #24

AR-15s style weapons were never banned Abnredleg Mar 2018 #6

No, the law did ban a number of AR-15 type weapons. pnwmom Mar 2018 #9

No, it banned certain features. One could take a potentially banned item.. and make it not. X_Digger Mar 2018 #12

And gunners did that to circumvent intent of legislation. Need to make sure gunners Hoyt Mar 2018 #25

You mean they complied with the law? Fancy that. X_Digger Mar 2018 #31

No they circumvented the intent of the law. Yes, many laws are interpreted on "intent." Hoyt Mar 2018 #36

No, not really, that's not a normal way to interpret laws. Flaksie845 Mar 2018 #38

So what was the "intent" of the law? Straw Man Mar 2018 #47

No, they complied with the law. There's no 'sorta, kinda' in following the law. X_Digger Mar 2018 #59

Appreciate your gunner's opinion on the matter. Hoyt Mar 2018 #66

So Hoyt, is going 54 miles an hour ignoring the 'intent' of speed limits? X_Digger Mar 2018 #67

Honestly, XDigger, with all the guns you have and the time you spend with them, I think Hoyt Mar 2018 #71

So, no answer? That's what I'd expect from a former robber.. X_Digger Mar 2018 #72

I'm rather sure that "circumventing the intent of the legislator writing the law"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2018 #73

Gun manufacturers simply removed the objectionable cosmetic items from ... spin Mar 2018 #80

They certainly were banned along with AK47s-see link below flotsam Mar 2018 #56

No, it banned certain features. One could take a potentially banned item.. and make it not. X_Digger Mar 2018 #61

They are everywhere and easy to acquire. apnu Mar 2018 #40

AR 15 seems to fit the definition of banned weapons tirebiter Mar 2018 #2

Lawmakers are getting better at drafting legislation Abnredleg Mar 2018 #5

Right. Most AR-15 style weapons were banned under the law. pnwmom Mar 2018 #10

No. The Sandy Hook shooters rifle was legal during the AWB hack89 Mar 2018 #39

So? I don't know about that particular rifle, but MOST AR-15 style weapons were banned -- pnwmom Mar 2018 #41

It was an AR-15 hack89 Mar 2018 #42

Possession was grandfathered flotsam Mar 2018 #57

New ones were created that didn't meet the definition of an 'assault weapon'. X_Digger Mar 2018 #63

No. Google AWB compliant rifles hack89 Mar 2018 #69

So dealers removed the 'features' and made them 'ban compliant'. n/t X_Digger Mar 2018 #13

yeah but they didn't sell so well without those pistol grips-go figure tirebiter Mar 2018 #23

See my post below- they sold better during the ban than before. n/t X_Digger Mar 2018 #30

Mass shootings went down and have increased again since the ban expired. nt pnwmom Mar 2018 #43

Attaching statistical significance to a rare event with wide variation is not sound math. X_Digger Mar 2018 #60

That isn't true. There were fewer mass shootings during the ban than before or afterwards. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #64

It's quite true. Check Mother Jones' database of mass shootings. X_Digger Mar 2018 #65

George Tirebiter, is that you? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #55

Yes Abnredleg Mar 2018 #4

So just ban Chuuku Davis Mar 2018 #8

I am a big fan of gun control GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #19

They can't even find the 10 most wanted quartz007 Mar 2018 #20

Short answer: yes. Adrahil Mar 2018 #7

Yes. It would have had a pinned stock, and had the bayonet lug ground down. X_Digger Mar 2018 #11

Why did you post a graph, trending down, that ended three years before the law expired? pnwmom Mar 2018 #14

Because those who wanted them were able to acquire them? Add the numbers to the left v the right. X_Digger Mar 2018 #15

If the numbers have only gone up since the ban ended, that would suggest the ban helped. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #16

The ban helped make them popular. Compare 1989 to 1999. X_Digger Mar 2018 #17

Yap, ganja is cool because it is banned! quartz007 Mar 2018 #21

Yes. I bought my first new AR15 legally during the ban. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #22

Did you get that magazine conveniently, just like buying a stock AR with one now? brewens Mar 2018 #29

They were always available at every gun show and online, but for higher prices. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #62

Who cares, for the greater good of society and the value of individual lives, ban all guns. Canoe52 Mar 2018 #26

You mean banned like in Jamaica or Mexico where they have 4 to 10x's the homicides? EX500rider Mar 2018 #46

Wow, first time Ive heard that argument on this side of the aisle! Canoe52 Mar 2018 #48

Nothing untrue about it. EX500rider Mar 2018 #49

Nothing, you win the argument! Ding ding ding, give that person a Kewpie Doll! Canoe52 Mar 2018 #50

Awesome rebuttal....I'd want my debate club money back. EX500rider Mar 2018 #54

Dont stop now! But I want a cut of what you are making off this. Canoe52 Mar 2018 #58

I don't make anything pointing out obvious facts.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #77

Keep Your Assault Rifles - You Just Can't Take Them Out Of Your House PaulX2 Mar 2018 #27

How do you think that will make a dent in gun deaths? Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #35

The Vegas Shooter Would Pass All Background Checks - Period PaulX2 Mar 2018 #28

The Parkland shooter had his AR-15 at home! quartz007 Mar 2018 #44

Or kill yourself, for that matter Nevernose Mar 2018 #52

"that people without guns usually don't just find another way to do it." EX500rider Mar 2018 #78

No they couldn't. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #32

Totally wrong. See my response below. Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #34

Yes. People who say otherwise dont understand the law Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #33

Under the assault weapon ban specific guns including the AR- 15 were banned... now Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #45

From this lawyer's perspective: ABSOLUTELY Flaksie845 Mar 2018 #37

You heroin analogy is very good DBoon Mar 2018 #51

This why technical knowledge of guns is not esoteric bullshit. Adrahil Mar 2018 #53

welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2018 #75

If grenades were legal, the NRA would say well you could still kill with an AR15 instead rickford66 Mar 2018 #68

"Their" "AR-15" GaryCnf Mar 2018 #70

The AWB banned the name "AR-15" but not the gun itself. Kaleva Mar 2018 #74

probably not gopiscrap Mar 2018 #76

Yes...the rifle was legal..cosmetics were made illegal AncientGeezer Mar 2018 #79