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71. It still seems crazy that I pay extra on my insurance because of a dog but a gun hanging around...

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Wed Mar 28, 2018, 09:03 PM

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In the USA, gun manufacturers and dealers must be held financially responsible [View all] coti Mar 2018 OP

require liability insurance for ever gu. does not infringe on the 2A. anybody can still get a gun msongs Mar 2018 #1

Liability insurance never covers illegal acts. EX500rider Mar 2018 #5

It still seems crazy that I pay extra on my insurance because of a dog but a gun hanging around... Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #71

Because this: EX500rider Mar 2018 #78

NRA would love that fescuerescue Mar 2018 #65

absolutely, like tabaco industry, manufacturers are liable AlexSFCA Mar 2018 #2

Good idea which is why the NRA Progressive dog Mar 2018 #3

"the kind of liability suits that have targeted many other consumer product manufacturers" EX500rider Mar 2018 #6

When a law is written to create an exemption Progressive dog Mar 2018 #7

yes there was a reason EX500rider Mar 2018 #8

So the killing continues, the gun companies and Progressive dog Mar 2018 #10

The 2nd does have limits. EX500rider Mar 2018 #13

Which is exactly what the OP asks for Progressive dog Mar 2018 #17

No, the OP is asking for the power to sue companies for things out of their power to prevent. EX500rider Mar 2018 #20

It is NOT out of their power to not create powerful killing machines. coti Mar 2018 #23

The bottom line is as long as it is legal and there is a demand.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #24

Other companies can be sued for the same things Progressive dog Mar 2018 #31

Ford adds government mandated safety features. EX500rider Mar 2018 #32

What bullshit, gun companies Progressive dog Mar 2018 #35

Not out of their power to prevent. Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #51

If firearms are legal to purchase and they are.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #54

Sorry. I'm done with people making excuses for child sacrifice. Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #55

Yes, that's what I am for "child sacrifice"...lol...good one EX500rider Mar 2018 #56

Yup. Had enough of it. Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #57

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Isn't shooting people the intended use of an AR-15? coti Mar 2018 #9

No, most people you will find buy them for target shooting or investment.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #11

I would imagine 99% of US Marines, similarly, have not used their M-16 to kill anyone. coti Mar 2018 #16

The Marines are issued M-16's (actually M-4's) in case they have to kill someone. EX500rider Mar 2018 #22

Self-defense, i.e., killing someone. That's the purpose. coti Mar 2018 #25

Actually hunting firearms are more powerful. EX500rider Mar 2018 #27

I'm not advocating for anything backdoor, I think they should be held explicitly responsible through coti Mar 2018 #33

Gun manufactures are liable for dangerous defects in production like any other company. EX500rider Mar 2018 #34

As a reasonably intelligent person, you must be aware that this is not an honest argument. coti Mar 2018 #39

Reasonable intelligence. Straw Man Mar 2018 #58

Dram shop. coti Mar 2018 #61

How is that applicable to gun manufacturers? hardluck Mar 2018 #62

Dram shop law applies to the server of alcohol, not the manufacturer. Straw Man Mar 2018 #63

The point is that the "I didn't do it myself, I only enabled it" argument doesn't always matter, and coti Mar 2018 #67

Dram shop law is not about product liability. Straw Man Mar 2018 #68

They could make guns safer mythology Mar 2018 #14

Car makers install safety devices due to govt mandates. EX500rider Mar 2018 #15

Safer? Straw Man Mar 2018 #59

Im fine with the PLCAA because it protects aikoaiko Mar 2018 #4

Really, it just protects the manufacturers of products that are genuinely made for the purpose coti Mar 2018 #12

Actually, it is highly unlikely that any given firearm will be used to kill people. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #18

They're putting these products into the civilian population and need to be held responsible for that coti Mar 2018 #21

Gun manufactures sell guns to gun dealers. EX500rider Mar 2018 #19

The right to human sacrifice. Crunchy Frog Mar 2018 #52

Not really a right. But carry on. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #53

The problem with PLCAA is that it allows gun marketeers to market their guns to sick people in the Hoyt Mar 2018 #26

Whats your issue with the last ad, the Barrett ad? EX500rider Mar 2018 #30

I was trying to get the "Hell or Highwater" ad that was aimed at you guys who worship these rifles, Hoyt Mar 2018 #41

Since Barrett .50cals are rarely if ever used in homicides it doesn't bother me. EX500rider Mar 2018 #43

A year or so, the common refrain from the Gungeon was so-called "assault rifles" were seldom used Hoyt Mar 2018 #44

Actually rifles are very seldom used in homicides...no BS there. EX500rider Mar 2018 #46

Tell to those kids who have the guts to walk among millions without a gun tucked in their pants. Hoyt Mar 2018 #47

Tell them simple facts? sure... EX500rider Mar 2018 #48

The Idea that Gun Manufactures Should Ever be Immune from Liability Litigation is Beyond Corrupt! dlk Mar 2018 #28

Gun manufacturers are not immune to liability litigation, AzureCrest Mar 2018 #38

But they should be because they contribute to the problem and have spent millions associating guns Hoyt Mar 2018 #42

Yes yes yes yes yes. Worked for tobacco. For asbestos. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #29

Gun owners must be required to purchase quartz007 Mar 2018 #36

Insurance does not cover illegal acts. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #64

Point is, gun purchases will be registered quartz007 Mar 2018 #66

Adam Lanza's weapon was registered. hack89 Mar 2018 #69

He probably did his shooting in a quartz007 Mar 2018 #70

But how does registration stop gun violence? hack89 Mar 2018 #72

Correct, EXISTING guns in criminal hands quartz007 Mar 2018 #73

Actually the supreme court has ruled that felons cannot be forced to register hack89 Mar 2018 #74

2nd Amendment in existence quartz007 Mar 2018 #75

Why not skip registration and simply hammer people for gun crimes? hack89 Mar 2018 #76

Simple quartz007 Mar 2018 #77

So will you be using the war on drugs as your model? hack89 Mar 2018 #79

Simple again... quartz007 Mar 2018 #80

"Protect the borders with...a tall fence." Now where have we heard that before? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2018 #83

Israel built one quartz007 Mar 2018 #84

The NRA supports gun ownership for all because it benefits gun manufacturers. LiberalFighter Mar 2018 #37

I've read some disputes/debates on gun studies Jarqui Mar 2018 #40

Parents should be criminally charged HockeyMom Mar 2018 #45

Largely agreed, California does have some laws along these lines, protecting kids coti Mar 2018 #49

Congress more interested in regulating sex, not guns. OneBro Mar 2018 #50

What, exactly, would you like to see changed Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #81

So you would sue Ford... tonedevil Mar 2018 #82